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MarianJack

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8. Statehood for DC AND...

Mon Jul 17, 2017, 07:14 AM

Jul 2017

...Puerto Rico, too. In the interest of full disclosure, my wife is Puerto Rican.

Like that'll happen with Republicans/teabaggers in control of government!

PEACE!

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You want Democratic messaging? You got it. [View all] ehrnst Jul 2017 OP

That's not a message sweetroxie Jul 2017 #1

"Remember the Maine!" ? Achilleaze Jul 2017 #2

Demfefe ? OnDoutside Jul 2017 #5

Those are the topics of messaging. And if people can't be bothered to read a very clear list ehrnst Jul 2017 #3

"Especially if they claim that the platform was 'moved to the left' then diss it as saying nothing." betsuni Jul 2017 #14

Exactly. nt SunSeeker Jul 2017 #69

+1 Hekate Jul 2017 #68

+1000 nt iluvtennis Jul 2017 #111

From the platform: ehrnst Jul 2017 #4

I like that, especially the bridges v walls part. brush Jul 2017 #6

That's just a bunch of platitudes marylandblue Jul 2017 #7

First and foremost, we need LEADERSHIP... preferably with ATTITUDES, not platitudes. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #16

You mean leadership that thinks our platform is just a bunch of platitudes? ehrnst Jul 2017 #23

Support of social and economic justice for all Americans are just 'platitudes?" ehrnst Jul 2017 #22

It doesn't say the words "social and economic justice" marylandblue Jul 2017 #34

Perhaps you missed these items: ehrnst Jul 2017 #40

All mission statements sound that way, because BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2017 #114

Great classykaren Jul 2017 #10

+1,000,000 Auggie Jul 2017 #27

So you think 'Make America Great Again is a message? Doesn''t tell me sinkingfeeling Jul 2017 #31

It doesn't tell YOU anything, but it tells the Trump(R) voter a ton of things. It tells him Squinch Jul 2017 #44

and it fits easily on a hat 0rganism Jul 2017 #60

You may be making a joke, but I think you are absolutely right. It should fit on a hat. It's not a Squinch Jul 2017 #77

no joke there 0rganism Jul 2017 #108

Exactly. THAT'S what we don't do. Squinch Jul 2017 #109

Narrow minds respond to simplistic slogans. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2017 #64

And this is exactly why so many think we are elitist hueymahl Jul 2017 #72

Last I heard, this was Democratic Underground, and not broadcast television. ehrnst Jul 2017 #80

ALL minds respond to simplistic slogans. So "just do it!" Squinch Jul 2017 #76

Yeah, so "Stronger together" wasn't simple enough? (nt) ehrnst Jul 2017 #81

Stronger together didn't address anyone's fear. No one is afraid of being less strong together. Or Squinch Jul 2017 #82

What would? ehrnst Jul 2017 #86

"Take back your power." Squinch Jul 2017 #89

Again - that's what MAGA was about. ehrnst Jul 2017 #92

I don't really know what you are referring to. Squinch Jul 2017 #95

MAGA is about white people "taking back their power" ehrnst Jul 2017 #119

Hope and Change, Stronger Together ehrnst Jul 2017 #125

You mean rhetoric? A catchy little tune? That is what the people have got to have? pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #55

Yes, it is sad, and I took your same position before the election when DUer Recursion said Squinch Jul 2017 #58

So we need to play to the Dem base. That's a bit more quantifiable. ehrnst Jul 2017 #126

I think this is horrible, though I do not know it being horrible makes me right. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #132

But I don't think that characterization is entirely correct. Squinch Jul 2017 #134

I think some may just be more susceptible to that type gimmick. I am not and never have been. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #136

You're confusing message with commercial branding and bumper stickers. LanternWaste Jul 2017 #65

But I would disagree with you and say you are confusing party policy statement with message. Squinch Jul 2017 #78

how about "The SANE party" onetexan Jul 2017 #112

When so much gets neglected, it becomes impossible to make it into a bumper sticker. At least Doitnow Jul 2017 #115

Yep! relayerbob Jul 2017 #116

How about "We are the 99%!"? (Former Occupy Los Angeleno here) - nt KingCharlemagne Jul 2017 #127

Statehood for DC AND... MarianJack Jul 2017 #8

I am one of those who often complains about Democratic messaging. All those things Squinch Jul 2017 #9

Yes we need a message, but more importantly we need a MESSENGER who is capable of communicating it! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #17

We have a message. Most people who voted for economic issues voted for HRC. ehrnst Jul 2017 #21

I see it differently. For me this isn't only about the person at the top. Rather than needing Squinch Jul 2017 #24

"An orchestrated message" luvtheGWN Jul 2017 #33

Exactly. It is the ONE thing we can learn from Republicans, and we better learn it fast. Squinch Jul 2017 #35

Those attracted to the far right demonize "government" and any ehrnst Jul 2017 #63

The first rule of communication is . . . ariadne0614 Jul 2017 #11

So true. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2017 #18

And knowing that no one has a universal audience is another rule of communication. ehrnst Jul 2017 #19

I didn't mean to imply ariadne0614 Jul 2017 #41

I think that's the description of one-size-fits all. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2017 #46

yeap YCHDT Jul 2017 #56

Word. 👍 Duppers Jul 2017 #90

Protect Voting Rights oasis Jul 2017 #12

this mopinko Jul 2017 #32

How about Scarsdale Jul 2017 #13

"People First" Duppers Jul 2017 #91

"Take back your power." Squinch Jul 2017 #98

I like "People first" n/t TexasBushwhacker Jul 2017 #103

No message gets through to the RW and LW bigots except to trash Obama and Hillary. nikibatts Jul 2017 #15

No message gets through to people who think that they deserve a candidate tailored ehrnst Jul 2017 #20

not bad but too long, disorganized and not prioritized melm00se Jul 2017 #25

That's actually a better reply to the "Democrats don't stand for anything" meme GoCubsGo Jul 2017 #26

That tag line is great. I'd say, "Cleaning up after corrupt Republicans since 1929." Squinch Jul 2017 #29

I don't think you guys are getting the concept of messaging. The list is great. It is true. It is Squinch Jul 2017 #28

+1,000,000 marylandblue Jul 2017 #36

YES!!! A million times, yes. n/t snpsmom Jul 2017 #38

Republicans fall in line - that's why simplistic black/white messaging works for them. ehrnst Jul 2017 #47

Well, help me with it. I think we could come up with a concept, which of course advertising people Squinch Jul 2017 #51

I think that getting out in front of language is the first step ehrnst Jul 2017 #61

I got it! If I were in charge, our message would be, "TAKE BACK YOUR POWER." Squinch Jul 2017 #75

I think many believe that their power has been taken away by ehrnst Jul 2017 #83

PS. Yes, Republicans fall in line, but we are all susceptible to absorbing information that is Squinch Jul 2017 #57

Statehood for DC would secure Dem majority in Senate mcar Jul 2017 #30

Yes but it's not a message for anyone outside DC marylandblue Jul 2017 #37

"Freedom" jayschool2013 Jul 2017 #39

Post removed Post removed Jul 2017 #42

LOL. I think you took a wrong turn at JPR. You seem to be lost. Squinch Jul 2017 #45

Plan to bash Democrats a lot here? (nt) ehrnst Jul 2017 #48

So our message seems to be... vi5 Jul 2017 #43

No - that's the message of the blogger to those who say Dems don't have a message. ehrnst Jul 2017 #49

It Seems Me. Jul 2017 #50

But it's in line with what I see on here a lot..... vi5 Jul 2017 #59

Don't have a message for whom? (nt) ehrnst Jul 2017 #88

When has a party ever had a single message? BainsBane Jul 2017 #107

If average voters don't know what our message is IronLionZion Jul 2017 #74

Define "average voters" please. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2017 #87

You're working kind of hard not to hear anyone who answers you. Squinch Jul 2017 #96

Give me a link to where it has been defined. ehrnst Jul 2017 #124

unfortunately that IS the message.....apparently THAT is what we stand for virtualobserver Jul 2017 #52

No - that's the message of the blogger to those who say Dems don't have a message.(nt) ehrnst Jul 2017 #62

Reminds me of this.. aidbo Jul 2017 #54

You want a slogan BainsBane Jul 2017 #105

Kerry reduced his to 20 minutes, four points. And still, news said he had no message. pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #53

I hear it all of the time ...they are really talking marketing. Alice11111 Jul 2017 #70

I think the base was clear the supported our base, which would reinforce that the Democratic pirateshipdude Jul 2017 #71

Yes. We ARE talking marketing. Marketing is how you get your message out in the modern world. Squinch Jul 2017 #79

Yeah, we act as though people will be persuaded by facts. Alice11111 Jul 2017 #137

They won't be persuaded by facts if they never hear the facts. Squinch Jul 2017 #139

Marketing costs money. And raising money is CORRUPT!!! ehrnst Jul 2017 #84

Hahahah! take all the plusses ++++++++++++++++ JHan Jul 2017 #117

Yup! Not only is raising money for things corrupt, it's establishment-status-quo. betsuni Jul 2017 #118

You can't fight nukes and automatic weapons by throwing Alice11111 Jul 2017 #138

Kick-ass Hekate Jul 2017 #66

k and r and bookmarking for a very handy list niyad Jul 2017 #67

Ask average voters in the districts what Democrats stand for IronLionZion Jul 2017 #73

Define "average voters in the districts," please. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2017 #85

That's why we lost the election IronLionZion Jul 2017 #93

So define the characteristics of "the person who votes or has the right to vote at an election." ehrnst Jul 2017 #94

You're really determined to prove that there are no answers, aren't you? Squinch Jul 2017 #97

I just want someone to define "average American voter" since ehrnst Jul 2017 #121

This began as an interesting discussion. You've turned it into something else. Have a nice day. Squinch Jul 2017 #122

I've drilled down to the crux - that it's not as simple as some seem to think it is. ehrnst Jul 2017 #123

You haven't drilled down to anything. You are, now, simply discounting anything that doesn't Squinch Jul 2017 #135

Here you go IronLionZion Jul 2017 #101

Argument by meme. ehrnst Jul 2017 #120

Here's the precise quantitative breakdown you need to answer your question IronLionZion Jul 2017 #128

You'll have to sample way more than corgis ehrnst Jul 2017 #129

Here's how Pew does it IronLionZion Jul 2017 #130

I know very well how Pew samples ehrnst Jul 2017 #131

That's why we lost elections IronLionZion Jul 2017 #133

And that is why we need to get the word out. Lady Freedom Returns Jul 2017 #99

I get angry every time I see Dems accused of being only against Trump, having no message. betsuni Jul 2017 #100

The Republican messages are Progressive dog Jul 2017 #102

Wow, 30 bullet points and not a single fucking one addressing cannabis legalization. Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #104

Thank you for making it abundantly clear. n/t gtar100 Jul 2017 #106

Hmmm bearsfootball516 Jul 2017 #110

It won't fit on a baseball cap! Hamlette Jul 2017 #113