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Doctor_J

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17. It has completely broken down, due in large part

Thu Jul 5, 2012, 12:15 PM

Jul 2012

to the fact that whose who determine what is "within the law" are themselves criminals. If you look over the past 20 years and believe that the system is working, you need to re-orient your viewpoint.

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I am not advocating Violence [View all] cthulu2016 Jul 2012 OP

I think it's possible for the aristocracy to back off their looting just enough to rhett o rick Jul 2012 #1

I'm thinking that TARP was supposed to be that.... Wounded Bear Jul 2012 #2

TARP? That was just changing a flat tire on the loot-wagon. Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2012 #3

This message was self-deleted by its author bupkus Jul 2012 #28

And that is, to me, the heart of the difference between the parties cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #4

Exactly -- which is why true "change" will never actually come from the Democrats, either villager Jul 2012 #5

information is power if/when power derives from consent BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #7

So sweet of you to be willing to sacrifice...how many of us? aquart Jul 2012 #15

?? villager Jul 2012 #43

They don't have to Doctor_J Jul 2012 #11

The it-takes-both-carrot-and-stick theory is supported by the ending of the Viet Nam war AnotherMcIntosh Jul 2012 #6

A quick look at the last 20 years in the US should be a clue Doctor_J Jul 2012 #8

K&R RagAss Jul 2012 #9

This is why I reject pacifism. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #10

Violation of the social contract has only one pushback mechanism. lumberjack_jeff Jul 2012 #12

a pact which exceeds the natural rights of one of the co-contractors BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #21

What is your opinion of Gene Sharp, From Dictatorship to Democracy? Sirveri Jul 2012 #13

We have a pretty good system treestar Jul 2012 #14

It has completely broken down, due in large part Doctor_J Jul 2012 #17

It is still functioning treestar Jul 2012 #18

No, it's not Doctor_J Jul 2012 #25

Amen ! RagAss Jul 2012 #42

Erica Chenoweth has explored this question PETRUS Jul 2012 #16

I think her work is sort of side-ways to the question cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #19

Hiya PETRUS Jul 2012 #44

Do those figures include the founding of the United States? Zalatix Jul 2012 #30

Um, the header says 1900-2006 Doctor_J Jul 2012 #37

Rhetorical question Zalatix Jul 2012 #38

This message was self-deleted by its author BOG PERSON Jul 2012 #20

Odd thing for Cthulhu to say 4th law of robotics Jul 2012 #22

"The ultimate weakness of violence is that it is a descending spiral, Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #23

Yes, all of the bromides are in favor of pacifism Doctor_J Jul 2012 #24

Yeah, MLK was such a weak, bromide-spouting appeaser, wasn't he? Nye Bevan Jul 2012 #35

To recognize the effect of non-violent protest, take the two recent examples Doctor_J Jul 2012 #26

Historical note (that does not discredit your larger point): World War I coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #27

D'oh! I will probably not surprise you to know that cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #31

Civil disobedience. Zalatix Jul 2012 #29

Or to paraphrase Al Capone: a kind word and the threat of a gun. . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2012 #32

Pre-cisely! Check out reply #16 above cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #34

yer onto something. DCKit Jul 2012 #33

"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." - Albert Einstein GarroHorus Jul 2012 #36

"When the rich rob the poor, it's called business. When the poor fight back it's called violence." AJTheMan Jul 2012 #39

Putting aside all the rest of your historical inaccuracies & falsehoods in this laughable OP, apocalypsehow Jul 2012 #40

Gee, thanks. That's so awesome. cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #41

That's why the GOP needs to be destroyed BanTheGOP Jul 2012 #45