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Bernardo de La Paz

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41. The White House REFUSED ethics briefings. He didn't even give himself the chance to pay attention.

Reply to MGKrebs (Reply #26)

Thu Jun 15, 2017, 12:31 PM

Jun 2017

Willful carelessness.

Rank amateurishness.

Arrogant ignorance.

Republican President Trump.

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BOOM! Trump allegedly asked Director of National Intelligence Coats [View all] KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 OP

Of course, he did! He asked Rogers as well. Trump knows the deeper they dig, the more he's... writes3000 Jun 2017 #1

Trump couldnt get Coats or Rogers (or Comey) to do his bidding. So KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #44

But he didn't 'pressure' him. onit2day Jun 2017 #62

which proves he knew what he was asking would be wrong SleeplessinSoCal Jun 2017 #68

I'm sure Trump has extensive experience in making threats and illegal suggestions Nitram Jun 2017 #75

Who can judge what "pressure" is? Pressure in this case is asking while being the POTUS! Maraya1969 Jun 2017 #71

that is why Coats discussed how he "felt".... virtualobserver Jun 2017 #2

What one "feels" is subjective.... Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2017 #12

Good point. - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #43

Nor does he wish to lose his job Maeve Jun 2017 #17

He wouldn't go to jail Sgent Jun 2017 #18

that was what I meant to imply virtualobserver Jun 2017 #19

has Comey mercuryblues Jun 2017 #3

Yes he did Phoenix61 Jun 2017 #10

They might not have done Trump's bidding, but they were in contempt of WinkyDink Jun 2017 #14

Thank you mercuryblues Jun 2017 #30

From Coats wouldn't answer this in public we knew the answer malaise Jun 2017 #4

Prepare for the now famous "locker room talk" defense Freethinker65 Jun 2017 #5

The spin: DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #6

he was just asking for his friend. mopinko Jun 2017 #7

Hahaha rusty fender Jun 2017 #48

Say Dan, Bannon and I have a bet, maybe you can settle it for us. n/t DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #58

hahahahaa Kellyanne's eyeballs might pop right out of her head from the pressure on this one *grin* luvMIdog Jun 2017 #8

That dog won't hunt. Still In Wisconsin Jun 2017 #9

Oh I'm not saying it will hunt DefenseLawyer Jun 2017 #33

It was a hypothetical question. Info for the screenplay he's writing... Shrike47 Jun 2017 #13

And once again, Ryan will probably ask us to believe that Comrade Fatass Buns_of_Fire Jun 2017 #15

Yup. That's already what one of the sons said after Comey's testimony. progressoid Jun 2017 #25

Was that Uday or Qusay? flibbitygiblets Jun 2017 #34

Beats me. I can't tell the difference. progressoid Jun 2017 #38

They always look to me like home invaders with stockings pulled over their head. NBachers Jun 2017 #64

LOL, I never realized that before. flibbitygiblets Jun 2017 #72

RICO! RICO! Eyeball_Kid Jun 2017 #52

Hope they'll be putting copies of Prison Times through cell bars. (n/t) klook Jun 2017 #67

LOL Ah, the infamous "hypothetically speaking" defense! :) -nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #45

Do we know if Coats or Rogers actually asked Comey to back off? Does that make them guilty as well? writes3000 Jun 2017 #11

I believe Comey. WinkyDink Jun 2017 #16

Did Comey testify that Coats or Rogers told him to back off? writes3000 Jun 2017 #29

I believe Comey testified they did not. Cant swear to it, though - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #46

so that's the head of the FBI and the head of the DNI are asked to derail an investigation.... spanone Jun 2017 #20

Simply the *appearance* of that happening cost HRC the presidency. JudyM Jun 2017 #74

re: "HOLY SHIT! Trump asked Coats to obstruct justice." thesquanderer Jun 2017 #21

Obstruction does not require that the obstruction was successful, I believe. Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #23

Is there ambiguity in firing Comey, as being obstruction ? Pluvious Jun 2017 #37

There was ambiguity right up to the point that the idiot told Lester Holt why he fired him. grantcart Jun 2017 #60

This thread is not about Comey. nt Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #70

This thread is about obstruction, firing Comey was defiantly obstruction of justice Pluvious Jun 2017 #73

Good point. (n/t) thesquanderer Jun 2017 #57

Makes no different if an investigation was actually obstructed Saviolo Jun 2017 #28

Correct. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2017 #54

"therefore no obstruction occurred" alcibiades_mystery Jun 2017 #31

Old news. Coats has already testified about it before Congress. Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #22

If Trump asked Coats to intervene, Trump was obstructing KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #47

I doubt if it matters what Coates "felt" or did. Patterson Jun 2017 #59

True enough. But he wouldn't confirm or deny what Trump had said to him. Honeycombe8 Jun 2017 #69

How can the fucking republicans continue to ignore this? liberal N proud Jun 2017 #24

Their Oath Is To Billionaires All-In Jun 2017 #27

Trump probably really didn't understand that he was breaking the law, MGKrebs Jun 2017 #26

He knew exactly what he was doing. It is what he has done Enoki33 Jun 2017 #35

That's what I mean though. In the business world the boss "leaning on" a subordinate MGKrebs Jun 2017 #39

Trumpy's always had enough money to buy off anyone. Except for now. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2017 #56

oh yes he was well aware onetexan Jun 2017 #36

The White House REFUSED ethics briefings. He didn't even give himself the chance to pay attention. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #41

Oh jeez, that's right. And now he'll claim ignorance MGKrebs Jun 2017 #61

His scamming has gone beyond intuitive. It is now reflexive. He can't help himself. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2017 #66

Did Flynn give Trump an ultimatum? procon Jun 2017 #32

Gang members stick together-----until they don't. Doitnow Jun 2017 #40

Coats is not a career Intelligence person he's a career GOPer. FenwayDonkey Jun 2017 #42

Honest question here. Grammy23 Jun 2017 #49

Thinking back to Watergate, once Nixon ordered Haldeman and Ehrlichman to KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #50

Doesn't it depend on the crime and what was actually done? hughee99 Jun 2017 #53

It seems comparable to when someone tries to hire a "hit man" to commit a murder. Tanuki Jun 2017 #76

And the maggot MFM008 Jun 2017 #51

Mueller allowed Coates & Rogers to GLOMAR to support comey's testimony...but kgop sat on their hands MedusaX Jun 2017 #55

Did he think Trump was joking? Seriously not believable that never felt pressured. Justice Jun 2017 #63

If you start by assuming that every word that leaves a Republican's KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #65

Coates Catherine Vincent Jun 2017 #77

I agree. - nt KingCharlemagne Jun 2017 #78