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Bozvotros

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33. Medicare is nuts too.

Sun Mar 26, 2017, 07:06 PM

Mar 2017

There's no reason to have four parts to Medicare. Part A just covers hospitalization. Why did we decide to prioritize only hospital payment with our payroll deduction? Why isn't major medical and pharmaceutical costs part of our Medicare deduction during our working years? I'm sure there's a very good reason that doesn't involve lobbying by hospitals, big pharma and insurance companies. Or blood sucking parasitic vermin. But I repeat myself.

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Why are Americans so resistant to Universal Healthcare? [View all] Heartstrings Mar 2017 OP

They are brainwashed and too lazy to investigate facts for themselves. nikibatts Mar 2017 #1

Makes me craaaazy!!! Heartstrings Mar 2017 #2

True. ...and they are too afraid of the truth to investigate the facts. It challenges their values. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #62

For a long time canetoad Mar 2017 #3

It's "socialized medicine," & the RW says it's evil, though Alice11111 Mar 2017 #58

Mindless hyperpartisanship that has become Hortensis Mar 2017 #82

an ugly truth DonCoquixote Mar 2017 #4

Good post. Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #6

No offense and thanks for the insight! Heartstrings Mar 2017 #8

Good analysis. Mendocino Mar 2017 #15

Very good and thoughtful post. mountain grammy Mar 2017 #20

Provocative, in a good way. Thx Alice11111 Mar 2017 #59

Well said. K&R (eom) CanSocDem Mar 2017 #96

Well Stated.... Must be a History Major WiffenPoof Mar 2017 #104

The magic word is taxes. So many people have become convinced that paying taxes Arkansas Granny Mar 2017 #5

And this while taking your Sculpin Beauregard Mar 2017 #29

Republicans love to kill things - it curtails their "fun"... n/m bagelsforbreakfast Mar 2017 #7

They think it IS fun! Like Paul Ryan admitted after the Ryancare bill was withdrawn...they have been Alice11111 Mar 2017 #60

Because FOX NEWS TOLD THEM it was evil!! yuiyoshida Mar 2017 #9

Yes. This. GoCubsGo Mar 2017 #28

!!! Alice11111 Mar 2017 #61

It's not just using your taxes to pay for a little boy to get a heart transplant LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2017 #10

Because they don't want to share anything with THOSE people. Thor_MN Mar 2017 #11

This entire country was founded on distrust of government. Agschmid Mar 2017 #12

Distrust of the throne and parliament was neither the catalyst nor the reason. LanternWaste Mar 2017 #97

It cannot pass the corrupt congress. JustABozoOnThisBus Mar 2017 #13

Three reasons: (1) propaganda works, and they are relentlessness propagandized with the most tblue37 Mar 2017 #14

Because it levels the playing field, treating all, including the elite equally.... Historic NY Mar 2017 #16

Yes, blasphemy. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #63

The ones who oppose it think it will lead to worse care oberliner Mar 2017 #17

Another question - why do we have healthcare for profit in this country? smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #18

No brainer, the health insurance industry. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #70

Should doctors and nurses be public employees? HoneyBadger Mar 2017 #78

redumbliCONs have spent the last two decades bad mouthing every other democratisphere Mar 2017 #19

Because, when Dems were fighting, and I mean fighting, mountain grammy Mar 2017 #21

You pay the same for health insurance either way you cut it elias7 Mar 2017 #22

Spite. nt LaydeeBug Mar 2017 #23

Because ultimately, the right-wing faction believes some people deserve to die. Tatiana Mar 2017 #24

They've been told the countries with universal healthcare Mariana Mar 2017 #25

Yes, this and waiting forever to see a doctor radical noodle Mar 2017 #50

Because the "S" word--socialism has been misrepresented ismnotwasm Mar 2017 #26

Selfishness mainly Freddie Mar 2017 #27

Because just about everything they "know" is a lie, half truth or irrelevancy. Bozvotros Mar 2017 #30

Medicare eligible as of 1-1-2017 Heartstrings Mar 2017 #32

Medicare is nuts too. Bozvotros Mar 2017 #33

I'm on Medicare radical noodle Mar 2017 #52

Plan F is a Medicare Supplement,which many people can't afford, when paying for Plan D and Rxs Alice11111 Mar 2017 #72

It is more expensive because it pays everything radical noodle Mar 2017 #74

I have it too. BCBS Alice11111 Mar 2017 #83

You are a perfect example of how healthcare can go so wrong radical noodle Mar 2017 #98

They are actually better, thank you. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #99

Sorry for your friend. The pretence that she can do that Alice11111 Mar 2017 #101

Good points. It is like a sick game to figure out. Then, it's got cha, you got the wrong one. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #71

Medicare is adequate, but far too complicated HoneyBadger Mar 2017 #79

Although status quo is insane it still works for a lot of people Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2017 #31

Of course it is. Bozvotros Mar 2017 #35

The question is why are Americans collectively so hesitant Sen. Walter Sobchak Mar 2017 #49

The selling point is that you are human and that it is fair for everyone to have the same HoneyBadger Mar 2017 #81

Good point. I think of it often. Many Repubs have govt Alice11111 Mar 2017 #84

Yeah, I think this is much bigger than some of the pop-sociology reasons that have been offered. cemaphonic Mar 2017 #80

Americans are largely belligerent, hateful, stupid racists The Big Ragu Mar 2017 #34

Well, that was blunt. However, true. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #64

They don't believe healthcare to be a right. QED Mar 2017 #36

Because some people consider themselves "macho" BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #37

I'm not sure of the "built on" arguement... LakeArenal Mar 2017 #38

Canadas founding was not that much different than us. Jim Beard Mar 2017 #42

Brainwashing about "socialism" milestogo Mar 2017 #39

It's because they don't want to subsidize the expenses of the costliest patients Calculating Mar 2017 #40

They do get livid Bozvotros Mar 2017 #44

We're already taxed to pay for expensive healthcare Mariana Mar 2017 #66

That's a classic masturbatory myth that is deliberately promoted by greedy pyschopaths Azathoth Mar 2017 #68

still it could happen to them treestar Mar 2017 #107

because many see it as taking from them to give to those less deserving JI7 Mar 2017 #41

Yep loyalsister Mar 2017 #43

Welfare queens in Cadillacs. moondust Mar 2017 #45

Because if they get it, people they dislike and resent might get it, too. Can't have that. n/t Different Drummer Mar 2017 #46

It's because we delusionally self-mythologize our country and supposed 'exceptionalism' TransitJohn Mar 2017 #47

Yes, I agree. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #67

Where's your proof that Americans are resistant to it? leftstreet Mar 2017 #48

A very good question. I know there are right-wingers who are against it when in fact raccoon Mar 2017 #89

Ignorance. H2O Man Mar 2017 #51

Funny that people don't react to mandated cilla4progress Mar 2017 #53

What is really sad is that these fucking bastards that say no to single payer Doreen Mar 2017 #54

absolutely gopiscrap Mar 2017 #55

Well said. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #65

Socialist Equals Communist Bayard Mar 2017 #56

For sure! This time go in for the kill. Done with making nice, while the Iagos do us in. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #73

I got mine so fuck you Azathoth Mar 2017 #57

The ones I know do see it that way...fear of the people who couldnt get in the Titanic life boats. Alice11111 Mar 2017 #69

I really like the Titanic analogy.... Heartstrings Mar 2017 #85

Fake News Jarqui Mar 2017 #75

Conservatives are scared to death they won't get that transplant Warpy Mar 2017 #76

They love universal health care HoneyBadger Mar 2017 #77

You have a point -- "Medicare for all" is probably an easier sale to white wingers than "univeral Hoyt Mar 2017 #86

Many fear they will be worse off than before, or fear the cost. Yo_Mama Mar 2017 #87

"Why shud Ah pay fer blaks 'n Mezz'kins in-shurince?" VOX Mar 2017 #88

Sadly, it's not JUST "blaks n Mezz'kins" . . . HughBeaumont Mar 2017 #92

Absolutely true... VOX Mar 2017 #106

A lot of reasons ck4829 Mar 2017 #90

DMV ryan_cats Mar 2017 #91

Greed, political bias, and lack of compassion. Many people liquid diamond Mar 2017 #93

freedom... Demonaut Mar 2017 #94

Too many Americans refuse to support anything that might help another person. LonePirate Mar 2017 #95

Basically, I think it comes down to clever PR DFW Mar 2017 #100

Publicly funded insurance works the same way as privately funded, ronnie624 Mar 2017 #102

Why don't we say Medicare for all. There is no ambiguity what that means still_one Mar 2017 #103

"All for one, and that ONE is ME!" HughBeaumont Mar 2017 #105

The can afford healthcare sellitman Mar 2017 #108