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whathehell

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82. The most pertinent point, IMO, was the "countries that ban porn = Women as 3rd class citizens"
Thu Jun 21, 2012, 12:05 PM
Jun 2012

statement.

That's probably true..The problem is, at this point in time,

the countries that do NOT ban porn, treat them as Second Class citizens.

Yeah, sure, that's better than Third, but still not exactly ideal.

The fact is, most western industrialized countries have a better

record on human rights generally, but that doesn't refute the fact that there is no INHERENT

connection between "porn tolerance" and respect for women, in fact, I would argue the opposite,

the difference existing between first and third world countries is just a matter of degree.

What we see in porn-tolerant western societies represents a kind "half way" mark on the

evolutionary road of women's rights.

When women have FIRST class citizenship, there will be no tolerance for abusive porn,

and I think that working against female-negative pornography might

just bring about that day sooner.

Denmark and Norway both banned sexual objectification in ads seabeyond Jun 2012 #1
A smart and civilized move...Good on them. whathehell Jun 2012 #17
A smart and civilized move...Good on them. clang1 Jun 2012 #33
some of the best porn comes from denmark and norway datasuspect Jun 2012 #41
They haven't banned porn obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #49
I think your post doesn't have enough momentum to break through the reality distortion field. 2ndAmForComputers Jun 2012 #59
Whoopee - another porn thread. DURHAM D Jun 2012 #2
lol quinnox Jun 2012 #4
Yay ! whathehell Jun 2012 #12
Yee Haw! UnrepentantLiberal Jun 2012 #81
Is that true? Rex Jun 2012 #3
Of course not! cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #6
Not rape and assault porn. No. Fawke Em Jun 2012 #10
that's a myth, I believe reorg Jun 2012 #26
The "snuff" hoax should have been a credibility-ender for many cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #28
If you're just going to make stuff up cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #27
Are you saying porn is part of the whole freedom of choice thing? Zalatix Jun 2012 #25
Think of the places that have a very regressive view of nudity/sex/porn 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #53
Do any societies actually ban porn? sadbear Jun 2012 #5
I don't know the difference JonLP24 Jun 2012 #58
Malaysia, Thailand, Singapore... metalbot Jun 2012 #61
No one wants to ban porn; however, many feminists Fawke Em Jun 2012 #7
This really isn't very hard to understand. EOTE Jun 2012 #39
+1 hifiguy Jun 2012 #50
Because all those other things you mention are simulated 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #54
The Taliban would agree with you quinnox Jun 2012 #8
Refighting the DU porn wars of 2007 is NOT a good idea bluestateguy Jun 2012 #9
There was a Porn War in 2007? Rex Jun 2012 #11
A porn war 5 years ago GObamaGO Jun 2012 #13
What if they gave a porn war... Dr. Strange Jun 2012 #44
LOL! Javaman Jun 2012 #47
DUZY!!! obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #52
What if they made porn whathehell Jun 2012 #119
Who won? DURHAM D Jun 2012 #16
Pah. More like, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, late 2011 Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #36
Who do I see about fitting pitbulls into the next schedule? FSogol Jun 2012 #46
LMAO GObamaGO Jun 2012 #48
Would showing porn at the Olive Garden... FrodosPet Jun 2012 #66
That has been tried-However, when the issues are muddled, people forget which side they're supposed Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #117
That's funny! You left out Indigo Children, though. yardwork Jun 2012 #116
Begun the porn wars have . . . 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #55
Ah, like Saudi Arabia! backscatter712 Jun 2012 #14
ok then, afghanistan now we have liberated them nt msongs Jun 2012 #15
In 2005, I saw Afghan guys get all hot and bothered... Comrade Grumpy Jun 2012 #113
No, like Denmark and Norway! whathehell Jun 2012 #20
It goes to demonstrate the correlation between porn and violence against women... backscatter712 Jun 2012 #22
No, I don't think so.. whathehell Jun 2012 #23
Yes, very much so. EOTE Jun 2012 #67
Disingenuous isn't just a river in Egypt cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #24
No, it's the sewer that runs from the vinyard of sour grapes, lol. whathehell Jun 2012 #31
Both Denmark and Norway have free and open access to pornography. EOTE Jun 2012 #40
You don't understand what Whathehell is saying. shcrane71 Jun 2012 #51
I very well do. EOTE Jun 2012 #57
I'm afraid you very well don't. whathehell Jun 2012 #63
You're more than welcome to actually SAY when you mean, rather than making vague allusions. EOTE Jun 2012 #65
I have no idea what "vague allusions" you're referring to, whathehell Jun 2012 #69
You're interested enough to respond. EOTE Jun 2012 #70
Whatever. In any case, it's clear you're far more interested than I am, and that being reality, whathehell Jun 2012 #76
Yet another brilliant post of immense substance! EOTE Jun 2012 #80
Brilliance isn't generally perceived by mediocrity. whathehell Jun 2012 #102
I'll ask you once again, in all honesty... EOTE Jun 2012 #104
And your responses are quite hilarious. EOTE Jun 2012 #107
Glad you enjoyed them! whathehell Jun 2012 #111
No more smilies and snark? Whatever will I do? EOTE Jun 2012 #114
If you go back to the post to which I responded, you'll see I wasn't speaking of pornography here whathehell Jun 2012 #62
The post you responded to was #14, where the poster talks about Saudi Arabia banning pornography. EOTE Jun 2012 #64
Neither Denmark nor Norway have banned porn in the slightest. apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #92
She'll tell you that that's not the point. EOTE Jun 2012 #98
They found porn at OBL's house. tabatha Jun 2012 #18
There was some "live" porn going on at the White House once upon a time. L0oniX Jun 2012 #60
Apparently porn is widely available in Arab countries, even though it is banned. tabatha Jun 2012 #19
Do you dare suggest that prohibition doesn't work? Incitatus Jun 2012 #21
Hmm..Let's think about that for a moment.. whathehell Jun 2012 #29
thank you. why do they keep ignoring that point? LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author whathehell Jun 2012 #34
You're welcome and you ask an excellent question whathehell Jun 2012 #35
Well said. Exactly the point. n/t DLevine Jun 2012 #37
Thank you. n/t whathehell Jun 2012 #43
prohibition and social pressure are two different things RainDog Jun 2012 #38
Yes. The thing is, I didn't introduce that concept into the discussion. whathehell Jun 2012 #42
Your post, #29 states RainDog Jun 2012 #94
The key is "for all practical purposes"....Perhaps I should have put quote marks around whathehell Jun 2012 #100
No racial slurs in public? jeff47 Jun 2012 #73
Any other hairs you'd like to split? whathehell Jun 2012 #78
It's splitting hairs to point out your post is completely wrong? jeff47 Jun 2012 #85
Um, that's not what you did whathehell Jun 2012 #105
This has got to be one of the most absurd false analogies I've ever seen spun on DU. n/t. apocalypsehow Jun 2012 #93
Sure. whathehell Jun 2012 #101
Cuba flamingdem Jun 2012 #30
same w/ the soviet union BOG PERSON Jun 2012 #68
Locking. Please repost in the newest forum: General Discussion-Porn FSogol Jun 2012 #45
the most crowded forum lame54 Jun 2012 #74
Well we have the First Amendment, so we cannot ban it, treestar Jun 2012 #56
...... whathehell Jun 2012 #118
Societies that ban women treat porn really well undeterred Jun 2012 #71
excellent logic you've got going there, and of course no on is calling for a ban StarryNight Jun 2012 #72
It certainly does test the theory that porn leads to dehumanizing women which leads to 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #75
The most pertinent point, IMO, was the "countries that ban porn = Women as 3rd class citizens" whathehell Jun 2012 #82
However 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #83
Yes, I think we're all aware of that. whathehell Jun 2012 #89
It's interesting 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #90
Okay, I'm about done with you, but whathehell Jun 2012 #97
Er, you kinda ignored my point 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #106
Er, you kinda ignored mine as well. whathehell Jun 2012 #108
Tschüss 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #109
Well, in his defense... EOTE Jun 2012 #110
Well, in mine whathehell Jun 2012 #112
I thought I wasn't going to get blessed with your insightful posts anymore? EOTE Jun 2012 #115
The INHERENT connection is personal freedom and privacy cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #87
Excellent post that ties all of the theoretical threads hifiguy Jun 2012 #88
Sorry, but that's not an "inherent" connection, it's a LEGAL one, and as such whathehell Jun 2012 #91
You're missing the point. hifiguy Jun 2012 #95
No, you're missing mine whathehell Jun 2012 #99
Thank you. n/t whathehell Jun 2012 #79
Thank you...Most men here react to negative commentary on ANY sort of porn like the prototypical whathehell Jun 2012 #120
Post hoc ergo prompter hoc. LanternWaste Jun 2012 #77
No, you are mistaken cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #86
The word "therefore" is not necc if it is implied. LanternWaste Jun 2012 #96
Now you add mind-reading cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #103
like they do in China? hobbit709 Jun 2012 #84
This message was self-deleted by its author creatives4innovation Jan 2016 #121
Sad creatives4innovation Jan 2016 #122
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