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That is a very tricky question to answer el_bryanto Jan 2017 #1
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to have for dinner. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #2
sheep and wolves: that's the right wing meme eniwetok Jan 2017 #4
If we had a plebiscitary democracy a lot of the rights we now enjoy we would no longer have. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #7
more right wing memes... eniwetok Jan 2017 #13
So what kind of system did we have in those 3-4 years between ratification and the Bill Of Rights? DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #14
you're evading the question eniwetok Jan 2017 #19
you're still not dealing with your contradictions... eniwetok Jan 2017 #20
"...then where should a citizen's loyalties be?" myohmy2 Jan 2017 #3
conversely... if eniwetok Jan 2017 #5
But is it? It's a long read, but still nobody's done it better than... TreasonousBastard Jan 2017 #6
There is a difference between democracy and liberal democracy. DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2017 #9
I think you meant "hate", but the term "democracy" has so many... TreasonousBastard Jan 2017 #12
leaving aside your strawman argument eniwetok Jan 2017 #36
and these other forms of morally legitimate government are? eniwetok Jan 2017 #21
What if "the people" decided to try out that philosopher king for a while? It's not so easy to... TreasonousBastard Jan 2017 #22
spoken like a true apologist for the system eniwetok Jan 2017 #23
We still haven't seen your better sytem. TreasonousBastard Jan 2017 #25
easy answer... some basic principles... eniwetok Jan 2017 #34
are you EVER going to explain eniwetok Jan 2017 #37
faith-based politics eniwetok Jan 2017 #24
Be as appalled as you like-- people built the system and people maintain it... TreasonousBastard Jan 2017 #26
so did YOUR god give us our system eniwetok Jan 2017 #29
No, but I still have no idea what your point could possibly be... TreasonousBastard Jan 2017 #32
RED HERRING ALERT!! eniwetok Jan 2017 #33
yours was a non-answer designed to end discussion eniwetok Jan 2017 #35
With that principle, LWolf Jan 2017 #8
Since 1789.... eniwetok Jan 2017 #10
Our system is riddled LWolf Jan 2017 #11
the Senate doesn't stop majority rule... it permits minority rule eniwetok Jan 2017 #15
And that's why LWolf Jan 2017 #16
who's the minority? eniwetok Jan 2017 #17
we were sold a bill of goods eniwetok Jan 2017 #18
In our system there is no difference between principle and the Democratic Party gulliver Jan 2017 #27
Really? eniwetok Jan 2017 #30
The principles are what matter FiveGoodMen Jan 2017 #28
Michael Parenti got it right ages ago malaise Jan 2017 #31
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