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Jackpine Radical

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5. I don't much buy into the sociobiology of your first paragraph.
Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:58 PM
Dec 2011

A wide variety of human societies have existed, many of which lacked that sort of hierarchical, patriarchal structure. Sociobiologists make a lot of assumptions about the inflexibility of humans and assume that their own culture either is or ought to be universal.

In some circumstances, humans form hierarchical groups, and in other circumstances they don't. I tend to think of patriarchy as a sort of social cancer that got started in some agricultural societies, and now threatens to destroy us all. I think the more healthy social structure is the "partnership culture" of Mohenjo-Daro and Harappa,
in the Indus valley, and Minos in the Mediterranean.

For every chimp example, there is a bonobo example, if ya really got to get down to that level of argument.

And I think we can get along just fine without permanent hierarchical structures.

So, I am guessing that this was a rhetorical question on your part, tavalon Dec 2011 #1
I see Occupy in the same way. Zorra Dec 2011 #2
We have to get past basic biology first izquierdista Dec 2011 #3
I don't much buy into the sociobiology of your first paragraph. Jackpine Radical Dec 2011 #5
You should check it again izquierdista Dec 2011 #6
Like in Bonobo culture, males are woefully inept at empathy. Thus, WingDinger Dec 2011 #10
Iz & Wing--Thanks. Jackpine Radical Dec 2011 #15
God likes non hierarchical structure. The Israelites second guessed God and clammored for a king. Th WingDinger Dec 2011 #7
Plato's Republic. WingDinger Dec 2011 #20
With the fall of the Soviet Union, we killed all our comparative philosophy courses. WingDinger Dec 2011 #4
Interesting. Not a replacement for democracy I think, but an influence on it. DirkGently Dec 2011 #8
As a species rrneck Dec 2011 #9
Wonderful input. Jackpine Radical Dec 2011 #11
Umm, potlatch calls that theories bluff. WingDinger Dec 2011 #12
It worked fine for Native Americans until Europeans arrived looking to accumulate for themselves. nt rrneck Dec 2011 #14
Humans MUST be raised to shun competition for resources. Otherwise, screw all of you. MINE. WingDinger Dec 2011 #21
I agree. rrneck Dec 2011 #22
Nicely-done. I enjoyed reading it. MineralMan Dec 2011 #13
At this stage, I'm advancing very tentative notions-- Jackpine Radical Dec 2011 #16
Conceptually, it's very inviting. MineralMan Dec 2011 #17
As that great philosopher{dumbass} said, There are known unknowns, and unknown unknowns. WingDinger Dec 2011 #18
I guess I'm imagining some sort of emergent properties Jackpine Radical Dec 2011 #19
I dont think it will happen until we break into smalled parts. Marrah_G Dec 2011 #23
the thing is, we still have to eat. Speck Tater Dec 2011 #24
You're creating false dichotomies. Jackpine Radical Dec 2011 #25
I didn't create the Agribusiness vs peasant labor dichotomy. Speck Tater Dec 2011 #26
Personally, I'm most interested in permaculture as an agricultural approach. Jackpine Radical Dec 2011 #27
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