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JHan

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Wed Feb 1, 2017, 02:49 PM Feb 2017

Folks want Hillary to say something about the OrangeClusterFuckofMadness in the WH. Well she did.. [View all]

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/08/25/hillary-clintons-alt-right-speech-annotated/?utm_term=.2d4a3ad0d95f

Remember?


I have to begin by saying my original plan for this visit was to focus on our agenda to help small businesses and entrepreneurs. This week we proposed new steps to cut red tape and taxes to make it easier for small businesses to get the credit they need to grow and hire.

I want to be a small business president. My father was a small business man. And I believe that in America, if you can dream it, you should be able to build it.

And so, we’ll be talking a lot more about small business and about our economic plans in the days and weeks ahead.

But today, here in this community college devoted to opening minds and creating great understanding of the world of which we live, I want to address something that I am hearing about from Americans all over our country.


Everywhere I go, people tell me how concerned they are by the divisive rhetoric coming from my opponent in this election.

And I understand that concern, because it’s like nothing we’ve heard before from a nominee for president of the United States from one of our two major parties.

From the start, Donald Trump has built his campaign on prejudice and paranoia.

He is taking hate groups mainstream and helping a radical fringe take over the Republican Party.

His disregard for the values that make our country great is profoundly dangerous.

In just this past week, under the guise of “outreach” to African Americans, Trump has stood up in front of largely white audiences and described black communities in such insulting and ignorant terms:

“Poverty. Rejection. Horrible education. No housing. No homes. No ownership. Crime at levels nobody has seen." Right now," he said, "you walk down the street and get shot.”

Those are his words.

But when I hear them, I think to myself: How sad. Donald Trump misses so much.


He doesn’t see the success of black leaders in every field, the vibrancy of black-owned businesses, the strength of the black church.

He doesn’t see the excellence of historically black colleges and universities or the pride of black parents watching their children thrive. And he apparently didn't see Police Chief Brown on television after the murders of five of his officers conducting himself with such dignity. He certainly doesn’t have any solutions to take on the reality of systemic racism and create more equity and opportunity in communities of color and for every American.

It really does take a lot of nerve to ask people he’s ignored and mistreated for decades, “What do you have to lose?” Because the answer is: Everything.

Now, Trump’s lack of knowledge or experience or solutions would be bad enough.

But what he’s doing here is more sinister.

Trump is reinforcing harmful stereotypes and offering a dog whistle to his most hateful supporters.

It’s a disturbing preview of what kind of president he’d be.



And that's what I want to make clear today:

A man with a long history of racial discrimination, who traffics in dark conspiracy theories drawn from the pages of supermarket tabloids and the far, dark reaches of the internet, should never run our government or command our military.

Ask yourself, if he doesn’t respect all Americans, how can he serve all Americans?

Now, I know some people still want to give Trump the benefit of the doubt.

They hope that he will eventually reinvent himself – that there’s a kinder, gentler, more responsible Donald Trump waiting in the wings somewhere.

Because after all, it’s hard to believe anyone – let alone a nominee for president – could really believe all the things he says.

But the hard truth is, there’s no other Donald Trump. This is it.


Like she repeated this over and over and over and over.

She got criticized for this speech and there was backlash. She was too "harsh", she was "descending to his level" they said.

Chris Matthews got in on the action and while discussing the speech with ex GOP Chairman Michael Steele, lamented that it dragged politics to a level it shouldn't be and he and Michael agreed that Hillary was wrong. Trump's gaslighting had so infected political media, the pundits couldn't see the truth if it slapped them in the face.Maybe Chris should eat crow now, because this speech was prescient about the dangers of a Trump presidency.

Hillary warned us time and time again about Trump, and was criticized for being too negative and too "anti- trump" even when her speeches weren't all about Trump. In fact, most of her speeches were about her policy positions and plans but the media didn't have time to discuss such unimportant things.

It is important to be ANTI TRUMP because of what he represents. He is a throwback, a dying breed of American who looks back instead of forward. He is regressive and autocratic and wants to hold on to an old tired view of the world that is tribalistic, nationalistic and provincial - to do so he will allow religious theocracy to take hold, he will fuck the environment over and justify doing so because it's a god given right, and wealth=right in his mind. He'll allow backward right-libertarian ideologues to steer policy and crush socialism in favor of feudalism and he will starve green energy initiatives in favor of extractive industries. He will turn his back to the promise of 21st century civilisation: Liberalism - open markets, green energy, cosmopolitanism, diversity, secularism, a vast social safety net, democracy.

The true progressive position is to be AntiTrump and all he stands for, on that score Hillary was right.
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I do remember, and fuck Jill Stein (excuse my language) LisaM Feb 2017 #1
FJS and FDT The Polack MSgt Feb 2017 #6
The media needs to apologize to HRC for holding her to a higher standard than him. Candide350 Feb 2017 #7
We saw an election leftynyc Feb 2017 #18
Close, Lefty ProfessorGAC Feb 2017 #23
That too leftynyc Feb 2017 #44
+ a bajillion!!!!!! eom BlueMTexpat Feb 2017 #101
+1 nt ProudProgressiveNow Feb 2017 #42
Just posted on Otero County Dems...my party fb page duhneece Feb 2017 #112
I wish I could claim credit leftynyc Feb 2017 #114
Wherever you 'got' it from...YOU remembered it duhneece Feb 2017 #115
I was so stunned after leftynyc Feb 2017 #118
I just love you so much right now... duhneece Feb 2017 #119
LOL - I'm blushing (n/t) leftynyc Feb 2017 #120
Welcome to DU, Candide350! calimary Feb 2017 #78
And not just Jill Stein and her cult of followers... NBachers Feb 2017 #15
Yep. calimary Feb 2017 #22
Yep bhusar Feb 2017 #51
Jeebus falcon cripes The Polack MSgt Feb 2017 #111
Thanks bhusar Feb 2017 #117
What you said.... Tarheel_Dem Feb 2017 #19
Post removed Post removed Feb 2017 #92
Just because some folks can't handle the truth doesn't mean we are gonna stop talking about it. nt JTFrog Feb 2017 #95
K&R. Thanks for posting. Arkansas Granny Feb 2017 #2
thank you for that very timely reminder. niyad Feb 2017 #3
but did she have emails ?!? / sarcasm uponit7771 Feb 2017 #4
She's right of course. panader0 Feb 2017 #5
But a whole lot of people thought they were "equally bad." (nt) ehrnst Feb 2017 #28
Will someone please jam this down the throat of Chris Matthews? n/t cynatnite Feb 2017 #8
And Mrs. Greenspan!! Va Lefty Feb 2017 #10
I wish she'd come out and say, "I fucking tried to warn you, but you wouldn't listen!" herding cats Feb 2017 #9
me too-- that would be great Fast Walker 52 Feb 2017 #21
Once he gets impeached... herding cats Feb 2017 #72
Indeed. The "yeah, but Hillary..." excuse for not supporting her last November was BULLSHIT. calimary Feb 2017 #24
That they did. herding cats Feb 2017 #73
One or two weeks before the election I was with a group of friends for board games and chat.... Hekate Feb 2017 #125
Great point. "Happy NOW?" calimary Feb 2017 #128
She could have a TV show with that title for the next four years! She was right about that (rats)! Akamai Feb 2017 #71
She could, but she's not about attention. herding cats Feb 2017 #74
I don't think she should rule out that idea. She might move trump on important issues. But you're Akamai Feb 2017 #116
People knew exactly what they were voting for when they voted for Trump. Rex Feb 2017 #11
++++++++ JHan Feb 2017 #12
I agree. Rex Feb 2017 #14
Plus a million hibbing Feb 2017 #39
He talked about internment camps, defaulting on the debt and using nukes MrPurple Feb 2017 #79
This is true. There were no illusions. WYSIWYG. VOX Feb 2017 #77
And despite all the Hillary bashing from all sides... maddiemom Feb 2017 #94
K&R mcar Feb 2017 #13
K&R DesertRat Feb 2017 #16
Great Piece in another forum about her not owing anyone an apology ehrnst Feb 2017 #17
YES! maddiemom Feb 2017 #33
Isn't this "rehashing the primaries?" n/m Ned Flanders Feb 2017 #38
No charlyvi Feb 2017 #54
No. ehrnst Feb 2017 #60
No, Ned, it is not Hekate Feb 2017 #85
Yes! mcar Feb 2017 #56
"Ungrateful wrecks" NastyRiffraff Feb 2017 #65
AMEN this is said as forcefully as I put it and so much better Hekate Feb 2017 #84
Excellent piece. nt JTFrog Feb 2017 #99
Is there a dump Chris Matthews movement? SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2017 #20
He's often annoying but to be fair, these days he finally gets it. JHan Feb 2017 #25
Yes! I agree Sleepless. MontanaMama Feb 2017 #45
Before we try that one, we FIRST need to get rid of Greta Van FoxNews. calimary Feb 2017 #70
I likely won't watch her. Can't watch Tweetie anymore. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2017 #76
Fuck everyone who did not vote for this woman. TeamPooka Feb 2017 #26
K&R smirkymonkey Feb 2017 #27
Where are the Clintons now? Doodley Feb 2017 #29
As far as I'm concerned, maddiemom Feb 2017 #36
It isn't about them "owing us," but they have a significant following. Doodley Feb 2017 #40
I agree that we NEED the Clintons and have no doubt they'll continue to be there for us. maddiemom Feb 2017 #53
What you say is of paramount importance triron Feb 2017 #57
At some point, even the Clintons get Progressive dog Feb 2017 #93
Why should she say one thing on behalf of anyone?? MontanaMama Feb 2017 #48
She cared enough about the threat of Trump during the campaign. Doodley Feb 2017 #50
I am saying that she did more than most people are willing to do. MontanaMama Feb 2017 #58
What exactly are YOU doing, Doodley? It is now up to US. Hekate Feb 2017 #86
Unlike many who continue to trash her here today. nt JTFrog Feb 2017 #96
In what way? Specifically? And does that go for Jimmy Carter as well? (nt) ehrnst Feb 2017 #100
And she still gets criticized for making this election too much about HIM pnwmom Feb 2017 #30
Yep, and it should always have been about HIM. JHan Feb 2017 #52
K&R gademocrat7 Feb 2017 #31
there is another speech AlexSFCA Feb 2017 #32
MSNBC and Hillary pamdb Feb 2017 #34
Yep, and not just them. All of political media lost their minds. JHan Feb 2017 #47
Yeah, I remember vividly and I am still... Guilded Lilly Feb 2017 #35
And since Hillary DID win the MAJORITY of America's vote rocktivity Feb 2017 #37
kick Blue_Tires Feb 2017 #41
This Hekate Feb 2017 #87
Great speech, thanks for the copy. But that was August. Ned Flanders Feb 2017 #43
That doesn't fly with me. We all got fair warning about Trump. JHan Feb 2017 #46
+ 1 charlyvi Feb 2017 #55
Bravo bhusar Feb 2017 #110
She's been rejected by the "progressive movement" The Sand Reckoner Feb 2017 #59
Bingo. nt JTFrog Feb 2017 #62
Not adhering to the manifesto is Thoughtcrime. ehrnst Feb 2017 #63
Thank you. nt trc Feb 2017 #81
+1 uponit7771 Feb 2017 #98
I still reject her, but recognize her past and potential future contributions Ned Flanders Feb 2017 #121
As I said, find your own role model. She doesn't owe you shit. The Sand Reckoner Feb 2017 #127
No, she rejected us... Ned Flanders Feb 2017 #123
Nice try at spin The Sand Reckoner Feb 2017 #126
Ooh, I've never had "ilk" before. Ned Flanders Feb 2017 #129
More elaborate tap dancing, with no substance The Sand Reckoner Feb 2017 #131
What part of "I love Obama" was indirect? Ned Flanders Feb 2017 #132
No you didn't, but I doubt you'll admit it. The Sand Reckoner Feb 2017 #133
Dang, I can't keep up. Ned Flanders Feb 2017 #134
I see you've given up trying to respond with facts and logical arguments The Sand Reckoner Feb 2017 #135
I refuse to argue with drunks and 45 supporters Ned Flanders Feb 2017 #136
And yet here you are The Sand Reckoner Feb 2017 #137
Ned, she had our backs her whole life. Did you ever have hers, even once? Hekate Feb 2017 #88
I had her back until she attacked Obama, back in '08 Ned Flanders Feb 2017 #122
Okay, got that. Your candidate must channel YOUR thoughts, which are stellar & of big things.... Hekate Feb 2017 #124
No need to be snarky. Obama rocks! Ned Flanders Feb 2017 #130
KNR Lucinda Feb 2017 #49
K&FuckingR! nt JTFrog Feb 2017 #61
To the media and everyone else who was more concerned about "emails": Jamaal510 Feb 2017 #64
I want ALL past elected Dems benld74 Feb 2017 #66
This is now on us. Get moving. Join Indivisible. DO something. Hekate Feb 2017 #89
Good to see this Edina Feb 2017 #67
Thanks Edina. I agree with you. Welcome here. Madam45for2923 Feb 2017 #68
Welcome to DU, Edina!! Great first post!! I am glad that DU has emerged as a relatively pro-Hillary StevieM Feb 2017 #80
Males. n/t fleabiscuit Feb 2017 #82
Yeah, I never joined during the election because I thought this place was inherently anti-Hillary. butdiduvote Feb 2017 #91
Thanks do much for this OP and the reminder of HER words! Madam45for2923 Feb 2017 #69
Mahalo for Hillary speaking out on trump BEFORE the Election. A true Progressive Indeed! Cha Feb 2017 #75
Well Chris didn't grasp how abnormal Trump was... JHan Feb 2017 #106
British PM, David Cameron rode off into the sunset after the Brexit vote. oasis Feb 2017 #83
KICK Cha Feb 2017 #90
This is the Hillary that I like. I would support this Hillary ... Fantastic Anarchist Feb 2017 #97
This message was self-deleted by its author athena Feb 2017 #108
Who is clamoring for Hillary to speak up? KPN Feb 2017 #102
Yes, I've seen some asking her to, not just on here... JHan Feb 2017 #104
What she has done is enough. Let Kaine and Bernie lead the charge hollowdweller Feb 2017 #103
Every Democratic politician has to lead in their district/state.. JHan Feb 2017 #105
Wouldn't surprise me if Trump moved to arrest her....if only as a distraction radhika Feb 2017 #107
No it's not too alarmist at all.. Trump is authoritarian, that scenario might be his wet dream. JHan Feb 2017 #109
She needs to go on a program and discuss her malaise Feb 2017 #113
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