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In reply to the discussion: If Trump ordered a nuclear missile attack on North Korea would the military carry it out? [View all]former9thward
(31,970 posts)158. If nuclear weapons were used in N. Korea they would be tactical not strategic.
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They would be localized low yield and low fallout strikes designed to get into the below ground N. Korean sites. No, the world would not come to an end. Russia and China would probably give a sigh of relief that their crazy uncle in the attic was no longer their problem.
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If Trump ordered a nuclear missile attack on North Korea would the military carry it out? [View all]
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2017
OP
I would tell you what you can do with your ad hominem attack but I don't want a hide.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2017
#13
I know what a rhetorical question, an ad hominem attack, and a pedant is.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2017
#29
I pretend people who disagree with me do so because they have no idea as well.
LanternWaste
May 2017
#123
The military would not be in the position of determining if THIS PARTICULAR ORDER was unlawful. It
WinkyDink
May 2017
#12
When was the last time some civilian authority decided a politician's military order was unlawful?
yurbud
May 2017
#132
Then why did Defense Secretary Schlesinger and Secretary Of State Kissinger place ...
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2017
#32
Your question did not ask, "IF the SoD and the SoS put limitations......" In any case, they acted
WinkyDink
May 2017
#54
I gave my audience the respect of believing they were capable of drawing logical inferences...
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2017
#64
Really? Because, as you've learned, your implications are insufficient for intelligent inferences.
WinkyDink
May 2017
#67
The verbal portion of the SAT and GRE must have been really hard on some people.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2017
#78
:-) I used to begin the year with asking the students if they could figure out this bit of OE:
WinkyDink
May 2017
#100
It is profoundly saddening you would join in insulting someone who has been unfailingly civil to you
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2017
#128
I wish I knew. My fear is that too many Americans either don't care or don't truly understand
Coventina
May 2017
#138
In normal times most folks don't think about politics. They just get on with their lives.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2017
#139
Agreed. And, I don't think most folk have grasped just how bad the situation is.
Coventina
May 2017
#140
This would make a great subject for an OP! You buried the lede in the comments though.
bettyellen
May 2017
#142
If we are going to get there we might as well get there soon thus leaving more time to repair...
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2017
#49
I understand all these caveats and that theoretically the president's powers in this area is ...
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2017
#61
The President's abso;ute power here is not theoretical; it is, in fact, ABSOLUTE. IT'S A SIMPLE
WinkyDink
May 2017
#68
The entire military structure, and ESPECIALLY the nuclear aspect, is built around NOT questioning.
Coventina
May 2017
#70
Yes, but there are still pre-set attack plans which the president calls like football plays
jberryhill
May 2017
#160
Yes. It is what they are trained to do. Would you prefer the military question the order, while
WinkyDink
May 2017
#9
Nice strawman. The assertion embodied in my question is the attack is out of the blue.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2017
#52
I think that's possible as a deflection, because we are not dealing with a sane individual. n/t
RKP5637
May 2017
#30
Exactly. This isn't some Tom Cruise movie we're living in. Don't kid yourself! Correct code? LAUNCH.
WinkyDink
May 2017
#14
I was told they would follow the orders because the system was designed for "speed and accuracy."
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2017
#17
You don't think they would make an exception considering the fact that Trump is clearly a madman?
smirkymonkey
May 2017
#26
Who would discuss this before he entered the codes? Could he be just alone one night and
RKP5637
May 2017
#35
My gut feeling, right or wrong, is this is just going to get more deranged relative to him
RKP5637
May 2017
#55
It would be up to Trump's inner circle to dissuade him from issuing the launch codes.
Coventina
May 2017
#47
"I am being told..." by whom? The deliberations are within the OO. "Out of the blue" is NOT FOR THE
WinkyDink
May 2017
#36
I was told in Post 15 there would be deliberations pursuant to the order.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2017
#39
You misread. The word used is "before," not the term "pursuant to." As in, the POTUS and advisors
WinkyDink
May 2017
#41
The assertion embodied in my question it the attack is out of the blue.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2017
#45
Yes, if the launch code targeting any of those countries were issued, it would be done.
Coventina
May 2017
#48
OMG. It wouldn't be "out of the blue" TO THE POTUS, FGS!! HE COULD DELIBERATE. Are you being
WinkyDink
May 2017
#65
I think the post-soviet-collapse euphoria may have obscured some realities.
AtheistCrusader
May 2017
#118
My husband served 22 years in the AF and is now a GS 12 at Hanscom, so kinda?
Blaukraut
May 2017
#43
Do you think he ever once seriously considered disobeying an order? For one single second?
WinkyDink
May 2017
#92
I have friends that are career military and career military spouses.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2017
#107
He had four children who served in the military. Three became officers.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2017
#117
PLEASE STAY WITH THE OP'S QUERY!! Nuremburg dealt with your post. Enough said.
WinkyDink
May 2017
#93
Most likely, yes. The people who would launch the missiles are sanitized from the decision making
berni_mccoy
May 2017
#22
No. People in the military aren't robots. The order would be stopped before it got to the silo
yurbud
May 2017
#27
Really? That would be "NO." Would YOU like to be the General who oversaw destruction because you
WinkyDink
May 2017
#40
That is not in the military's purview. I'm referring solely to the OP's query.
WinkyDink
May 2017
#86
I have known a fair number of military people including a couple of launch officers
yurbud
May 2017
#129
how would someone in the military not know that pretty quickly? Also, North Korea knows once they
yurbud
May 2017
#127
Well, for one thing, they can ask why he is still not impeached. See how that works?
WinkyDink
May 2017
#89
Okay, I've about had it. THE POWER OF THE PRESIDENT IN NUCLEAR LAUNCHES IS ABSOLUTE. READ ON:
WinkyDink
May 2017
#77
We elected Bush II, who set the 'no first use' idea aside for even terror attacks.
AtheistCrusader
May 2017
#121
Yes right after he and the republicans pass single payer health care for all Americans,
workinclasszero
May 2017
#134
"We" would likely still be around. But we would be living in an anarchic world.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2017
#152
We don't know how Russia and China would react to inbound nukes in their neck of the woods
jberryhill
May 2017
#153
I always try to find something human, even in my enemies/opponents.
DemocratSinceBirth
May 2017
#156
If nuclear weapons were used in N. Korea they would be tactical not strategic.
former9thward
May 2017
#158