He might be beholden to Russia, bottom line. Keep (Reply #74)

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Tue Mar 14, 2017, 09:19 PM

babylonsister (153,808 posts)

74. He might be beholden to Russia, bottom line. Keep

the pressure up until he releases those tax returns. ALL of them.

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165 replies	Author	Time	Post
Official Rachel Maddow Show Watch Party thread! [View all]	bettyellen	Mar 14	OP
Anything new other than Benedict Donald is a traitor?	uponit7771	Mar 14	#1
Says she has Drumpf's tax returns. nt	JTFrog	Mar 14	#3
All of them.... With schedules?!?!	uponit7771	Mar 14	#5
No details....	JTFrog	Mar 14	#6
Got it!!	uponit7771	Mar 14	#7
They're his 2005 and he reported 150 million income	bettyellen	Mar 14	#18
We don't know except that she says it's true - seriously! We will find out in 30 min...	bettyellen	Mar 14	#8
2005 only	bettyellen	Mar 14	#19
She is first presenting her entire tax-related case against Trump.	kstewart33	Mar 14	#73
Please let there be something there.	JTFrog	Mar 14	#2
I am hoping it cracks the issue WIDE open so people insist on seeing all of them....	bettyellen	Mar 14	#11
I really hate even getting my hopes up at this point, but.....	LenaBaby61	Mar 14	#13
Official Rachel Maddow Show Watch Party thread!	LenaBaby61	Mar 14	#4
Meh.	demmiblue	Mar 14	#9
Maddow deserves more than a "meh". Her reporting has been exemplary as of late.	bettyellen	Mar 14	#14
HEAR, HEAR!!	ailsagirl	Mar 14	#151
Take down that traitorous bastard Rachel!	Fearless	Mar 14	#10
I may get some popcorn	shenmue	Mar 14	#12
I'm making a whiskey on the rocks.	bettyellen	Mar 14	#22
If it's just the 1040	Loki Liesmith	Mar 14	#15
It is the 1040 from 2005, reportedly	scheming daemons	Mar 14	#16
That's about when foreign money	Loki Liesmith	Mar 14	#17
I hope- I thought it could be later....	bettyellen	Mar 14	#20
That's when the real estate market was the hottest..the Ruskies started bailing out Trump	Kaotic	Mar 14	#122
Kick for Amaryllis and all those who cannot watch at home- let's quote for them!	bettyellen	Mar 14	#21
THANK YOU bettyellen!	Amaryllis	Mar 14	#26
I'm so excited	theglammistress	Mar 14	#23
Bummer they are not recent but welcome any press attention they do get!	bettyellen	Mar 14	#24
Trump probably leaked the two best pages for the one year he actually paid something.	L. Coyote	Mar 14	#25
+1, possible ... Benedict Donald is grimy bastard	uponit7771	Mar 14	#38
Even 38M on 150M in income is barely in the assets billionaire category.	politicat	Mar 14	#156
Report obtained by David Cay Johnston from DC report	bettyellen	Mar 14	#27
David Cay Johnston	bdamomma	Mar 14	#37
Ohhhh. Tks for correction- he will be joining Rachel to discuss the forms in depth....	bettyellen	Mar 14	#40
How long until we get a defensive Drumpf tweet?	True Dough	Mar 14	#28
Hope this is not a trap, these could be released by Benedict Donald himself !!	uponit7771	Mar 14	#29
Rachel seems nervous	itsrobert	Mar 14	#30
Is she reporting something to get emotional about?	Amaryllis	Mar 14	#33
She said her and the guy who passed them to her will be going into detail...	bettyellen	Mar 14	#39
They must have schedules, otherwise the simple 1040 tells us little... they must have schedules	uponit7771	Mar 14	#34
It seems to be nervous excitement	PatSeg	Mar 14	#60
exactly	itsrobert	Mar 14	#63
I have some red wine next to me.	chillfactor	Mar 14	#31
Whiskey and water on the rocks here.	bettyellen	Mar 14	#36
WOW NIXON WAS A CROOKED FUCK !!! Damn even had to pay 500,000 for fraud deductions!!!	uponit7771	Mar 14	#32
Significant that this is only 1040 and it's coming now...comping to Nixon who also hid his taxes and	bettyellen	Mar 14	#35
watching	MFM008	Mar 14	#41
She is using this as an opportunity to explain why more current returns matter so very much!!	bettyellen	Mar 14	#43
Live stream here:	Amaryllis	Mar 14	#42
Oh wow! Open two windows and watch w us!	bettyellen	Mar 14	#44
I did! HAve to leave at 6:30 unfortunately but will check out this thread for details of	Amaryllis	Mar 14	#49
There's also a downloadable podcast that should be available at 8pm PST	bettyellen	Mar 14	#57
Thanks, Amaryllis!	JudyM	Mar 14	#54
Long overture.	Baitball Blogger	Mar 14	#45
I'm guessing she's using the hype to educate new comers, which is good...	bettyellen	Mar 14	#50
It's actually just the format of the show	BannonsLiver	Mar 14	#84
This is smart, she's got an audience tonight might as well go through the good stuff	uponit7771	Mar 14	#66
She's explaining the probable Russian money laundering ....	bettyellen	Mar 14	#46
We should have known she's been weaving something with all those oligarch stories.	nolabear	Mar 14	#47
Now I think her first tweet was brilliant	stillsoleft	Mar 14	#59
She is connecting the dots..	WiffenPoof	Mar 14	#48
She is brilliant at setting the stage for maximum impact.	Amaryllis	Mar 14	#52
From your keyboard...	WiffenPoof	Mar 14	#58
Russia is wrapped	bdamomma	Mar 14	#51
I think this will be a nice little package about financial ties to Russia	Greywing	Mar 14	#53
I made a homemade lemon meringue pie this afternoon. Cooled now and enjoying my	riversedge	Mar 14	#55
Hmmmmmmmmmmm	malaise	Mar 14	#67
I only make it a few times a year-maybe 3. It is a treat. Have a nice evening.	riversedge	Mar 14	#79
Haven't made it in years	malaise	Mar 14	#83
We were suspose to get a few buckets of smelt for tonight so I bought some lemons but then	riversedge	Mar 14	#127
Nothing like fresh lemons	malaise	Mar 14	#131
hmmm.....	bdamomma	Mar 14	#116
Is she scripted....	WiffenPoof	Mar 14	#56
Right now she's summarizing Benedict Donald's nasty news... SMART, she's got an audience tonight	uponit7771	Mar 14	#62
She doesn't sound like she's winging it.	Baitball Blogger	Mar 14	#64
I think scripted but beautifully done.	nolabear	Mar 14	#65
often wondered that myself. She is brilliant enough to do it iwth just bullet points, no teleprompt,	Amaryllis	Mar 14	#68
Help yourself	malaise	Mar 14	#61
Yummy!thank you!!	bettyellen	Mar 14	#88
Tax Return is for 2005.	Baitball Blogger	Mar 14	#69
You KNOW Trump is watching this...	WiffenPoof	Mar 14	#70
Tweet follow up or will it be like after O wiretapping where he goes silent?	Amaryllis	Mar 14	#71
He preemptively released the income declared and said it was "illegal" for her to release them...	bettyellen	Mar 14	#78
So is Bannon, I'm sure..nt	monmouth4	Mar 14	#72
So are the Russians	True Dough	Mar 14	#80
:D	C Moon	Mar 14	#161
It is possible he leaked this himself.	Equinox Moon	Mar 14	#125
He might be beholden to Russia, bottom line. Keep	babylonsister	Mar 14	#74
That's the drum Maddow is beating....	bettyellen	Mar 14	#85
I know, I'm watching!	babylonsister	Mar 14	#90
Is he "financially beholden". We can't know without getting these tax returns...	bettyellen	Mar 14	#75
This is an 11 yr old pre-financial crisis tax return...not optimistic there will be anything	Kaotic	Mar 14	#76
This is a YUGE NOTHINGBURGER!	Kaotic	Mar 14	#102
Exactly what Fox news said the next morning. And by multiple 'news' people there.	Kingofalldems	Mar 23	#165
Daily Beast report on what taxes reveal:	Amaryllis	Mar 14	#77
Which is basically nothing	oberliner	Mar 14	#86
This is one of the rare times...	WiffenPoof	Mar 14	#81
oh WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!	bdamomma	Mar 14	#82
Yes	shenmue	Mar 14	#89
CRAP !!! NO SCHEDULES !!! CRAP !!! The schedules are the details of the right offs !!	uponit7771	Mar 14	#87
Bummer- can they extrapolate what could be on the schedule?	bettyellen	Mar 14	#92
Nope, the 1040s are basically summary pages... oh well	uponit7771	Mar 14	#95
dailybeast	D_Master81	Mar 14	#91
The reporter who got the return will be coming up.	riversedge	Mar 14	#93
Who could be giving this up and might they have more?	bettyellen	Mar 14	#99
Well, we have a few crumbs on the tax trail. Guess we just have to stay tuned for now unless	riversedge	Mar 14	#119
Turned up in David Cay Johnston's mail box.	elleng	Mar 14	#94
... and its only the summary pages which don't mean shit since the details of rights are on schedule	uponit7771	Mar 14	#97
I had and have a feeling this will be nothing...	pangaia	Mar 14	#96
It is a big nothing	oberliner	Mar 14	#101
Damn.... This better not fizzle out....NT	WiffenPoof	Mar 14	#98
Only 2 pages--not the schedules or other required pages that would be included in the 2005	riversedge	Mar 14	#100
Big zero	oberliner	Mar 14	#103
We do not have the sourse of his income. drats.	riversedge	Mar 14	#111
Speculation that Donald could have leaked these himself, has leaked before....	bettyellen	Mar 14	#104
I absolutely believe Trump leaked this himself...	Kaotic	Mar 14	#120
David Cay Johnston saying possible that Donald leaked his own 2 page return.	riversedge	Mar 14	#105
Probably, likely certainly..this return makes Trump look good actually.	Kaotic	Mar 14	#123
Welcome to DU, Kaotic!	calimary	Mar 14	#149
Merry Fitzmas	JenniferJuniper	Mar 14	#106
Welcome back to DU, JJ!	bettyellen	Mar 14	#109
Alternative Minimum tax is the only reason he paid a lot less tax.....	bettyellen	Mar 14	#107
You mean more. His FIT was $5.4m, AMT was $31m.	ffr	Mar 14	#139
meh	Takket	Mar 14	#108
I'm underwhelmed.	no_hypocrisy	Mar 14	#115
Trump leaked this return...NO DOUBT ABOUT IT	Kaotic	Mar 14	#110
And she fell for it...	pangaia	Mar 14	#113
She's used it as an opportunity to educate new viewers, so that's good.	bettyellen	Mar 14	#118
No, not really. It gets him sympathy	TimeToGo	Mar 14	#124
exactly..she's being used.	Kaotic	Mar 14	#126
Anyone who discusses the taxes is doing it in the context of "what is he hiding" and that's good!	bettyellen	Mar 14	#128
Only those of us who already think that	TimeToGo	Mar 14	#133
She spent the entire show explaining why it's crucial to the Russian investigation....	bettyellen	Mar 14	#137
Yes, that's fine	TimeToGo	Mar 14	#148
She gave a run down of the Russian connections as context for the details we need to confirm or	bettyellen	Mar 14	#140
That would be fine except it was hyped. Glad she reported it,	Lucky Luciano	Mar 14	#136
HA - then it worked!	bettyellen	Mar 14	#138
It worked to get me to turn on the tv, but I don't	Lucky Luciano	Mar 14	#146
She spent the whole hour basically trying to drum up bigger interest and explain	bettyellen	Mar 14	#150
I assume that you would rather it not be leaked unless it was worthwhile	HoneyBadger	Mar 14	#144
CNN.com is reporting WH released the tax records.	JenniferJuniper	Mar 14	#112
No, just confirmed the info	DeminPennswoods	Mar 14	#129
"WH releases some tax details"	JenniferJuniper	Mar 14	#132
MSNBC sent the 1040s to WH for confirmation	DeminPennswoods	Mar 14	#141
I understand that. Point is CNN is helping the WH out here.	JenniferJuniper	Mar 14	#147
DT peeps involved with "State sponsored network of international criminals"	bettyellen	Mar 14	#114
Well, it's not nothing, but it ain't much...	Adrahil	Mar 14	#117
Yup	SHRED	Mar 14	#121
yep, bet tRump leaked them	elmac	Mar 14	#130
We think a lot alike!	ffr	Mar 14	#134
A couple points to make	DeminPennswoods	Mar 14	#135
Excellent points, and I thought it was a good primer for those newer...	bettyellen	Mar 14	#143
Why does she have a lot of new viewers tonight?	moonscape	Mar 14	#160
Why this show was important.	Tatiana	Mar 14	#142
unless Trump leaked it, which is the most likely explanation	grantcart	Mar 14	#145
Yep	TimeToGo	Mar 14	#152
I like your take!	Madam45for2923	Mar 14	#154
My conspiracy theory is that the return was tweaked	HoneyBadger	Mar 14	#153
"It is illegal to publish actual returns."	TimeToGo	Mar 14	#155
Newsweek last year	HoneyBadger	Mar 14	#157
No. Rachel addressed this. It is NOT illegal to publish the returns if they were unsolicited.	mnhtnbb	Mar 14	#158
And mine is that this is a giant set-up by T and	moonscape	Mar 14	#162
I'm feelin' the hysterical/historical moment! But the larger American concern: divided loyalty.	ancianita	Mar 14	#159
Disappointing....	Bayard	Mar 14	#163
We have been played for ratings.....	deaniac21	Mar 15	#164

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