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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
134. Yes right after he and the republicans pass single payer health care for all Americans,
Fri May 12, 2017, 01:05 PM
May 2017

legal MJ nationwide and a special prosecutor to investigate Dump's Russian connection and Comey's firing.

in case anybody didn't get the joke.

Yes jberryhill May 2017 #1
This isn't a rhetorical question. Are you sure? DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #4
The answer is yes. Act_of_Reparation May 2017 #8
I would tell you what you can do with your ad hominem attack but I don't want a hide. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #13
You apparently don't know what an ad hominem is, either. Act_of_Reparation May 2017 #18
I know what a rhetorical question, an ad hominem attack, and a pedant is. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #29
I pretend people who disagree with me do so because they have no idea as well. LanternWaste May 2017 #123
Wow. That's fascinating. Act_of_Reparation May 2017 #161
The military would not be in the position of determining if THIS PARTICULAR ORDER was unlawful. It WinkyDink May 2017 #12
When was the last time some civilian authority decided a politician's military order was unlawful? yurbud May 2017 #132
Are you joking? jberryhill May 2017 #20
Then why did Defense Secretary Schlesinger and Secretary Of State Kissinger place ... DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #32
Your question did not ask, "IF the SoD and the SoS put limitations......" In any case, they acted WinkyDink May 2017 #54
You could have asked me to elaborate. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #57
Sorry; you have something to say, express it as well as you can. WinkyDink May 2017 #60
I gave my audience the respect of believing they were capable of drawing logical inferences... DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #64
Really? Because, as you've learned, your implications are insufficient for intelligent inferences. WinkyDink May 2017 #67
The verbal portion of the SAT and GRE must have been really hard on some people. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #78
You don't want to go there, I assure you. WinkyDink May 2017 #80
Throw the corn in the water and you never know what bites DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #91
LOL!! Coventina May 2017 #98
:-) I used to begin the year with asking the students if they could figure out this bit of OE: WinkyDink May 2017 #100
That is cool!!!! Coventina May 2017 #110
It is profoundly saddening you would join in insulting someone who has been unfailingly civil to you DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #128
I apologize. I didn't mean to be piling on you. Coventina May 2017 #133
Thank you for your kind response. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #135
.. Coventina May 2017 #136
How does this end? DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #137
I wish I knew. My fear is that too many Americans either don't care or don't truly understand Coventina May 2017 #138
In normal times most folks don't think about politics. They just get on with their lives. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #139
Agreed. And, I don't think most folk have grasped just how bad the situation is. Coventina May 2017 #140
This would make a great subject for an OP! You buried the lede in the comments though. bettyellen May 2017 #142
Yes after praying to Jesus Christ DBoon May 2017 #88
No get the red out May 2017 #2
No IronLionZion May 2017 #3
So, at some point, do we have a coup? jberryhill May 2017 #46
If we are going to get there we might as well get there soon thus leaving more time to repair... DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #49
Which person on the submarine do you suppose will do that? jberryhill May 2017 #53
I understand all these caveats and that theoretically the president's powers in this area is ... DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #61
The President's abso;ute power here is not theoretical; it is, in fact, ABSOLUTE. IT'S A SIMPLE WinkyDink May 2017 #68
The entire military structure, and ESPECIALLY the nuclear aspect, is built around NOT questioning. Coventina May 2017 #70
I believe they have added a step or two. AtheistCrusader May 2017 #76
Good to know! Thanks! Coventina May 2017 #79
It's a matter of the POTUS's having the codes. PERIOD. WinkyDink May 2017 #82
Trust me, I get it. Coventina May 2017 #87
That's what I understand. defacto7 May 2017 #159
Yes, but there are still pre-set attack plans which the president calls like football plays jberryhill May 2017 #160
Have you discussed this with the Military Leadership personally? frankieallen May 2017 #126
I also thought Trump would lose the election in a historic landslide IronLionZion May 2017 #141
Perhaps one MFM008 May 2017 #5
I'm voting NO Goodheart May 2017 #6
I truly hope we do not have to learn the answer to that. MineralMan May 2017 #7
That's true treestar May 2017 #106
Yes. It is what they are trained to do. Would you prefer the military question the order, while WinkyDink May 2017 #9
Nice strawman. The assertion embodied in my question is the attack is out of the blue. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #52
Someone predicted Trump will start a war tomorrow. liberalmuse May 2017 #10
I think that's possible as a deflection, because we are not dealing with a sane individual. n/t RKP5637 May 2017 #30
After having visited the Titan Missile Museum in Tucson, I say yes. Coventina May 2017 #11
Exactly. This isn't some Tom Cruise movie we're living in. Don't kid yourself! Correct code? LAUNCH. WinkyDink May 2017 #14
Yep. Any discussion / debate takes place before the order is given. Coventina May 2017 #15
I was told they would follow the orders because the system was designed for "speed and accuracy." DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #17
I know a guy who was a navy nuclear launch officer jberryhill May 2017 #21
You don't think they would make an exception considering the fact that Trump is clearly a madman? smirkymonkey May 2017 #26
No jberryhill May 2017 #28
That ain't the way. Sorry. WinkyDink May 2017 #33
For much of the first part of Trump's 111 days in office AtheistCrusader May 2017 #72
Who would discuss this before he entered the codes? Could he be just alone one night and RKP5637 May 2017 #35
Well, that's the point jberryhill May 2017 #44
My gut feeling, right or wrong, is this is just going to get more deranged relative to him RKP5637 May 2017 #55
" It's far too much power in one person's hands. " jberryhill May 2017 #58
it's been our way FOR MANY DECADES. WinkyDink May 2017 #63
Deliberations with whom? jberryhill May 2017 #25
Deliberations were implied in Post 15 DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #37
It would be up to Trump's inner circle to dissuade him from issuing the launch codes. Coventina May 2017 #47
"I am being told..." by whom? The deliberations are within the OO. "Out of the blue" is NOT FOR THE WinkyDink May 2017 #36
I was told in Post 15 there would be deliberations pursuant to the order. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #39
You misread. The word used is "before," not the term "pursuant to." As in, the POTUS and advisors WinkyDink May 2017 #41
The assertion embodied in my question it the attack is out of the blue. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #45
Yes, if the launch code targeting any of those countries were issued, it would be done. Coventina May 2017 #48
But again you miss the point jberryhill May 2017 #50
Some small percentage will fail to launch. AtheistCrusader May 2017 #62
That's my understanding as well jberryhill May 2017 #115
OMG. It wouldn't be "out of the blue" TO THE POTUS, FGS!! HE COULD DELIBERATE. Are you being WinkyDink May 2017 #65
What's your point? DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #75
They would flatten Madagascar if so ordered. AtheistCrusader May 2017 #85
"It seems people have somewhat forgotten this terrible power exists." jberryhill May 2017 #116
I think the post-soviet-collapse euphoria may have obscured some realities. AtheistCrusader May 2017 #118
Wel, yeah... jberryhill May 2017 #125
That should be changed treestar May 2017 #71
Correct Cosmocat May 2017 #24
I agree workinclasszero May 2017 #51
At this point, no. He's clearly insane. Blaukraut May 2017 #16
Were you ever in the US Military? WinkyDink May 2017 #38
My husband served 22 years in the AF and is now a GS 12 at Hanscom, so kinda? Blaukraut May 2017 #43
Do you think he ever once seriously considered disobeying an order? For one single second? WinkyDink May 2017 #92
This particular disobedience would have been way above his pay grade Blaukraut May 2017 #95
See Post #77. SoD CANNOT VETO. WinkyDink May 2017 #99
Thank the both of you for your service to our country. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #102
No thanks necessary. Blaukraut May 2017 #105
I have friends that are career military and career military spouses. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #107
This is true Blaukraut May 2017 #111
He passed away. He was African American. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #113
He sounds like a wonderful person Blaukraut May 2017 #114
He had four children who served in the military. Three became officers. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #117
If you thought it an insane order treestar May 2017 #69
PLEASE STAY WITH THE OP'S QUERY!! Nuremburg dealt with your post. Enough said. WinkyDink May 2017 #93
You would not have the JOB if you thought that jberryhill May 2017 #119
at this point don't we know it means treestar May 2017 #146
Yes, but the point being.... jberryhill May 2017 #147
I hope to God not nt maryellen99 May 2017 #19
Most likely, yes. The people who would launch the missiles are sanitized from the decision making berni_mccoy May 2017 #22
It appears so. Kentonio May 2017 #23
No. People in the military aren't robots. The order would be stopped before it got to the silo yurbud May 2017 #27
The order goes from the black box to the silo jberryhill May 2017 #31
Really? That would be "NO." Would YOU like to be the General who oversaw destruction because you WinkyDink May 2017 #40
What if you know the current president operates on treestar May 2017 #74
That is not in the military's purview. I'm referring solely to the OP's query. WinkyDink May 2017 #86
I have known a fair number of military people including a couple of launch officers yurbud May 2017 #129
how would someone in the military not know that pretty quickly? Also, North Korea knows once they yurbud May 2017 #127
Yes. The nuclear launch process is about speed and verification only Lee-Lee May 2017 #34
I was surprised during the election at how few Trump supporters know this jberryhill May 2017 #56
I think most Americans are unaware of how our nuclear defenses work. Coventina May 2017 #59
If they know the President is nuts, what can they do? treestar May 2017 #73
Nothing Lee-Lee May 2017 #81
So once we elect an insane President treestar May 2017 #84
That's correct jberryhill May 2017 #120
Well, for one thing, they can ask why he is still not impeached. See how that works? WinkyDink May 2017 #89
Short answer- yes sarisataka May 2017 #42
They probably don't all want to die treestar May 2017 #66
During a nuclear attack or strike?! WinkyDink May 2017 #94
Well I guess work on that now? treestar May 2017 #103
Did you not know this before the election? jberryhill May 2017 #122
It seems the voters did not treestar May 2017 #145
Okay, I've about had it. THE POWER OF THE PRESIDENT IN NUCLEAR LAUNCHES IS ABSOLUTE. READ ON: WinkyDink May 2017 #77
Good luck! Coventina May 2017 #83
The mind boggles. As a CHILD, I got it, "taking cover" under my school desk. WinkyDink May 2017 #96
Too many movies. AtheistCrusader May 2017 #101
Well now we should change that treestar May 2017 #108
We elected Bush II, who set the 'no first use' idea aside for even terror attacks. AtheistCrusader May 2017 #121
Make them possible to use. treestar May 2017 #143
Indeed we should jberryhill May 2017 #124
Yes right after he and the republicans pass single payer health care for all Americans, workinclasszero May 2017 #134
We need to quit electing treestar May 2017 #144
Yes, as soon as he fired McMaster. kentuck May 2017 #90
No need to fire anyone. See post #77 for authoritative details. WinkyDink May 2017 #97
I listened to Gen. Michael Hayden on 'Morning Joe' discussing this. PearliePoo2 May 2017 #104
There are no checks on the president for nuclear Kablooie May 2017 #109
Yes, and besides Mike Pence would back it up. Jim Dandy May 2017 #112
I would say yes. nycbos May 2017 #130
No. And I don't believe he's been given the real nuclear codes. ElementaryPenguin May 2017 #131
I don't think it is possible to give him fake codes jberryhill May 2017 #148
What would the day after look like? DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #150
I doubt we'd know jberryhill May 2017 #151
"We" would likely still be around. But we would be living in an anarchic world. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #152
We don't know how Russia and China would react to inbound nukes in their neck of the woods jberryhill May 2017 #153
I thought about that. "We better nuke them before they nuke us." DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #154
I would not be so sure jberryhill May 2017 #155
I always try to find something human, even in my enemies/opponents. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #156
Yes they would. MicaelS May 2017 #149
not just based on trump himself JI7 May 2017 #157
If nuclear weapons were used in N. Korea they would be tactical not strategic. former9thward May 2017 #158
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