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In reply to the discussion: You didn't get a public option or you didn't get single payer and now your pissed. [View all]sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)25. Sigh! Wrong:
The thing I see about those who say they don't like the mandate but want a public option or single payer is that they seem to think that they won't have to pay for the public option or single payer.
It looks like what they really want is a free ride. They won't come out and admit it but the thinking is that "I am well so why should I have to buy insurance?"
It looks like what they really want is a free ride. They won't come out and admit it but the thinking is that "I am well so why should I have to buy insurance?"
Please stop spreading these Right Wing talking points here. It is insulting to Democrats who have long had to argue against this false attack on the poor from the Right. I don't come here to have to see it here.
There was an article recently that dealt with advice given to President Obama on how to push the Mandate which he opposed in the Campaign. He was advised to use this right wing talking point, to demonize the poor, to create anger among people who are able to afford to pay for premiums.
Fyi, and I am so sick and tired of repeating this, we Democrats, know that nothing is FREE. Do you understand that?
What we are aiming for and always have been, is a system similar to SS, as they have in every other civilized country in the world, where we take care of the most vulnerable among us, as a decent society does, by paying into a system that works for everyone.s
Are you against a National HC system btw? The fact that you used those vile, right wing talking points distracted me and I am not really sure what you are advocating.
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You didn't get a public option or you didn't get single payer and now your pissed. [View all]
upaloopa
Jun 2012
OP
Quit with right wing talking points bull shit already! You think doctors shouldn't make a profit?
upaloopa
Jun 2012
#3
wadsworth dragged me on another one of his blasted safaris. i can't stand the heat
dionysus
Jul 2012
#90
Not if it means that people have to die because the PRICES of the medical care and drugs
rocktivity
Jun 2012
#19
I totally agree. A progressive tax to fund health care would be the perfect funding solution.
Zorra
Jun 2012
#15
Thanks! That's great! I know the RW trolls that are reading this must totally hate this fact,
Zorra
Jul 2012
#88
The individual mandate was THEIR IDEA. How can there be people who still do NOT know this?
Poll_Blind
Jun 2012
#64
Then why did they propose it less than two weeks after the President was elected? (LINK)
Poll_Blind
Jun 2012
#69
some people in canada, probably the richie riches, buy private insurance to supplement the govt plan
dionysus
Jul 2012
#81
I love the ACA overall, I only hate the mandate, I vastly prefer to PAY TAXES into Medicare for All.
Zalatix
Jun 2012
#56
Everyone is not covered and everyone does not have the freedom to move ...
slipslidingaway
Jun 2012
#45
With ACA anynbody who can't afford insurance but shows too much income on paper
limpyhobbler
Jul 2012
#76
"Does it really matter if an insurance company or the government provides the coverage
rocktivity
Jun 2012
#16
Dear Skinner, et al- PLEASE bring back "Un-rec", if ONLY for this single OP!?!?!
stlsaxman
Jun 2012
#22
Bah, who cares. Unrec or no unrec, we can still speak our opinions. Or even trash the thread.
Zalatix
Jun 2012
#58
What free lunch is to be had from Single Payer, a public option, or an NHS?
TheKentuckian
Jun 2012
#24
Single payer is by definition a "free lunch" for any who never pays taxes.
banned from Kos
Jun 2012
#40
Broke people that need a free lunch, working to middle class families with children
TheKentuckian
Jul 2012
#73
Jeez, I'm guessing you're under 18 and completely unaware of how healthcare is run.
FarLeftFist
Jun 2012
#35
The most logical explanation is that the President got EXACTLY what he fought for. No more, no less.
Romulox
Jun 2012
#68
Well, we might as well conjecture that Martians intervened, if all speculation is equally plausible.
Romulox
Jul 2012
#74
Appeal to authority notwithstanding, you have no evidence for your claim. All known evidence is to
Romulox
Jul 2012
#91
Oh dear. "Appeal to authority" is one of the "logical fallacies"; it has a specific meaning, and
Romulox
Jul 2012
#95
So you think that every time someone says that they know what they're talking about it's
Cary
Jul 2012
#96
This: "A former law partner of mine was a United States Senator" is an appeal to authority.
Romulox
Jul 2012
#98
Laugh until milk comes out your nose; a lawyer shouldn't be proud of being ignorant of the rules of
Romulox
Jul 2012
#106
The OP is a nonsensical swipe a Straw Man; nobody thinks Single Payer is free. nt
Romulox
Jun 2012
#67
no one wants "free" health care (maybe a few dolts, not many). single payer\public option
dionysus
Jul 2012
#80
They could bring costs down with that money, insure more people, and help employer be more
julian09
Jul 2012
#102