No. I don't know sny such thing (Reply #381)

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Tue Apr 25, 2017, 07:53 PM

Cary (11,719 posts)

381. No. I don't know sny such thing

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It would be nice if the centrists in this party did some introspection, too. [View all]	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	OP
Thank you.. but, you better put on your flak jacket...	pangaia	Apr 2017	#1
I know.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#2
Right on cue.. Flak jacket in place...	LakeArenal	Apr 2017	#32
The campaign was NOT run exactly as the "centrists" would have liked.	pnwmom	Apr 2017	#342
The caucuses had always been there.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#357
This message was self-deleted by its author	pnwmom	Apr 2017	#360
DanTex should be flattered.	NCTraveler	Apr 2017	#3
This message was self-deleted by its author	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#4
"Destructive"	NCTraveler	Apr 2017	#6
It was.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#11
It was not "destructive".	NCTraveler	Apr 2017	#12
I'm not speaking for you, I'm speaking for me.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#15
You spoke directly for me.	NCTraveler	Apr 2017	#17
OK...if I were to say I BELIEVE you and I basically agree, could you accept that?	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#20
This message was self-deleted by its author	NCTraveler	Apr 2017	#23
What do you mean by that?	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#25
So here I need to defend myself.	DanTex	Apr 2017	#34
Yep. ESPECIALLY Jill Stein. NO excuse whatsoever for ANYONE to support that ding-dong.	calimary	Apr 2017	#46
+1	padah513	Apr 2017	#128
No excuse whatsoever	Cary	Apr 2017	#133
Thanks for saying that.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#53
The good thing is that there is a lot we agree about.	DanTex	Apr 2017	#68
You were crystal clear	Cary	Apr 2017	#132
You did not make that at all clear in your OP	ProfessorPlum	Apr 2017	#158
The question is one of functionality	Cary	Apr 2017	#193
I want to understand what you are writing here	ProfessorPlum	Apr 2017	#194
Just an example	Cary	Apr 2017	#200
Everyone here supports Voting Democratic.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#237
Vote Democratic Ken!	Cary	Apr 2017	#248
I do-and it's not as simple as that.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#252
Or what?	Cary	Apr 2017	#256
Just stop.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#258
Vote Democratic!	Cary	Apr 2017	#261
You know I already do that.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#279
You are correct. All the negative crap.. When in fact Clinton won the popular vote.	LakeArenal	Apr 2017	#37
re: "The result in the fall wasn't entirely the fault of the 'far left'. "	thesquanderer	Apr 2017	#43
What the campaign didn't seem to be noticing	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#55
Are you comparing President Bill Clinton to donald trump in your last paragraph?	George II	Apr 2017	#65
My point is that his active presence in the race gave the Trump campaign the CHANCE	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#69
Despite your prostestations, President Bill Clinton was a huge asset during the campaign...	George II	Apr 2017	#77
re: " There was a great focus on her qualifications, but qualifications were not going to be enough"	thesquanderer	Apr 2017	#76
Very well put. n/t.	Scruffy1	Apr 2017	#120
President Clinton was a tremendous asset on the campaign.	WomenRising2017	Apr 2017	#86
I'm not excusing Trump.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#90
Why do you feel that Trump's misogyny should not be addressed?	WomenRising2017	Apr 2017	#92
Trump's misogyny was loathesome, but it was never going to gain us votes.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#97
Once again, the campaign was NOT based on misogyny,	WomenRising2017	Apr 2017	#100
I endorsed her in a thread I started on DU. I've been a registered Dem for years.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#105
I think the platform was plenty progressive. And I am not sure what she could have done, other	StevieM	Apr 2017	#225
"I probably would have tried to limit	lapucelle	Apr 2017	#259
Not only did the Clinton campaign put far too much emphasis on negative ads, but they didn't seem to	Midwestern Democrat	Apr 2017	#79
re: "ads did nothing more than say that Donald Trump is personally an awful human being."	thesquanderer	Apr 2017	#81
You hit the nail on the head	Kentonio	Apr 2017	#127
Not true.	kcr	Apr 2017	#264
I am really tired of the blame Dems first meme.	lark	Apr 2017	#164
Your snarkiness is just what we need..	LakeArenal	Apr 2017	#31
Yes, I believe we are a big tent. Not necessarily a big open tent.	NCTraveler	Apr 2017	#35
It was nasty, insulting and divisive	Warpy	Apr 2017	#40
Both can be true- HRC should have talked about ideas AND she was robbed	sharedvalues	Apr 2017	#108
I agree with all that you said there.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#109
Right - it's both. We need to care about the Russians	sharedvalues	Apr 2017	#112
Absolutely.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#116
No kidding. Without Comey, the election would have still been close.	Lucky Luciano	Apr 2017	#405
Well, I hope enough Democrats get into Congress that we CAN reform the media	Warpy	Apr 2017	#117
I don't know if you read The Daily Howler.	lapucelle	Apr 2017	#274
I heard LOTS of ideas. About women, about jobs, about universal health care coverage, college costs	ehrnst	Apr 2017	#131
I think so too	JustAnotherGen	Apr 2017	#7
DanTex really hit the mark	Gothmog	Apr 2017	#52
If "hitting the mark" means helping to keep the left divided. Yes, he did. nt	Gore1FL	Apr 2017	#71
Feelings hurt? Too bad	Gothmog	Apr 2017	#170
Why do you feel entitled to talk down to people?	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#236
I would venture to say that	Skidmore	Apr 2017	#260
I've talked down to no one in this thread.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#282
Yes you do but the fact that you are unaware of this is really amusing	Gothmog	Apr 2017	#293
They don't have an Indivisible chapter where I am.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#295
How is that possible?	Gothmog	Apr 2017	#307
I've proved to you that I work in the real world.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#308
You have proved nothing-Your posts speak for themselves	Gothmog	Apr 2017	#310
I've seen this Indivisible Evangelicalism before	bekkilyn	Apr 2017	#325
Please go out into the real world	Gothmog	Apr 2017	#291
Please stop accusing me of not being part of the real world.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#296
You may want to check the definitions of pragmatic and practical	Gothmog	Apr 2017	#311
Stop.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#314
That's the spirit! keep the party divided! Let's lose elections! Woo Hoo!	Gore1FL	Apr 2017	#318
so it's dantex that's running around bashing Democrats and embracing Trump voters?	synergie	Apr 2017	#316
He is certainly one of them, but in no way is he the only one.	Gore1FL	Apr 2017	#319
Introspection is an honorable word	Tom Rinaldo	Apr 2017	#5
"Thankfully it appears to me that our new DNC leadership team has no problem with it."	NCTraveler	Apr 2017	#8
I'm giving Tom a chance.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#10
"He's off to a good start."	NCTraveler	Apr 2017	#13
Why are you quoting everyone's responses to your posts like that?	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#14
Thankfully I'm not lashing out at the partys left.	NCTraveler	Apr 2017	#16
Good point, I'll take it :) n/t	Tom Rinaldo	Apr 2017	#19
I wasn't claiming that you were.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#21
The new DNC leadership didn't talk big ideas in KS-09	sharedvalues	Apr 2017	#110
Good point. I've found introspection a very useful tool in my own life.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#9
Too bad we can't upvote replies!	Docreed2003	Apr 2017	#38
During the last few days before the election	Bettie	Apr 2017	#18
Thank you.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#22
All the Trump voters I know were voting against Someone and Something.Lock her up!	delisen	Apr 2017	#47
Very well said ..	disillusioned73	Apr 2017	#24
INCOMING! n/t	Still In Wisconsin	Apr 2017	#26
"Every faction of this party treating each other with respect." I agree completely.	DanTex	Apr 2017	#27
So your analysis of the campaign is that	WomenRising2017	Apr 2017	#28
That's not what he said	OldRedneck	Apr 2017	#30
Read the second paragraph	WomenRising2017	Apr 2017	#39
Welcome to DU!	Raine1967	Apr 2017	#56
Thank you,	WomenRising2017	Apr 2017	#82
I was talking about the campaign's supporters, not the candidate.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#72
So you are critiquing supporters of the campaign, but not the campaign itself?	WomenRising2017	Apr 2017	#84
I'm not refighting the primaries.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#91
I'm not talking about the primaries, either.	WomenRising2017	Apr 2017	#94
You said I was posting this because my candidate didn't get nominated.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#107
There was a study done on the ad campaigns of Presidential candidates	bekkilyn	Apr 2017	#188
Thank you.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#253
Truth be told, it was difficult to turn her wide ranging platform	WomenRising2017	Apr 2017	#263
Oh come on	Kentonio	Apr 2017	#326
"DNC leaders say Hillary Clinton lost because she talked too much about Trump"	beam me up scottie	Apr 2017	#41
Out of interest, what state are you in?	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#61
I'm not sure how or why you have formed this opinion.	WomenRising2017	Apr 2017	#85
I accept that HRC won the primaries and I wanted her to win in the fall just as much as you did.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#89
Sharing your state or region is "personal information?	appal_jack	Apr 2017	#95
To me? Yes.	WomenRising2017	Apr 2017	#98
I wasn't asking out of any intent of trying to find you.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#122
Now that I think about the 2016 campaign . . .	OldRedneck	Apr 2017	#29
I recall Clinton looking positive and Trump muttering, Nasty woman.	delisen	Apr 2017	#49
There were some strategic mistakes made, I think.	Warren DeMontague	Apr 2017	#134
I agree with you.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#62
Exactly.	Scruffy1	Apr 2017	#119
Centrist on what? We were told it's the most liberal platform in party history	IronLionZion	Apr 2017	#33
Actually, we just retained those three states. None were gains from 2012.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#125
What policies are going to help win voters in the rural middle of America?	IronLionZion	Apr 2017	#138
An interventionist policy to subsidize high-wage jobs	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#141
Sounds expensive	IronLionZion	Apr 2017	#168
That could work but a lot of modern lefists honestly fetishize manufacturing	forjusticethunders	Apr 2017	#322
We have to have it as part of the vision, though.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#339
I agree and disagree	forjusticethunders	Apr 2017	#340
And I wasn't saying NEVER settle for increments.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#341
I agree certainly	forjusticethunders	Apr 2017	#343
The key, then, is to make sure that we aren't made to settle for JUST the small victories.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#344
About that path	DownriverDem	Apr 2017	#36
There Was a Slogan That Irritated Me to Pieces	Leith	Apr 2017	#42
I thought we should have gone with "Trump Loves Hate".	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#58
Interesting but you are forgetting Clinton won.	delisen	Apr 2017	#44
No. She had more votes. Trump won. THAT is exactly the problem.	davsand	Apr 2017	#54
I don't think her strategy was the problem. How did Trump defeat all those Republicans	delisen	Apr 2017	#66
"Takeover" is a very loaded term.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#74
"Nobody on the left is....."	delisen	Apr 2017	#80
No significant number of people want to turn the party into her or his own personal cult.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#93
I acknowledge that she prevailed in the popular vote total.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#70
Let's unify for the Right to Vote Without Interference from Voter Suppression	delisen	Apr 2017	#45
There's no conflict between doing that-which we ALL agree with-	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#111
Unity through Respect - I can support that.	NoMoreRepugs	Apr 2017	#48
It would be nice if someone said something positive about this party.	George II	Apr 2017	#50
OK. We had a pretty good platform	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#57
We have good leaders coming up the ranks, particularly from the West Coast.	Warren DeMontague	Apr 2017	#59
Agreed.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#63
That's the way to say something positive about the party, aka the Democratic Party!	George II	Apr 2017	#73
Which I also did in post #57	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#113
Democratic candidates in general are vastly more knowledgeable about	delisen	Apr 2017	#67
We just simply care about humanity...air...water...etc., etc., etc.... nt	Heartstrings	Apr 2017	#101
+ a million or so! eom	BlueMTexpat	Apr 2017	#150
Quote from Jim Hightower	YOHABLO	Apr 2017	#51
He should give advice, huh?	wyldwolf	Apr 2017	#64
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++	still_one	Apr 2017	#78
In some ways, this is like herding cats.	alarimer	Apr 2017	#60
The reason we have conflict is:	Cary	Apr 2017	#75
I do work for that.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#99
You live in a democracy	Cary	Apr 2017	#126
That's simply not true.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#129
You have a right to sow discord and discontent	Cary	Apr 2017	#130
I advocate voting Democratic just as much as you do and I've proved it.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#136
Defensive	Cary	Apr 2017	#139
I do vote Democratic.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#142
Defensive	Cary	Apr 2017	#184
This strategy...	tonedevil	Apr 2017	#213
I'm happy for you	Cary	Apr 2017	#214
Post removed	Post removed	Apr 2017	#215
I'm from Chicago	Cary	Apr 2017	#216
Ken-your analysis does not work in the real world	Gothmog	Apr 2017	#229
I live in the real world just as much as you do.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#234
How do you define "radical leftist"?	Exilednight	Apr 2017	#137
I want Democrats to win	Cary	Apr 2017	#140
So do the rest of us.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#143
By that logic, if Donald Trump switched to beimg a Democrat you'd be happy.	Exilednight	Apr 2017	#144
Can't wait for the response to THAT one:	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#147
This is the problem.	Exilednight	Apr 2017	#171
+1!	KPN	Apr 2017	#207
That's rich	Cary	Apr 2017	#218
Slogans and memes aren't debate, no matter how many times you repeat them.	Exilednight	Apr 2017	#219
Why is it so important to you to change the subject to me?	Cary	Apr 2017	#221
It's not important to me. I'm just pointing out your hypocrisy.	Exilednight	Apr 2017	#223
As long as you express your obsession with me...	Cary	Apr 2017	#232
Obsession with you?	Exilednight	Apr 2017	#233
You change the subject to me, personally	Cary	Apr 2017	#240
And yet you keep reacting.	Exilednight	Apr 2017	#249
You don't have a subject.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#280
FWIW	Cary	Apr 2017	#242
It's not worth anything.	Exilednight	Apr 2017	#250
Is that supposed to bother me?	Cary	Apr 2017	#251
And I've seen you post this low brow schtick a million times.	Exilednight	Apr 2017	#273
Why is it so important to you to equate disagreement with lack of party loyalty?	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#254
Have no idea what you're babbling about	Cary	Apr 2017	#255
You don't need to keep telling me that.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#266
How do you know?	Cary	Apr 2017	#268
If they didn't, they'd have been kicked out of here long ago.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#269
I am absolutely entitled to express my opnion	Cary	Apr 2017	#272
It's true, Ken. Cary is entitled to express his/her opinion.	Exilednight	Apr 2017	#275
If he were actually expressing an opinion, I'd agree.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#283
Thanks	Cary	Apr 2017	#287
You are entitled to express your opinion	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#278
Dude	Cary	Apr 2017	#286
Why did you feel compelled to come to this thread and disrupt?	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#299
Ha!	Cary	Apr 2017	#288
You identify with "Otto" in that movie?	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#297
Vote Democratic Ken	Cary	Apr 2017	#303
Stop accusing me of NOT voting Democratic	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#304
Dammit Ken	Cary	Apr 2017	#305
LOL	SunSeeker	Apr 2017	#313
Donald Trump didn't run as a Democrat	Cary	Apr 2017	#182
Reread my post. I never said anything about him running as one.	Exilednight	Apr 2017	#186
Which part of "not going down your rabbit hole" don't you understsnd?	Cary	Apr 2017	#187
I'm offering to debate an issue. You're the one who refused.	Exilednight	Apr 2017	#195
"... then you will not even stand by the courage of your convictions..."	Cary	Apr 2017	#201
You're the one who put the term on the table.	Exilednight	Apr 2017	#202
Vote Democratic!	Cary	Apr 2017	#205
That group of	H2O Man	Apr 2017	#365
OPs like this do cause conflict	BannonsLiver	Apr 2017	#244
And if it wasn't the 2016 election	Cary	Apr 2017	#245
I have no doubts	BannonsLiver	Apr 2017	#246
Exactly	Cary	Apr 2017	#247
Agreed	colsohlibgal	Apr 2017	#83
You should work that into an OP.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#114
Good stuff ...libgal!	KPN	Apr 2017	#208
Exactly who ..	NanceGreggs	Apr 2017	#87
exactly, and i have said there is a reason they feel the need to always scream about how left,	JI7	Apr 2017	#96
OK...in this case, I'm defining the "centrists" not as people who simply disagree with me	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#103
How nice of you to decide ...	NanceGreggs	Apr 2017	#118
If you're hidden, it won't be by me.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#121
The conservatives have controlled the message for several decades, it is they not the party who	PoliticalPie	Apr 2017	#88
I did that.	metroins	Apr 2017	#102
Thank you for the positive message in your post.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#106
Who are you thinking of when you say "centrist?"	fleabiscuit	Apr 2017	#104
It's not about naming individuals(which would be against site rules)	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#115
Ken , I agree with everything you wrote in the OP	ProfessorPlum	Apr 2017	#123
Thanks.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#124
LOL	betsuni	Apr 2017	#135
People that continue to bash progressives for not being	ProfessorPlum	Apr 2017	#157
LOL!	betsuni	Apr 2017	#161
You are just full of mirth	ProfessorPlum	Apr 2017	#163
The only time corporations are running our government is when Republicans are in charge.	betsuni	Apr 2017	#165
Oh you beautiful, naive child	ProfessorPlum	Apr 2017	#166
Oh, projection!	betsuni	Apr 2017	#167
You seem to have forgotten the Nineties.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#169
What was the origin of NAFTA? Please provide links to prove it was Bill Clinton's idea	betsuni	Apr 2017	#173
It was negotiated before him, and there was no good reason for him to fight for it.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#175
You seem to be terrible at using the Googlemachine	ProfessorPlum	Apr 2017	#185
I asked you to give it to me. Why should I believe you that Clinton pushed like hell to do anything?	betsuni	Apr 2017	#189
You never asked me at all.	ProfessorPlum	Apr 2017	#190
Does this mean we're breaking up?	betsuni	Apr 2017	#191
that is a very very simplified way of looking at things. You have to know this? There is way too	JCanete	Apr 2017	#238
+1,000,000,000,000,000,000	HughBeaumont	Apr 2017	#181
Fantastic post	ProfessorPlum	Apr 2017	#183
And how do we be inclusive of Christians who voted against the poor, old, kids and etc.	elehhhhna	Apr 2017	#145
I'm not sure you can do anything with those folks.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#146
The only problem I have with this is that I believe in evidence....	vi5	Apr 2017	#148
+1 good definition	bekkilyn	Apr 2017	#199
While I do appreciate the frustration with the centrism I have an alternative theory:	forjusticethunders	Apr 2017	#323
Could help to explain why there are so many people registered Independent now	bekkilyn	Apr 2017	#324
OFFS!	Foamfollower	Apr 2017	#149
I'm neither refitting nor refighting the primaries.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#154
By law, a Green was not part of the Dem primary.	davsand	Apr 2017	#224
By STUIDITY, many who participated in the Democratic Primaries voted Green in the GE.	Foamfollower	Apr 2017	#228
Purely on a numeric basis, the non-vote was larger.	davsand	Apr 2017	#241
Every election, somebody says "go after the non-voters!"	Foamfollower	Apr 2017	#243
Maybe this will illuminate the discussion a bit?	davsand	Apr 2017	#257
And I don't see that you've made any point whatsoever	Foamfollower	Apr 2017	#267
People say "go after the non-voters!" but the party never does.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#270
Non-voters NEVER vote.	Foamfollower	Apr 2017	#271
It had nothing to do with either Nixon term.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#277
I'm a New Yorker who spent weekends in PA	lapucelle	Apr 2017	#276
I was phonebanking in Olympia, and we made calls all over the country.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#285
And I thank you for what you did.	lapucelle	Apr 2017	#292
I am aware of all that you said	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#294
People should join a party because they believe in what it stands for	Progressive dog	Apr 2017	#151
Yes, negative ads have worked-but almost never for OUR side.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#153
I don't believe that undecided voters	Progressive dog	Apr 2017	#156
That's not true either. The negative ads Obama ran against Romney, painting him	DanTex	Apr 2017	#159
The polls never showed any increases in HRC's support after those ads.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#160
That means nothing. The question is whether her numbers were better	DanTex	Apr 2017	#162
The stated intent of the campaign in running the ads was to try to get the apparently mythical	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#281
You're acting like the negative ads were her entire campaign. Not even close.	DanTex	Apr 2017	#289
She barely mentioned the platform in the ads and on the stump only talked about	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#315
What you are saying is factually incorrect.	DanTex	Apr 2017	#317
It's not as simple as the wage thing.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#329
Of course not, the wage thing is just an example.	DanTex	Apr 2017	#332
Racism played a role with a lot of Trump voters...but that doesn't account for all of them.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#333
I just don't see evidence to support your view of Trump voters.	DanTex	Apr 2017	#337
I didn't say that NO Trump voters are driven by racism	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#338
Agree. Totally.	murielm99	Apr 2017	#220
I agree with you	get the red out	Apr 2017	#152
Perhaps a minor point but	thucythucy	Apr 2017	#155
Still fighting the primaries with different tactics	LanternWaste	Apr 2017	#172
Critiquing the fall campaign is not refighting the primaries.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#177
There's only 1 introspection needed from everyone	vlyons	Apr 2017	#174
amen nt	steve2470	Apr 2017	#176
I well recall the disdain . .	FairWinds	Apr 2017	#178
The path to unity and winning is telling the truth	randr	Apr 2017	#179
thank you for truth	heaven05	Apr 2017	#180
nothing would persaude the anti-hillary forces who made it clear seeing trump in the whitehouse was	beachbum bob	Apr 2017	#192
DURec	leftstreet	Apr 2017	#196
The Dem campaign pros have a sorry history, and we clearly need new ones	Fast Walker 52	Apr 2017	#197
Well said. The...	zentrum	Apr 2017	#198
The path to unity is not a silly set of platforms	Gothmog	Apr 2017	#203
You have no reason to accuse me of not living in the real world.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#265
Your posts speak for themselves	Gothmog	Apr 2017	#290
A person can live in the real world without believing that this party HAS to be centrist.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#302
Your posts speak for themselves	Gothmog	Apr 2017	#306
I've been working in real-world politics all my life.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#327
I am disagreeing strongly with your amusing suggestions for remaking the party into sanders image	Gothmog	Apr 2017	#330
If you disagree with what I and a lot of others call for, fine.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#331
Ken your proposals scream that you have no idea as to what is going on in the real world	Gothmog	Apr 2017	#345
I have. Where I was and am, most people in the party agree with me.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#346
Your proposals are flawed and cry out that you have not work in the real world	Gothmog	Apr 2017	#347
If you disagree with what I've suggested, just say WHY you do.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#348
Ken-I found a candidate for you	Gothmog	Apr 2017	#349
I already support Beto	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#350
Send Beto your platform-there must be some more unrealistic planks he can used	Gothmog	Apr 2017	#351
What is so silly about anything I've supported?	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#353
Again you posts speak for themselves	Gothmog	Apr 2017	#354
You just pointed out that the polls show Beto in a dead heat against Cruz	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#355
Castro is polling far better	Gothmog	Apr 2017	#370
There's not that much difference between a dead heat and a six point lead	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#372
If Beto is in a dead heat with Cruz, a month after declaring his candidacy	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#359
Castro is a stronger candidate compared to Beto	Gothmog	Apr 2017	#369
I stand corrected on the "Beto" thing.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#371
I don't understand how this is centerist	Bradical79	Apr 2017	#204
smart observations +++	JHan	Apr 2017	#226
It is pretty clear that a lot of people do not recognize what cost HRC the election.	tonyt53	Apr 2017	#206
And addressing working-class voters(it's not about "white working-class" voters,	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#301
Ah, but it IS about "white working class"	NastyRiffraff	Apr 2017	#373
What, exactly, do you think WHITE working-class voters want	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#379
What they want...	NastyRiffraff	Apr 2017	#390
Bernie himself is not defending any of the white supremacist aspects in what you said there.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#391
I didn't say Sanders was a white supremecist	NastyRiffraff	Apr 2017	#399
All I can say is that that doesn't represent the perspective of any of the Sanders supporters	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#402
I decided to log in so I could give you "rec" number 100!	m-lekktor	Apr 2017	#209
If you're still reading this...thanks.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#298
Don't blame the Centrists	OldSchoolLiberal	Apr 2017	#210
Great OP Ken!	KPN	Apr 2017	#211
Party unity, not uniformity. Utilitarian Unity. Doing the greatest good for the greatest number.	ancianita	Apr 2017	#212
Exactly!	B Stieg	Apr 2017	#217
This life-long liberal Democrat has done some introspection	Expecting Rain	Apr 2017	#222
who are those? nt	JCanete	Apr 2017	#239
OP claims need respect but only shames; says introspection "too" - who else has???	Justice	Apr 2017	#227
The OP'S feelings were hurt and so he was lashing out	Gothmog	Apr 2017	#230
Pretty much.	PragmaticLiberal	Apr 2017	#231
My feelings are not hurt and you have no reason to condescend to me.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#235
Some gentle advice: maybe you should stop the OPs	Justice	Apr 2017	#262
This is the OP's shtick.	SaschaHM	Apr 2017	#309
I know-the OP's feelings get hurt easily	Gothmog	Apr 2017	#312
Very observant. You're absolutely correct.	NurseJackie	Apr 2017	#300
I don't defend third-party voting.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#334
This message was self-deleted by its author	NurseJackie	Apr 2017	#335
LOL	NurseJackie	Apr 2017	#336
I spent a lot of the fall trying to persuade people to our left to vote HRC.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#356
Oh, Ken! LOL!	NurseJackie	Apr 2017	#358
What's there to laugh about in my response?	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#361
Ha! :-D	NurseJackie	Apr 2017	#362
It does make sense.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#364
LOL	NurseJackie	Apr 2017	#366
When I said I don't defend third-party voting you posted "LOL!" in response.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#367
Yes I did. So, what?	NurseJackie	Apr 2017	#368
There was nothing ridiculous about what I said.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#376
Nobody said that. Who said "ridiculous"? Go on... tell me. Who?	NurseJackie	Apr 2017	#380
Where's my apology, Ken?	NurseJackie	Apr 2017	#382
What do I owe you an apology for?	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#384
You made false accusations about me.	NurseJackie	Apr 2017	#386
I did no such thing.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#387
No, I laughed because you misread post 300 and started defending yourself against an imagined insult	NurseJackie	Apr 2017	#388
So, you did accuse me of lying when I said I don't defend third-party votes.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#392
LOL	NurseJackie	Apr 2017	#394
Vote Democratic Ken	Cary	Apr 2017	#374
You already know that I do,	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#378
No. I don't know sny such thing	Cary	Apr 2017	#381
You have no reason to doubt that I do.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#385
Thou dost protesteth too much	Cary	Apr 2017	#389
I vote Democratic	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#393
Post removed	Post removed	Apr 2017	#395
Stop excusing me of NOT voting Democratic	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#396
Exactly. If it couldn't work against Trump, the centrist tactic is dead.	Barack_America	Apr 2017	#284
The fall campaign was run very well...	Orsino	Apr 2017	#320
The core problem here is:	forjusticethunders	Apr 2017	#321
I acknowledge that the Sanders campaign had failings in its expression on that.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#328
The faction of the party that endorsed Tim Ryan, Heath mello and tulsi	La Lioness Priyanka	Apr 2017	#352
I haven't endorsed Tulsi, and I didn't endorse Heath Mello.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#398
Did I say you? Or did I say faction?	La Lioness Priyanka	Apr 2017	#400
It was unclear who you were including in the faction.	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#401
A lot of people are building a cult, far bigger than the tiny amount	La Lioness Priyanka	Apr 2017	#403
The vast majority of those who still support the values of the Sanders campaign	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#404
Voting Against Something Never Triumphs Over Voting For Something.	lovemydogs	Apr 2017	#363
I did my I introspection	Cary	Apr 2017	#375
We can't win without the Left	Ken Burch	Apr 2017	#397
Stop trying to elect centrists or watch your civil rights bargained away by the Neoliberals	pecosbob	Apr 2017	#377
I'd be happy if some on the right would move toward the center	BainsBane	Apr 2017	#383

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