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Fumesucker

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50. The Magdalene Laundries..
Tue Jul 10, 2012, 02:19 PM
Jul 2012
http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-3445_162-567365.html

Someone once said the only thing really new in the world is the history we don't know. The Irish people are learning that right now and it's a painful experience.

It began five years ago when an order of nuns in Dublin sold off part of its convent to real estate developers. On that property were the remains of 133 women buried in unmarked graves, and buried with them was a scandal.

As it turns out, the women had been virtual prisoners, confined by the Catholic Church behind convent walls for perceived sins of the flesh, and sentenced to a life of servitude in something called the Magdalene laundries.

It sounds medieval, something that happened hundreds of years ago, but, in fact, the last Magdalene laundry closed just over two years ago. And as the story was firstly reported in 1999, revelations have shocked the Irish people, embarrassed the Catholic Church and tarnished the country's image.
Potato PatHAto. nt Javaman Jul 2012 #1
She could do a lot worse. Craig_Langford Jul 2012 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jul 2012 #3
It's getting 'funny' around here lately, isn't it? n/t PCIntern Jul 2012 #4
I know...wtf? cwydro Jul 2012 #9
No it's as stupid as the others MattBaggins Jul 2012 #18
When I reincarnate, I would like to come back as a flea so I can coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #77
I will whole heartedly give you that one MattBaggins Jul 2012 #88
I would come back as one of my parents. louis-t Jul 2012 #107
Hah! In my case, that would be some seriously bad karma at work, were coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #153
See, now you have an incentive to work on building up some coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #154
Reincarnation isnt a Buddhist belief FreeState Jul 2012 #179
Maybe as stupid cwydro Jul 2012 #114
There are many Tamils who would beg to differ MattBaggins Jul 2012 #166
Tibet wasn't exactly a nice place to live. The Dali Lama owned slaves. Puregonzo1188 Jul 2012 #181
Fiction is fiction. Incitatus Jul 2012 #216
And bigots are bigots. Swamp Lover Jul 2012 #218
i was about to ask the same thing... Blue_Tires Jul 2012 #15
The DL has weirder, more regressive ideas about sex than the pope. LeftyMom Jul 2012 #16
Oh, does he believe in the vagina vampire? Scootaloo Jul 2012 #65
He believes that sex during the day is misconduct. LeftyMom Jul 2012 #82
Exactly who looks to a monk for sex advice, anyway? n/t Scootaloo Jul 2012 #83
My dad is ex-Catholic & current Zen Buddhist K8-EEE Jul 2012 #23
I wouldn't say it's worse as religions go but . . . 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #44
Hollywood Buddhism is fucking ridiculous, yes Scootaloo Jul 2012 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jul 2012 #90
Well, what does it sound like? Scootaloo Jul 2012 #95
That's the one where you see women monks MattBaggins Jul 2012 #167
Not true, actually Scootaloo Jul 2012 #214
To be fair Hollywood any spirituality is usually stupid. white_wolf Jul 2012 #141
Huh? Nt DevonRex Jul 2012 #8
Yeah. They don't eat Jesus meat crackers in Buddhism. Who needs that?! Arugula Latte Jul 2012 #12
What an ignorant post. Pope Pius XII knew the Holocaust was occuring coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #14
And then there were all those Italian Renaissance popes.. ananda Jul 2012 #17
The Japanese army in China in WWII? n/t arcane1 Jul 2012 #36
There is a sect of Buddhism popular in Japan - Nichiren Shoshu - but coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #61
...really? Scootaloo Jul 2012 #63
Hmm, when's the last time a Buddhist set up a concentration camp that used coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #71
Unit 731 Scootaloo Jul 2012 #79
that's easy - it was called unit 731 and it was arely staircase Jul 2012 #136
OK, I'm clearly at quite a disadvantage here, as I am not well-enough coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #152
To be fair, even Buddhism has its fundy types. backscatter712 Jul 2012 #159
Well, under this logic... Scootaloo Jul 2012 #215
I know enough to know when I am way out of my depth. I wanted to refer you to this little coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #217
As far as I can figure, they're all equally stupid Scootaloo Jul 2012 #219
I'm a 'lapsed Buddhist' (if such exists) b/c I could never wrap coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #229
Depends on your flavor of Buddhism Scootaloo Jul 2012 #234
is it really fair to ascribe the actions of Unit 731 to Buddhism? arely staircase Jul 2012 #239
Yes, I got quite an education yesterday about Unit 731 and how coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #243
Buddhism died out in India due to opposition by both Muslims and Hindus. white_wolf Jul 2012 #137
just to correct your b/s about the Maurya Empire .... marasinghe Jul 2012 #208
The Dalai Lama has had associations with the Nazis Craig_Langford Jul 2012 #182
Wow, that sure is some screed. Let it be noted that this began with coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #203
Given tht Buddhism is almost more a philosophy than an actual religion because no god is worshipped, kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #39
Naw, nothing fundie about the motives behind this thread: BeHereNow Jul 2012 #155
That's some bullshinto right there. n/t miyazaki Jul 2012 #115
Craig_Langford: Your post is extremely offensive. BeHereNow Jul 2012 #149
And calling Catholicism a "cult" isn't offensive to Catholics? Craig_Langford Jul 2012 #177
You miss the point of my post, and what I find offensive about yours. BeHereNow Jul 2012 #220
What is wrong with Buddhism over other choices? n/t RKP5637 Jul 2012 #176
R#2 &K for the superlative and spot-on Trumad wit!1 n/t UTUSN Jul 2012 #5
“She has not yet attended a service,...." Seems backwards. yellowcanine Jul 2012 #6
At least she didn't switch to Islam slackmaster Jul 2012 #7
You got a problem with Yusuf Islam? UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #118
I'm being followed by a PO-lice car, PO-lice car po-LICE car! slackmaster Jul 2012 #119
katie is exercising free will. she is entitled. roguevalley Jul 2012 #10
Since her child is a girl, perhaps a reasonable choice, Lionessa Jul 2012 #11
Except she's joining a re-joining an old cult that holds women to be second-class citizens. Arugula Latte Jul 2012 #13
Hence the "/snark" at the end of my comment. Lionessa Jul 2012 #24
I was raised Catholic blueamy66 Jul 2012 #104
So where are the women holding positions of power in the Church? Arugula Latte Jul 2012 #111
Who cares? One needs to "hold a position of power" in a church for the church to matter? REALLY? blueamy66 Jul 2012 #198
If you are banned from holding a position of power, you are a second class citizen, no? Arugula Latte Jul 2012 #236
I was raised Catholic and I did indeed feel like a second class citizen... Luminous Animal Jul 2012 #133
I'm afraid your experience doesn't matter. JNelson6563 Jul 2012 #227
So I am a cultist? Thanks for letting me know. Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #19
I'm an ex-Cultist (ex-Catholic) K8-EEE Jul 2012 #26
Thanks for telling us. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2012 #47
You only get cookies at mass. GoneOffShore Jul 2012 #123
This looks like the perfect opportunity to post this: PassingFair Jul 2012 #148
Wow, sorry for your experience blueamy66 Jul 2012 #199
Yup. Religions are cults HERVEPA Jul 2012 #28
When you refer to Dr. Martin Luther King, do you describe him as a cultist? onenote Jul 2012 #32
Why should I do so? being in a cult doesn't mean you can't do good works. HERVEPA Jul 2012 #100
Christianity itself is a cult. It was one of many that existed at the time of Jesus. slackmaster Jul 2012 #54
Bingo! UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #121
Yep! A cult and another form of politics to control and wield power. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2012 #180
Makes me a cultist also now what should I do? Meg_Griffin_1 Jul 2012 #242
her life, her choice. bigwillq Jul 2012 #20
Catholicism isn't a cult you "d" word! LaurenG Jul 2012 #21
So you get to define cult? HERVEPA Jul 2012 #29
I was sort of ribbing trumad. nt LaurenG Jul 2012 #37
That made me laugh. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #41
Thanks for the image. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #122
This message was self-deleted by its author HERVEPA Jul 2012 #30
Catholicism most certainly is a cult. RadiationTherapy Jul 2012 #31
Darling? trumad Jul 2012 #33
Yes all of those too! LaurenG Jul 2012 #35
Oh and I can't stand huffpo they won't let me read without a long LaurenG Jul 2012 #22
Being a casual catholic is pretty much harmless. Thats nothing like scientology. phleshdef Jul 2012 #25
That is correct from what I have seen get the red out Jul 2012 #38
The Magdalene Laundries.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #50
Very true!!!! get the red out Jul 2012 #60
It's not like the Magdalene Laundries are ancient history.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #81
No, I did not imply that get the red out Jul 2012 #102
I get your point but thats still not anywhere close to a common experience... phleshdef Jul 2012 #69
And of 80 million or so U.S. Catholics, how many of them have been held imprisoned pnwmom Jul 2012 #209
Touched a nerve, eh? Fumesucker Jul 2012 #225
I'm sure it will "touch your nerve" for me to point out that Scientology is an atheistic "science" pnwmom Jul 2012 #232
Scientology is a pimple compared to the influence and power of the Catholic church.. Fumesucker Jul 2012 #233
Once a magic thinker, always a magic thinker. nt valerief Jul 2012 #27
That silly Martin Luther King. No one should have paid any attention to him onenote Jul 2012 #34
Where did the poster say no-one should pay them any attention..?? truebrit71 Jul 2012 #70
Then why bother to denigrate those who choose to identify as a member of a religion. onenote Jul 2012 #73
Whilst belief in magical beings is cute and adorable at an early age - think Tooth Fairy/ Santa... truebrit71 Jul 2012 #84
"Most people at some point...move on" onenote Jul 2012 #247
Careful, you're going to wear out your example. JackRiddler Jul 2012 #76
When it stops being a good example, I'll stop using it. onenote Jul 2012 #231
Amen! Mimosa Jul 2012 #244
Blessed are they that suffer persecution for justice' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Christopher Marlowe Jul 2012 #40
Excellent. Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #43
Forget the deal made between the Vatican and Nazi Germany. Ikonoklast Jul 2012 #46
I too would agree it's the good or evil that men do rather than any religion or philosophy LanternWaste Jul 2012 #89
I think you summed it up rather well, it is people that can be evil or good RKP5637 Jul 2012 #183
Are you an American? Forget the genocide of American Indians. Forget 245 years of wealth transfer patrice Jul 2012 #204
Wow registered almost three years ago to make that your first post? Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2012 #48
Our laws were established by the Catholic Church? Warren Stupidity Jul 2012 #51
Many were at least saved by the Catholic Church. ieoeja Jul 2012 #93
Uh oh---my eyes are bleeding. trumad Jul 2012 #52
... Kali Jul 2012 #55
Forget all the other groups that have done the same MattBaggins Jul 2012 #105
Forget Classical Greek philosophy, Roman technology and Arab math? LeftyMom Jul 2012 #130
Well said! +++ 1,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Jul 2012 #184
Oh man, one doesn't know where to begin. All the knowledge of the coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #157
Islam rebooted western civilization RainDog Jul 2012 #195
Very sad. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #42
Oh seriously.... Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2012 #45
Yeah maybe I should confess trumad Jul 2012 #49
yeah, I'm not a Catholic cwydro Jul 2012 #112
Really? YOu do know there are many Catholic DUers here LynneSin Jul 2012 #53
Catholic Boy Myself... trumad Jul 2012 #56
So that gives you the right to degrade it even if others feel differently LynneSin Jul 2012 #91
You mean religious freedom? trumad Jul 2012 #92
And I respect your belief I am going to Hell jberryhill Jul 2012 #120
Why would I think any of you would be going to hell LynneSin Jul 2012 #126
All righty then jberryhill Jul 2012 #129
Hell is for people like Dick Cheney, Rush Limbaugh and Fred Phelps LynneSin Jul 2012 #173
Agree - and I'm not Catholic leftynyc Jul 2012 #62
Militant atheism? UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #124
Yes - militant atheism leftynyc Jul 2012 #228
You spelled God wrong. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #230
No, I did not leftynyc Jul 2012 #237
Me too, but people who don't understand why Mormonism/Scientology are 'cultish' and organized grantcart Jul 2012 #64
I agree, and it's sad to see. richmwill Jul 2012 #139
Or ... she just punched Tom and Scientology right in the face!! JoePhilly Jul 2012 #58
I think you're on the right track, yep, it well might be an excellent RKP5637 Jul 2012 #185
Here are some other members of her cult! Drunken Irishman Jul 2012 #59
well ignorance isn't against the rules. grantcart Jul 2012 #66
+1 onenote Jul 2012 #75
I'm too lazy to post Priests trumad Jul 2012 #94
Really?!? Drunken Irishman Jul 2012 #97
Oh fuck it. trumad Jul 2012 #108
Yup. Fuck it. Drunken Irishman Jul 2012 #196
How about finding a list of atheists who have done such things? treestar Jul 2012 #99
Any group will have some, if it's large enough. MineralMan Jul 2012 #101
Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #110
Actually, I was thinking about sports coaches and teachers, MineralMan Jul 2012 #116
Unreal trumad Jul 2012 #117
Really. You do that. And I'll post the priest from my home parish. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2012 #138
i LOVE how you didn't put mother theresa in that montage... ret5hd Jul 2012 #134
I love it too! Drunken Irishman Jul 2012 #194
I'd like to point out one thing about this list. AngryOldDem Jul 2012 #161
Excellent post trumad Jul 2012 #174
As a catholic I am VERY HAPPY to hear she is going back to her roots. I would tell Katie southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #67
so those that don't believe in god? nt ret5hd Jul 2012 #135
Where did I say that those who don't believe in god are bad? I don't have a problem with southernyankeebelle Jul 2012 #163
I was raised Catholic....and guess what? Taught me how to think. Avalux Jul 2012 #68
A cult, eh? MineralMan Jul 2012 #72
As usual... trumad Jul 2012 #85
No problem. I'm always happy to MineralMan Jul 2012 #98
Everything in life is a cult, including being an Atheist. Amerigo Vespucci Jul 2012 #74
Agree trumad Jul 2012 #86
Somebody here recently called me an "Occupy Fetishist" (which is probably coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #158
Scientology keeps reluctant members as prisoners rox63 Jul 2012 #78
They don't personally pursue you because they don't have to. jeff47 Jul 2012 #128
She won't have to hire bodyguards to protect her if she leaves Catholicism again. pnwmom Jul 2012 #80
+1 get the red out Jul 2012 #106
better she had gone with some other type of imaginary thinking... LanternWaste Jul 2012 #87
Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #96
Catholicism is not a cult blueamy66 Jul 2012 #103
Prove it. trumad Jul 2012 #109
What a punkass OP Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #132
So what's the difference between a "cult" and a "mainstream religion"? backscatter712 Jul 2012 #125
well at least you are willing to admit it. nt arely staircase Jul 2012 #140
Well, the Church of Scientology has been investing heavily in real-estate... backscatter712 Jul 2012 #156
I still maintain that ALL religions are cults Taverner Jul 2012 #144
Thank God I'm an atheist....... panader0 Jul 2012 #147
This cult needs more cowbell Son of Gob Jul 2012 #113
Thank you. eShirl Jul 2012 #162
Nice little thread you got goin' here, Trumad. UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #127
jfk, rfk, teddie, jerry brown, the cuomos, sotomayor, pelosi, biden, murtha arely staircase Jul 2012 #131
Bernardo de Guy, Bill Donohue, (p)Rick Santorum, Pope Alexander (House of Medeci).... Taverner Jul 2012 #143
please do. you are only making my point. arely staircase Jul 2012 #145
All churches have blood on their hands Taverner Jul 2012 #146
my church does not teach "it has an objective truth that no one else can attain." arely staircase Jul 2012 #240
You left out the Borgias. Are you showing a covert pro-Catholic coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #160
Yep. Taverner Jul 2012 #142
+1, n/t RKP5637 Jul 2012 #188
Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #150
If she takes most of the teachings on sex, etc. as seriously as most Catholics in the first world do diane in sf Jul 2012 #151
Bless your heart taterguy Jul 2012 #164
God is real BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #165
Prove it. DavidDvorkin Jul 2012 #168
Post removed Post removed Jul 2012 #171
Anonymous degenerate! DavidDvorkin Jul 2012 #186
I can't wait to hear your opinion on asses and elbows. rug Jul 2012 #169
Yes, how much better the world would be to have been freed from the tyranny of religion scarletwoman Jul 2012 #170
I wonder what works would have replaced them. Gore1FL Jul 2012 #200
Scarletwoman, K&R your post Mimosa Jul 2012 #245
Really? HarveyDarkey Jul 2012 #172
trumad, I'd love to know what definition of 'cult' you're working from. ithinkmyliverhurts Jul 2012 #175
If numbers disqualify being called a cult Capt. Obvious Jul 2012 #224
Stepford Folk orpupilofnature57 Jul 2012 #178
The Catholic Church isn't a cult, if you're using the standard def. Honeycombe8 Jul 2012 #187
Standard definition (and yes, the Catholic church qualifies). Luminous Animal Jul 2012 #201
LOL---I feel like Sinéad O'Connor here... trumad Jul 2012 #189
How does that make it a cult? ithinkmyliverhurts Jul 2012 #193
There are many good Catholic mzmolly Jul 2012 #207
It is not a cult; The Church is mass organized religion Rex Jul 2012 #238
And yet, I still can't seem to care n/t Prophet 451 Jul 2012 #190
Catholicism isn't a cult cpwm17 Jul 2012 #191
This is the meaning Webster ascribes to "cult" Gore1FL Jul 2012 #202
Thank god she got out with her daughter. Swede Jul 2012 #192
Meet the new cult, same as the old cult. pumaman Jul 2012 #197
Dumb post. emilyg Jul 2012 #205
This thread stinks. DU should be embarrassed. nt patrice Jul 2012 #211
The same cult the Kennedys belong to... mzmolly Jul 2012 #206
Apparently the ability to think freely & to live honestly whatever one's associations only applies patrice Jul 2012 #210
The all and knowing liberals here on DU where religious bigotry is at it's best. Bunch of hypocrites demosincebirth Jul 2012 #212
These aren't liberals and this thread pretty much proves it. nt patrice Jul 2012 #213
Outstanding post of truth, pecwae Jul 2012 #222
IMPEACH BIDEN FOR BELONGING TO A CULT (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #221
I'm not a cultist. nt XanaDUer Jul 2012 #223
The cult of sitting on my lap might have been better. dipsydoodle Jul 2012 #226
"In a cult, there is a person at the top who knows it's a scam. In a religion, that person is dead" muriel_volestrangler Jul 2012 #235
Trumad, you're one of the few posters I know adept enough with a flamethrower apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #241
Questions for those who agree with the OP that religions are "cults" and their members "cultists" onenote Jul 2012 #246
Better that than Xenu-ism any day of the week budkin Jul 2012 #248
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