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In reply to the discussion: Glenn Greenwald: What the Supreme Court got right (Flashback) [View all]joshcryer
(62,269 posts)23. I don't see how, they make better progress in lobbying.
And lobbying is still handled under the same rules.
Top PACs? Unions: http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php?order=A
Top donors? Unions: http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
Top 527s? Unions: http://www.opensecrets.org/527s/527cmtes.php?level=C
Lobbying completely obliterates everything: http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/index.php
A breakdown between who lobbies the most is a difficult task (I wish OpenSecrets had that but I can't find it). Generally both Democrats and Republicans are lobbied effectively as much.
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Well, if you are going to restrict the rights of corps. Then you are saying that
Luminous Animal
Dec 2011
#18
What about the ACLU, NOW, Planned Parenthood, the Sierra Club and a host of other
Luminous Animal
Dec 2011
#26
Are you really arguing that it's either Citizens United or no advocacy at all?
killbotfactory
Dec 2011
#29
Actually, that was precisely the issue at hand and that is why the ACLU
Luminous Animal
Dec 2011
#30
It is not the lobbying rules that were changed, it was much greater than that...
Spazito
Dec 2011
#25
I did go to the links you provided, I hope you also went to the one I provided...
Spazito
Dec 2011
#37
And when you shut down Citizens United you also shut down Planned Parenthood.
Luminous Animal
Dec 2011
#36
The status quo was restricted speech for advocacy. The decision handed unions, Planned Parenthood
Luminous Animal
Dec 2011
#42
The support by Greenwald, the ACLU, Eliot Spitzer, and others was not unconditional.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2011
#50
It is readily apparent that Greenwald has no legal training. His arguments are based
Romulox
Dec 2011
#59