Yes, we have known about the hacking for years.... (Reply #4)

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Sun Jun 25, 2017, 08:29 PM

4. Yes, we have known about the hacking for years....

It would be nice for the Dem leadership and people fight to fix this.

Otherwise we get what we have now in America - oligarchy.

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77 replies	Author	Time	Post
DHS Confirms That Optical Scan Vote-Counting Machines Easily Hacked [View all]	L. Coyote	Jun 2017	OP
KnR!	Cha	Jun 2017	#1
And yet elections officials REFUSE to do hand recounts, and intimidate citizens who question results	diva77	Jun 2017	#2
There was a time when this would be a major story on the likes of 60 Minutes	Ligyron	Jun 2017	#17
What are you going to do when it is also a meh issue for Democrats?	LiberalLovinLug	Jun 2017	#35
I posted action alert;might help to start holding elections officials accountable for epic failure	diva77	Jun 2017	#37
Amen!!	stevepal	Jun 2017	#76
K&R for visibility. nt	tblue37	Jun 2017	#3
Yes, we have known about the hacking for years....	Trial_By_Fire	Jun 2017	#4
Dem leaders say voters will lose confidence	onit2day	Jun 2017	#64
Each voter deserves a RECEIPT of his vote. And the district needs to keep a copy	Maraya1969	Jun 2017	#5
I thought receipts were the answer too, but I was told they aren't,	CrispyQ	Jun 2017	#71
Or the districts that refuse could be threatened with 2nd amendment remedies	Maraya1969	Jun 2017	#6
We need to begin today shouting this from the rooftops...	lastlib	Jun 2017	#12
K&R'd & bookmarked.	snot	Jun 2017	#7
This message was self-deleted by its author	snot	Jun 2017	#8
I've have been saying for years that is would be reasonably easy to find this sort of hacking.	Stonepounder	Jun 2017	#9
I totally agree	kyburbonkid	Jun 2017	#21
C-span video of computer science expert testifying before Senate Intel to that effect last week:	Amaryllis	Jun 2017	#10
Duh. n/t	tazkcmo	Jun 2017	#11
the hell else do we need....	dhill926	Jun 2017	#13
It is too simple to just say, "optical scan bad, hand count good".	Crash2Parties	Jun 2017	#14
Optical scan verified with hand count better. n/t	PoliticAverse	Jun 2017	#24
The gold standard!	Mopar151	Jun 2017	#34
You know what's also too simple? Reductive statements.	kcr	Jun 2017	#47
Not the best way	kwijybo	Jun 2017	#15
We need to repeat, over and over: "ALL elections must be with paper ballots and MUST be audited"	JoeOtterbein	Jun 2017	#16
What is so difficult about this concept? Very advanced countries use paper ballots with no problems.	Bernardo de La Paz	Jun 2017	#18
Optical scanners USE PAPER BALLOTS	OldRedneck	Jun 2017	#20
A verifiable audit would be done by hand. Ballots would be chain-of-custody verified. No business	JoeOtterbein	Jun 2017	#31
Would someone please get a grip on reality???	OldRedneck	Jun 2017	#19
Does your machine accept a memory card?	PoliticAverse	Jun 2017	#23
Pointless video that proves nothing	Lee-Lee	Jun 2017	#50
Thank you for your contribution. A few questions:	Girard442	Jun 2017	#25
NOt OldRedneck, but I can answer those questions for Colorado vote by mail ballots.	politicat	Jun 2017	#38
just because hacking hasn't occurred on your watch does not mean it never happens. no one is saying	TheFrenchRazor	Jun 2017	#65
And I am not saying it hasn't happened elsewhere, or that it's impossible here.	politicat	Jun 2017	#77
I can answer all those for NC at least	Lee-Lee	Jun 2017	#48
there's simply no need for computers period	Blues Heron	Jun 2017	#27
Thank you! Treat a vote as a valuable as a $100 bill is to a business: check it by hand and eye!	JoeOtterbein	Jun 2017	#33
... you do know that it's trivially simple to fool several counterfeit tests?	politicat	Jun 2017	#39
The premise is that the base code of the voting machine has been compromised.	Calista241	Jun 2017	#36
There shouldn't be any base code at all	Blues Heron	Jun 2017	#41
If you plug anything into a wall for power, there going to be code	Calista241	Jun 2017	#45
Secret proprietary code has no place in voting.	Blues Heron	Jun 2017	#49
Secret proprietary code is more secure, and harder to hack, than open source code.	Calista241	Jun 2017	#54
Like I said you are a very trusting soul LOL	Blues Heron	Jun 2017	#55
I work in software security, and what I said is a fact. Has nothing to do with trust.	Calista241	Jun 2017	#56
It's irrelevant, we don't need the computers period.	Blues Heron	Jun 2017	#57
maybe, assuming there are no bad actors, which would be a very naive assumption, IMO. nt	TheFrenchRazor	Jun 2017	#66
Thank you, way to much tinfoil around here on this topic	Amishman	Jun 2017	#42
There isn't only one premise.	kcr	Jun 2017	#44
How is the data procured if they aren't connected in any way except an electrical cord?	kcr	Jun 2017	#43
There are two ways	Lee-Lee	Jun 2017	#53
Just because there's no connection to the internet	kcr	Jun 2017	#59
Not impossible in theory but in practice and application it is fantasy	Lee-Lee	Jun 2017	#60
That's great but we could vote tomorrow on pen and paper	Blues Heron	Jun 2017	#61
You realize fraud happened all the time with paper, right?	Lee-Lee	Jun 2017	#62
So lets see the code if it's so great	Blues Heron	Jun 2017	#63
So much wrong with your post.	kcr	Jun 2017	#72
Then tell me one plausible method	Lee-Lee	Jun 2017	#73
executable files can be loaded via a memory card. nt	TheFrenchRazor	Jun 2017	#67
And how are they doing that?	Lee-Lee	Jun 2017	#69
Whether or not Russia actually hacked the vote, it simply shouldn't be possible to hack the vote.	unblock	Jun 2017	#22
correct; some people refuse to get this. nt	TheFrenchRazor	Jun 2017	#68
Chimp Hacks Diebold GEMS tabulator	turbinetree	Jun 2017	#26
Just like healthcare we are doing this wrong	Moral Compass	Jun 2017	#28
Segment from "Hacking Democracy" (2006) demonstrating hack of optical scanner machine...	PoliticAverse	Jun 2017	#29
This map does not show it but....	prairierose	Jun 2017	#30
I like the look of those hand-counted paper ballot districts.	byronius	Jun 2017	#32
Well we better hope there are some Good Hackers	Thrill	Jun 2017	#40
Nothing in the linked article backs up the headline	Lee-Lee	Jun 2017	#46
Nobody's even allowed to see the secret proprietary code	Blues Heron	Jun 2017	#51
And even if it's not hacked, there might be glitches and errors:	DetlefK	Jun 2017	#52
geez, looking at that map	bdamomma	Jun 2017	#58
The takeaway here: All methods are flawed and we're likely never to have another clean election.	BannonsLiver	Jun 2017	#70
They are optical scan vote counting machines	Progressive dog	Jun 2017	#74
Duh	colsohlibgal	Jun 2017	#75

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