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In reply to the discussion: "America Has a Long and Storied Socialist Tradition. DSA Is Reviving It." [View all]You are forgetting the 'Democratic' part of Democratic Socialist.
Our Constitution basically describes a social democracy.
The Preamble:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
And
Article I, Section. 8.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention a 'market', 'market economy', or even a 'free market'. Except:
Also in Article I Section 8
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
In my opinion, a Democratic Socialist believes in a Social Democracy. A Social Democracy establishes "...Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity'.
Also, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
In summary, our Constitution, a Social Democracy is primarily to see to the needs of the People first. Everything else stems from this.
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"America Has a Long and Storied Socialist Tradition. DSA Is Reviving It." [View all]
Trial_By_Fire
Aug 2017
OP
Yes, but we also have a long and ugly tradition of Americans hating and fearing socialism
DavidDvorkin
Aug 2017
#3
In 1935 the top rate was 63% and 33% on Capital Gains. They're about 40% and 20% now.
George II
Aug 2017
#79
Tell me again why you guys are using DU for this venture? DU...whose rules are very straightforward.
Tarheel_Dem
Aug 2017
#111
Do you believe that proselytization and taking over a party that you claim should reflect
Ninsianna
Aug 2017
#37
Maybe an understanding of the term would fend of further ignorance of anybody who uses it
Tiggeroshii
Aug 2017
#41
But he didn't correct my spelling, he just proved that he couldn't figure out what
Ninsianna
Aug 2017
#104
Many has been a time that I left out a vowel or two in order to keep my post within the title.
George II
Aug 2017
#110
I was just typing fast and have become way too reliant on that wavy little line under
Ninsianna
Aug 2017
#115
Then why do so many people think theirs is worth more and that the rest of us
Ninsianna
Aug 2017
#114
The New Deal was the product of an unprecedented series of events from the 1920s to 1932.
George II
Aug 2017
#77
If the socialists have so much support and so many thousands, why don't they form their own party?..
socialist_n_TN
Aug 2017
#23
Actually, most of the socialist left doesn't want a "socialist" party..........
socialist_n_TN
Aug 2017
#123
Democratic socialism is giving workers more control of the means of production (ie unions)
Tiggeroshii
Aug 2017
#26
You seem to be a little confused here. Democratic socialism at a concept is not
Ninsianna
Aug 2017
#42
It is is clear you aren't interested in a meaningful debate at the moment.
Tiggeroshii
Aug 2017
#101
What's clear is that meanignful debate is not your intent, or you'd try to stay on topic
Ninsianna
Aug 2017
#103
Prolly* because there was no free Ben & Jerry ice cream in the lobby. (*probably)
George II
Aug 2017
#113
Perhaps the DSA could run their own candidates and show us how popular they are...
brooklynite
Aug 2017
#108
"Right to a decent job"...How is "decent" defined in this context, who defines "decent"? The state?
Marengo
Aug 2017
#13
I'm a DSA member and I hope to see the org grow even more in the coming years.
DemocraticWing
Aug 2017
#14
If you're actually having a hard time figuring out what typo that left out a single letter means,
Ninsianna
Aug 2017
#62
It must be frustrating to equate two different political parties from two different nations
LanternWaste
Aug 2017
#32
And if you're talking about the US vs. Denmark, two totally different economies, two totally..
George II
Aug 2017
#84
Yes the intentional conflation of the term and the topic under discussion sure is confusing.
Ninsianna
Aug 2017
#45
Excuse me, but you must have mistaken me for somebody who doesn't know the definition of
Foamfollower
Aug 2017
#66
I'd say many Americans are rightfully fearful of words whose meanings they understand precisely well
Expecting Rain
Aug 2017
#56
Democratic Socialism is what the Constitution of the USA also describes...
Trial_By_Fire
Aug 2017
#57
If DSA ever gained actual power, I would fight against them to my dying breath.
Foamfollower
Aug 2017
#112
Denmark is a tiny country, smaller than 41 of the 50 United States, with GDP about....
George II
Aug 2017
#73
And yet Denmark is repeatedly put up as the model of "Democratic Socialism" by...
George II
Aug 2017
#88
The Constitution also doesn't mention 'social', 'socialism' or even 'democracy'
NobodyHere
Aug 2017
#116
For younger folks, here are the names of some good people in the U.S. socialist tradition:
Ken Burch
Aug 2017
#82
I do not find "socialism" or "capitalism" to be useful distinctions at times.
David__77
Aug 2017
#120