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freshwest

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32. Yes, but I don't see him doing it. If Americans can dismiss all values and elect Romney, we're done.
Sun Jun 24, 2012, 06:58 PM
Jun 2012

The entire country will be sold off into divisions to the highest bidder and that'll be it. There will be no new leftie, not with the way the districts are drawn, there will be more voter suppression than there is going on now.

It will be the permanent majority the GOP has planned on for a full generation, and their media will rubber stamp everything they do. We all know what they will do, we know who they support. So there will be nothing to do.

If I was in 1strongblackman's shoes, I'd do the same thing he says he'd do. It will take centuries to get anything reasonable going again. If people don't realize that this is what the GOP and Libertarians plan for the USA, drowning the government in the bathtub, and the rich must not be taxed mantra, they are brain dead. They're not playing games, they will shut the whole thing down to sell it off.

Obama is holding back the fascism, no matter what the harpies say. He believes in a representative democracy, the GOP does not. Their goal is getting close at hand, aristocracy. If Americans want to go into the dark ages, it's their choice and those of us who can't leave will be forced to watch the show.

If he wins and Americans start doing their part instead of being spectators, we'll get through this. There is nothing in history that says a government cannot be toppled or destroyed. Those who call for violent revolution are denying history which says that these actions precede dictatorship. They get their prophecy fulfilled but it won't be democracy, it won't be progressive, it won't be leftist. Even if it was leftist, which there is no reason in hell to being to believe it would be with the current population and their stated non-progressive, anti-liberal, anti-socialist, defininitely anti-left belief system, that is not where it's going.

Remember that although those who fought Franco in Spain were right, they lost. Generations lived under fascist rule and their country is still not free of all of that, not stable as we have been. We have had the luxury in this country of thinking that things will always fall back into balance. It sure wasn't in balance before the Civil War or in the civil rights era and there is nothing that promises that the majority will suddenly veer left. So it's Obama or nothing for me, he's the last Democratic chance.




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???? Logical Jun 2012 #2
!!!! Drunken Irishman Jun 2012 #3
... jberryhill Jun 2012 #19
ооо Voice for Peace Jun 2012 #31
Obama is not going to lose warrior1 Jun 2012 #4
No way in hell? Money may prove you wrong. Avalux Jun 2012 #5
You need, for yourself and others, to research this claim that the candidate with the most money Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #55
Grover Cleveland Tx4obama Jun 2012 #6
Quote from his wife Tx4obama Jun 2012 #12
Great attitude! Michelle could tell Ann to keep the garden up. treestar Jun 2012 #14
No, you never use the Adlai Stevenson strategy. GarroHorus Jun 2012 #7
After 4 years of Romney, a mushy middle Third Way president won't do. Warpy Jun 2012 #8
Absolutely! Blue_In_AK Jun 2012 #16
+1,000,000 +++ and WITH NO COMPROMISING. Time to throw the SH** back RKP5637 Jun 2012 #25
After 8 years of Bush... Zorra Jun 2012 #63
No. I love Obama, but he'll probably hurt the party by running for a third straight time. boxman15 Jun 2012 #9
No. But ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2012 #10
He'd be young enough. MrSlayer Jun 2012 #11
Yes treestar Jun 2012 #13
I agree. n/t Tx4obama Jun 2012 #17
No, I want someone much more in line with my political leanings,.. Blue_In_AK Jun 2012 #15
I fear this is going to be the century of the crazies in politics. It'll never RKP5637 Jun 2012 #27
Wtf!, what does all the No's say about some of us? Puzzledtraveller Jun 2012 #18
It says just what it appears to say demwing Jun 2012 #21
What it says is that a LAME DUCK is a BAD CHOICE. Hello? 22nd Amendment, anyone? Seriously! nt MADem Jun 2012 #28
The 22nd Amendment does not prevent Obama running in 2016, if he doesn't win in 2012 Tx4obama Jun 2012 #30
What did I just say? Hello--LAME DUCK. He'd get a four year bite of the apple and that is IT. MADem Jun 2012 #36
I think he could get a lot more done in four year, especially if he had a Dem House and Senate n/t Tx4obama Jun 2012 #38
It's not a viable scenario. Carter didn't do it because it was not a viable scenario for him, MADem Jun 2012 #39
For me JustAnotherGen Jun 2012 #40
Hillary Macoy51 Jun 2012 #57
No, the world moves too fast and that's too long to not be in the center of things. nt Raine Jun 2012 #20
No I think he has sacrificed enough... Kalidurga Jun 2012 #22
If Obama loses and the Repukes Politicalboi Jun 2012 #23
I would almost tend to believe AsahinaKimi Jun 2012 #51
You must be fucking joking whatchamacallit Jun 2012 #24
We need an eight year player. MADem Jun 2012 #26
If you elect 2 presidents, you'll have none. n/t hughee99 Jun 2012 #34
Depends on the personalities. nt MADem Jun 2012 #37
I think his effect upon the primaries, at that point, would be FASCINATING. nt patrice Jun 2012 #29
Yes, but I don't see him doing it. If Americans can dismiss all values and elect Romney, we're done. freshwest Jun 2012 #32
no. if he lost to him once, he'll lose again La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2012 #33
I can't decide what hat I'm going to wear in 20 minutes Scootaloo Jun 2012 #35
My dad always said that FDR needed everyone of the years he was in office to fix the mess he jwirr Jun 2012 #41
Romney isn't going to win. If he did, I'd prefer a liberal run 2016. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #42
Obama is a LIBERAL. See below Tx4obama Jun 2012 #43
In the eyes of conservatives he's a liberal. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #44
I am in liberal on the left and in MY eyes President Obama is also. n/t Tx4obama Jun 2012 #45
Mine as well. NYC Liberal Jun 2012 #47
No. Pre-22nd Amendment, it was a viable option. NYC Liberal Jun 2012 #46
But there is no guarantee that the 'someone other' would get eight years. Tx4obama Jun 2012 #48
True, however, Obama wouldn't have the OPPORTUNITY to run NYC Liberal Jun 2012 #49
2016 is Hillary's DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #50
Hell no Ter Jun 2012 #52
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What is the point of this poll? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #54
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This thread is depressing for a monday N/T Meg_Griffin_1 Jun 2012 #58
+1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 - Well put and definitely coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #59
No (nt) bigwillq Jun 2012 #60
Hell No!!! America doesn't deserve President Obama. blackmamba09 Jun 2012 #61
Oh boo hoo bigwillq Jun 2012 #62
Sorry about hurting your feelings. blackmamba09 Jun 2012 #65
WAH! bigwillq Jun 2012 #68
Hell no. woo me with science Jun 2012 #64
I wouldn't mind him running for the Dem nomination JonLP24 Jun 2012 #66
No, of course not n/t quinnox Jun 2012 #67
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