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Avalux

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24. Nope, not why.

Reply to Nye Bevan (Reply #22)

Sun Jul 8, 2012, 12:27 AM

Jul 2012

We know that it did based on evidence but the "why" part may be unknowable.

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Science is the Only Objective Truth [View all] Avalux Jul 2012 OP

K&R for telling of the Denialists AND the Woo-Woos! Odin2005 Jul 2012 #1

You know it! Tired of science getting trashed and the denialists. n/t Avalux Jul 2012 #2

Science doesn't yet provide all the answers to many deep questions ... spin Jul 2012 #3

Wrong ! RagAss Jul 2012 #4

That is basically true today ... spin Jul 2012 #8

Why should science have to deal with morality? vanlassie Jul 2012 #5

I totally agee. (n/t) spin Jul 2012 #9

Morality falls under the umbrella of psychology and sociology MattBaggins Jul 2012 #60

Philosophy has more to do with ethics & morality. DirkGently Jul 2012 #89

This message was self-deleted by its author Avalux Jul 2012 #10

Well I don't agree that I've tried to do anything except respond to the statement vanlassie Jul 2012 #14

I'm so sorry!! Avalux Jul 2012 #15

No problem-o! vanlassie Jul 2012 #16

Science doesn't deal with morality, period. MattBaggins Jul 2012 #61

What i've found... Scootaloo Jul 2012 #26

"many strains of Buddhism don't regard women as human" ? mmonk Jul 2012 #33

I was wondering that as well. white_wolf Jul 2012 #83

There are deep questions. Science doesn't know "the meaning of life." DirkGently Jul 2012 #56

Science doesn't know why kids love the taste of cinnamon toast crunch either MattBaggins Jul 2012 #63

Although I think there was a test regarding going Cuckoo for Coco-Puffs. DirkGently Jul 2012 #67

Life doesn't NEED a meaning. FrodosPet Jul 2012 #80

That's a philosophy. One of many possible. DirkGently Jul 2012 #93

No, we don't know everything. But we CAN. Scootaloo Jul 2012 #73

Uh, no. Philosophy is simply a different discipline. DirkGently Jul 2012 #74

Limiting if you think bullshit deserves a place next to fact, yes. Scootaloo Jul 2012 #82

That is a stunningly ludicrous definition of philosophy. DirkGently Jul 2012 #87

Ethics are actually instinctual Scootaloo Jul 2012 #90

Science doesn't observe "what's already there?" DirkGently Jul 2012 #92

+1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 x Infinity! Odin2005 Jul 2012 #58

^^This^^ nt mr blur Jul 2012 #68

Science does a great job dealing with morality. Religion sucks at it Major Nikon Jul 2012 #28

Philosophy discusses ethics, and science explains ethics Scootaloo Jul 2012 #29

No, science explains (or is in the process of explaining) Quantess Jul 2012 #31

Yes quantum physics is a fascinating subject ... spin Jul 2012 #65

No, I cannot wrap my mind around some of it! But it is fun trying! Quantess Jul 2012 #71

It seems to show that once what was considered impossible is actually possible ... spin Jul 2012 #72

Well it does provide answers for a lot of those things 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #43

Science in fact can deal with questions of morality MattBaggins Jul 2012 #59

History shows that both science and religion have sometimes been misused ... spin Jul 2012 #66

Science has actually contributed a great deal to our understanding of morality. LeftyMom Jul 2012 #84

The misuse of both science and religion have led to unnecessary war ... spin Jul 2012 #86

Yes, it does. We're just not there yet. nt RedCappedBandit Jul 2012 #97

While I agree with you concerning global climate change and its cause, MadHound Jul 2012 #6

Science is about a different kind of truth pwhtckll Jul 2012 #17

Excellent. It's a process. NOT "objective truth." DirkGently Jul 2012 #91

I agree. Well said. Your post should not have been bypassed. Festivito Jul 2012 #21

Yes. It's incredibly arrogant to pretend science is even objective. DirkGently Jul 2012 #88

I think Indiana Jones would agree with me on this one derby378 Jul 2012 #7

Not exactly. immoderate Jul 2012 #11

Semantics; you and I obviously have differing perceptions about the meaning of the word. Avalux Jul 2012 #12

However as we learn more, scientific theories often change. ... spin Jul 2012 #18

I know what you're saying.... Avalux Jul 2012 #19

I believe we will understand far more about dark matter in 20 to 50 years ... spin Jul 2012 #25

I think so too. Avalux Jul 2012 #38

I'm extremely concerned about our educational system ... spin Jul 2012 #46

Science is open to change when new information becomes available. The people who don't believe libinnyandia Jul 2012 #76

That "truth" that may not exist? MattBaggins Jul 2012 #64

Therein lies the problem derby378 Jul 2012 #75

DU needs an Objectivism forum. bananas Jul 2012 #13

Science doesn't teach us to do something about it. tinrobot Jul 2012 #20

That is true. I agree with you completely. Avalux Jul 2012 #23

Can you say objectively why the Big Bang happened? (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #22

Nope, not why. Avalux Jul 2012 #24

You only BELIEVE that science explains true rules. Kablooie Jul 2012 #27

Sorry I don't agree. Belief has nothing to do with it. n/t Avalux Jul 2012 #37

Insider Report on Big Pharma’s Corrupt Marketing and Phony Science HiPointDem Jul 2012 #30

I somewhat agree with this insider report.... Avalux Jul 2012 #36

Is it an objective truth that this planet needs a caretaker? GeorgeGist Jul 2012 #32

No it isn't. However....human beings have the ability to think and reason. Avalux Jul 2012 #34

I would reframe this as "Science is the Only Pramatic Truth" aikoaiko Jul 2012 #35

Pragmatic works too. Avalux Jul 2012 #39

Is the concept of human equality pragmatic? DirkGently Jul 2012 #94

Yes, I would say the concept of human equality is pragmatic. aikoaiko Jul 2012 #98

so according to you 100 degree weather and tornadoes hfojvt Jul 2012 #40

You've taken the liberty of making assumptions about me in your post. Avalux Jul 2012 #42

+ 10 | You beat me to it. man4allcats Jul 2012 #44

Yep. If you look at data over the past 30 years, there is definitely a worldwide trend. Avalux Jul 2012 #49

you didn't mention a worldwide trend hfojvt Jul 2012 #45

Sorry, you are dead wrong. Avalux Jul 2012 #47

it is tiring isn't it hfojvt Jul 2012 #55

What are you talking about? Avalux Jul 2012 #57

"Beauty is truth, truth beauty," - that is all Ye know on earth, and all ye need to know. Swede Jul 2012 #41

And I will say to that....science is beautiful. Avalux Jul 2012 #48

Given that some 70% of Americans believe that angels coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #50

Um, no. Viking12 Jul 2012 #51

Now now, don't hit and run, If you're going to say that as a counter to my post, explain. Avalux Jul 2012 #52

Philosphy 201: Epsitemic Systems Viking12 Jul 2012 #53

I am familiar with epsitemic philosophy and you still didn't answer me... Avalux Jul 2012 #54

There is no such thing as "objective truth"... you know what that statement sounds like? Warren DeMontague Jul 2012 #77

No! Magic underwear is the only TRUTH! randome Jul 2012 #62

What about a mothers intuition? 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #69

The most significant thing about the scientific method is hifiguy Jul 2012 #70

Nature is the only truth. longship Jul 2012 #78

What about math? THAT seems like the only real truth to me. FrodosPet Jul 2012 #79

MEASUREMENT is objective truth. Speck Tater Jul 2012 #81

Doesn't quantum physics say otherwise? DirkGently Jul 2012 #96

Oh, you're right, of course! Speck Tater Jul 2012 #99

Only applies to quantum physics Confusious Jul 2012 #102

GW deniers the same as Tobacco causes cancer deniers 30 years ago. ErikJ Jul 2012 #85

Utter nonsense. All observations are ultimately from our SUBJECTIVE P.O.V. The very subjects we Romulox Jul 2012 #95

Having worked at NIH for a few years deutsey Jul 2012 #100

These people going on about "ONLY truth!!!!" can't even define the word "truth"! Romulox Jul 2012 #106

What good is believing in the truth of global warming while supporting more arctic oil drilling, limpyhobbler Jul 2012 #101

I have a beautiful wife and two beautiful daughters. grantcart Jul 2012 #103

Are you confusing objective with subjective? JNelson6563 Jul 2012 #107

I have a beautiful wife and two beautiful daughters. grantcart Jul 2012 #103

I have a beautiful wife and two beautiful daughters. grantcart Jul 2012 #105

Amen! Zyzafyx Jul 2012 #108