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32. Prof. George Lakoff does a great job explaining
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 10:50 AM
Jul 2017

"Conservative moral values arise from what I call the Strict Father Family.

In this family model, father knows best. He decides right and wrong. He has the ultimate authority to make sure his children and his spouse do what he says, because what he says is right. Many conservative spouses accept this worldview, uphold the father’s authority, and are strict in those realms of family life that they control.
....

What if they don’t prosper? That means they are not disciplined, and therefore cannot be moral, and so deserve their poverty. In this conservative view, the poor are seen as lazy and undeserving while the rich deserve their wealth. Responsibility is thus taken to be personal responsibility, not social responsibility. What you become is only up to you, not society. You are responsible for yourself, not for others.

The Conservative Moral Hierarchy

The strict father logic extends further. The basic idea is that authority is justified by morality (the strict father version), and that, in a world ordered by nature, there should be (and traditionally has been) a moral hierarchy in which those who have traditionally dominated should dominate.

Why do conservatives love Trump (who harms them) and hate healthcare (which helps them)? It makes more sense when you consider the conservative moral hierarcy.

The Conservative Moral Hierarchy:
• God above Man
• Man above Nature
• The Disciplined (Strong) above the Undisciplined (Weak)
• The Rich above the Poor
• Employers above Employees
• Adults above Children
• Western culture above other cultures
• America above other countries
• Men above Women
• Whites above Nonwhites
• Christians above non-Christians
• Straights above Gays

Sound familiar?

On the whole, conservative policies flow from the Strict Father worldview and this hierarchy. Trump is an extreme case (he wants to be the ultimate strict father), though very much in line with conservative policies of the Republican party.


Much more...

https://georgelakoff.com/2017/07/01/two-questions-about-trump-and-republicans-that-stump-progressives/

Doesn't this sound EXACTLY like what is preached in conservative churches?



Cut PBS Funding! Just kidding. K and R! mucifer Jul 2017 #1
This misses the point. Evangelicals, Pentecostals, etc. care about SCOTUS. Trump delivers that. TheBlackAdder Jul 2017 #81
Good point Roy Rolling Jul 2017 #104
LOL, 'What Part of Donald Trump Reminds You of Jesus Christ?' HAB911 Jul 2017 #2
All evangelicals are sex fiends at heart GusBob Jul 2017 #3
Now, now. The percentage who are at least stupid IS likely to rise after Hortensis Jul 2017 #70
Hear, hear. TomSlick Jul 2017 #87
Yes. TOS frequently violated: No bigotry/insensitivity. Hortensis Jul 2017 #88
Thanks TomSlick Jul 2017 #90
Notice how the post stated Motownman78 Jul 2017 #94
What does "Hardcore" Christian mean? TomSlick Jul 2017 #95
So there's no poking fun..... SergeStorms Jul 2017 #98
You have every right to say whatever you will. TomSlick Jul 2017 #110
Did you read what I wrote? SergeStorms Jul 2017 #111
They are some of the biggest hypocrites on Earth along with Repub. BigmanPigman Jul 2017 #91
Jesus was white. Dulcinea Jul 2017 #4
Like Santa. And we know because Megyn told us so. Squinch Jul 2017 #8
Right? Except of course Dump is orange... WoonTars Jul 2017 #78
The evangelicals know that Trump is not Christ-Like NewJeffCT Jul 2017 #5
Their pastors Scarsdale Jul 2017 #25
I wonder if they ever considered what they'd do with themselves if abortion were outlawed. calimary Jul 2017 #41
They would need to investigate NewJeffCT Jul 2017 #46
They'd stay busy shaming single mothers. snort Jul 2017 #54
Abortion's just a foot in the door lapislzi Jul 2017 #63
And then the big one...owning property. Lars39 Jul 2017 #105
Gays will be their sole target after the end of legal abortion (they'll sinkingfeeling Jul 2017 #66
They will always come up with more and more stuff. Next, they'll be conned that the sky is green kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2017 #96
Abortion is a big reason, but how do they overlook cutting Meals on Wheels and other Dustlawyer Jul 2017 #97
Here is more like Herod Antipas exboyfil Jul 2017 #6
Yeah, what part? Achilleaze Jul 2017 #7
A few of observations. Nitram Jul 2017 #9
"picture perfect family"? Scarsdale Jul 2017 #27
We have a different understanding of the phrase 'picture perfect.' Nitram Jul 2017 #45
The Trump boys never noticed any military recruiting stations in their state considering how much th keithbvadu2 Jul 2017 #48
Avoiding military service is a Trump family tradition... Rollo Jul 2017 #101
The Romney boys considered riding on daddy's campaign bus the equivalent of military service. keithbvadu2 Jul 2017 #107
Some of the most vile people I've known professed to be christians. bearssoapbox Jul 2017 #10
There is nothing about Christianity Mariana Jul 2017 #57
So true bearssoapbox Jul 2017 #61
Exactly. So true. Hortensis Jul 2017 #71
Perhaps more likely Major Nikon Jul 2017 #92
I Remember All Those videohead5 Jul 2017 #11
Yes, but Scarsdale Jul 2017 #28
Yep. GOP hypocrisy is TrishaJ Jul 2017 #29
Many white evangelicals are actually white supremacists JI7 Jul 2017 #12
This padfun Jul 2017 #31
What color/race was Jesus? It depends on whose wall his picture is hanging. keithbvadu2 Jul 2017 #50
Yes, the KKK was "christian". Hieronymus Jul 2017 #79
Ken Burns G_j Jul 2017 #13
One word: Abortion. Evangelicals and RCs will overlook ANY SIN or CRIME** to support a Republican WinkyDink Jul 2017 #14
Since I live in the south , Mojoe31 Jul 2017 #15
Welcome to DU. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2017 #18
Welcome aboard, Mojoe31 HelenWheels Jul 2017 #20
Welcome to DU!! ailsagirl Jul 2017 #34
But education, while correlated to wealth does not necessarily mean rich Caliman73 Jul 2017 #49
+1000 Kaleva Jul 2017 #53
It's because he is most like them, Shell_Seas Jul 2017 #16
He reminds them of their pastor greymattermom Jul 2017 #17
Exactly! Duppers Jul 2017 #33
They've crafted a narrative specifically for this. trotsky Jul 2017 #19
Many also subscribe to the so-called "Prosperity Gospel" lapislzi Jul 2017 #65
That is also true. trotsky Jul 2017 #76
Plus not fooled Jul 2017 #109
They don't care. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2017 #21
Supreme Court oberliner Jul 2017 #24
That is the stage of de-evolution this country is now at Cosmocat Jul 2017 #42
Transcript of the interview with The Daily Beast. . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2017 #22
+1 dalton99a Jul 2017 #108
Supreme Court oberliner Jul 2017 #23
They're playing a very long game. Kentonio Jul 2017 #26
This is exactly the reason I hate them as well. Initech Jul 2017 #43
Don't forget the "forgiveness" part.. LakeArenal Jul 2017 #30
Prof. George Lakoff does a great job explaining Duppers Jul 2017 #32
wow. nails it - n/t Locrian Jul 2017 #37
Doesn't it though! Duppers Jul 2017 #40
I really like Lakoff... Locrian Jul 2017 #47
Finally read that 2016 article. Thanks. Duppers Jul 2017 #85
Excellent analysis Bayard Jul 2017 #59
Thank you! Duppers Jul 2017 #72
KnR for Ken Burns Hekate Jul 2017 #35
It's Not About The POTUS Being Like Christ SDJay Jul 2017 #36
Burns has a new 18-hour documentary coming out SCantiGOP Jul 2017 #38
Jesus didn't preach bigotry and racism. Trump does. Cyrano Jul 2017 #39
Christianity most certainly does Major Nikon Jul 2017 #93
The " teachings of Jesus" are it. Anything else is Paulism and history. WinkyDink Jul 2017 #99
Paul was a fraud and a charlatan Major Nikon Jul 2017 #100
Kind of like an ancient Col. Tom Parker. WinkyDink Jul 2017 #103
the thumb sucking in the manger.... samnsara Jul 2017 #44
Political Christians rather than Christians of faith. keithbvadu2 Jul 2017 #51
Trump threw the moneychangers into the temple. Sneederbunk Jul 2017 #52
Jesus once cursed a fig-tree that had wronged him. And Trump is paranoid. DetlefK Jul 2017 #55
Trump is a tool for the Fundies to use to achieve their goals Kaleva Jul 2017 #56
Hey...I was going to post the same. Missn-Hitch Jul 2017 #60
I think the fundies - or at least the ones who believe in blond Jesus - have convinced Vinca Jul 2017 #58
The current hoard of demons who would call themselves Christian randr Jul 2017 #62
K & R! Lifelong Protester Jul 2017 #64
Completely pointless to appeal to cognitive reasoning: 45 represents their resentment lindysalsagal Jul 2017 #67
They ... don't ... care. broadcaster90210 Jul 2017 #68
Remember DownriverDem Jul 2017 #69
I just posted on FaceBook... kentuck Jul 2017 #73
They don't want Jesus as a leader oegthe Jul 2017 #74
You forgot one thing on why evangelicals love Trump maryellen99 Jul 2017 #75
Great question, Ken Burns. Hieronymus Jul 2017 #77
MANY MANSIONS Goonch Jul 2017 #80
Reading this, it just struck me: CULTS are similar to how Trump is. Cults are based in religion. Honeycombe8 Jul 2017 #82
It's why I refer to the Orange Fucksicle's followers as Branch Trumpvidians 47of74 Jul 2017 #84
Define irony. Initech Jul 2017 #83
Umm, two legs? JHB Jul 2017 #86
Come, guys. TomSlick Jul 2017 #89
The part that gave them the supreme court marlakay Jul 2017 #102
"The part that's not black like Obama" misanthrope Jul 2017 #106
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