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1-Old-Man

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27. But you don't send the check directly to the Government Contractors, it goes to the IRS

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Is the mandate a violation of the First Amendment? [View all] Uncle Joe Jun 2012 OP

How does the ACA violate the 1st Amendment? COLGATE4 Jun 2012 #1

Here is the text. Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #5

It would take more pages than I have the energy COLGATE4 Jun 2012 #38

I was thinking along the same lines this morning. EFerrari Jun 2012 #2

You get a tax break for your Mortgage Insurance. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #3

No one forces anyone to buy a house, that is a choice, you don't get fined for not owning a house. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #8

You don;t have to buy insurance. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #10

I'm saying that there are people who cannot afford it. Even a small extra amount of money sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #12

If you don;t make enough, you get either a subsidy or an exemption. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #20

Getting a tax break and receiving a fine are two different things, even Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #32

FIRST Amendment? elleng Jun 2012 #4

Where money is speech -- as the Supreme Court has decided it is? EFerrari Jun 2012 #13

Have to get there in other ways, EF. elleng Jun 2012 #19

Did you miss the part about speech? Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #21

And they are. elleng Jun 2012 #35

This law abridges the peoples' political speech via economic means. Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #36

The whole "mandate" thing is a ruse..... Swede Atlanta Jun 2012 #6

+100 JoePhilly Jun 2012 #11

I disagree.... matmar Jun 2012 #17

Only because this is something they have been trying to do for decades and they were not sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #18

Those taxes go to the peoples' elected agents; that being the government to do as it wishes. Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #23

No. Citizens United is. HopeHoops Jun 2012 #7

Considering that money is speech now, not something the FFs probably had in mind, but sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #9

I see it as using their own framing against them. EFerrari Jun 2012 #14

Your logic is flawless. Motown_Johnny Jun 2012 #15

I have a big problem with the mandate, but I'm not following your logic. EOTE Jun 2012 #16

No because taxes go to your elected representatives; the government, supposedly you Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #24

It seems to me to be a distinction without a difference. EOTE Jun 2012 #37

There already is a mandate for auto insurance. trof Jun 2012 #22

That's only if you purchase an automobile and that pertains Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #25

No, you don't have to purchase an automobile. trof Jun 2012 #31

no more of less than the income tax does. unblock Jun 2012 #26

But you don't send the check directly to the Government Contractors, it goes to the IRS 1-Old-Man Jun 2012 #27

no, you pay the income tax or "penalty" or whatever you want to call it to the irs. unblock Jun 2012 #29

Is it a penalty if you don't get a mortgage? sadbear Jun 2012 #28

I get so depressed ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2012 #30

+1000 trof Jun 2012 #33

I wouldn't care if I didn't believe the ACA with the mandate to be a Trojan Horse. Uncle Joe Jun 2012 #34

WTF....have you read the First Amendment?!?! cbdo2007 Jun 2012 #39