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AnnieBW

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2. But let's keep on blocking family planning!

Reply to applegrove (Original post)

Wed Jun 20, 2012, 10:41 PM

Jun 2012

Because Jeebus wants us all to have 18 kids like the Duggars!

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"Is a human 'population bomb' ticking?" at AlJazeera [View all] applegrove Jun 2012 OP

this took a lot of guts from Al-Jazz DonCoquixote Jun 2012 #1

But let's keep on blocking family planning! AnnieBW Jun 2012 #2

So true. applegrove Jun 2012 #3

Republicans keep getting in the way of that one. Megahurtz Jun 2012 #69

I don't like 'doom and gloom' pronouncements. randome Jun 2012 #4

We're headed for a major die-off even if we DO do something and do it fast. nt Speck Tater Jun 2012 #6

Agreed. n/t DLevine Jun 2012 #13

And maybe if we look at some world statistics we may already be experiencing that die-off. I am jwirr Jun 2012 #18

Aka no American Dream and no middle class lifestyle dkf Jun 2012 #5

Everyone needs to come to grips with what they mean by "population bomb" Zalatix Jun 2012 #7

So we should simply breed ourselves to extinction because someone SOMEWHERE... randome Jun 2012 #9

What do you mean an after tax rate of 10% for each child? morningfog Jun 2012 #10

We have too damned many people, too. randome Jun 2012 #12

Prosperity is the most effective known form of population control. Zalatix Jun 2012 #14

Prosperity also increases resource depletion. randome Jun 2012 #16

So what are you doing to help reduce resource usage? Zalatix Jun 2012 #17

True. I'm selfish. randome Jun 2012 #22

A population of a million could clear cut whole forests. Zalatix Jun 2012 #77

No, education of women is ... eppur_se_muova Jun 2012 #74

us fertility rate = 2.1. population growth in the us has been solely due to immigration for HiPointDem Jun 2012 #57

Zalax is correct. Resist. -eom Huey P. Long Jun 2012 #15

And this explains why they do not see the economic division between haves and have nots as bad. jwirr Jun 2012 #19

They pretty much expect the population bomb to do all the social Darwinism work for them. Zalatix Jun 2012 #20

Very good point. jwirr Jun 2012 #21

Actually there are limits to the carrying capacity of any environment nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #24

Any size population in a non-sustainable civilization can exceed its carrying capacity Zalatix Jun 2012 #78

But we are in that chain nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #80

I know, that is why we need a global sustainability revolution. Zalatix Jun 2012 #81

Here is the beauty of it nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #82

I like your remarks on this subject. randome Jun 2012 #83

+1 HiPointDem Jun 2012 #55

I believe we'll go past 8 billion anyway. Selatius Jun 2012 #8

We will reach a point in the coming decades where the human population will peak and then decline. morningfog Jun 2012 #11

A popular theory starting since at least the 1700s 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #23

Said one bacterium to the other NickB79 Jun 2012 #26

We can grow food 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #27

Food crops aren't the equivalent of agar solution in the scenario NickB79 Jun 2012 #29

"Can you grow the biosphere?" 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #35

It can replenish itself if given the chance, but we are degrading it NickB79 Jun 2012 #41

With proper management processes, yes we can 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #43

Do you see proper management processes working on a global level? NickB79 Jun 2012 #53

Yes, to your first question 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #60

I WANT to believe you're right. randome Jun 2012 #63

Seems to be a bit of a jump there The2ndWheel Jun 2012 #72

Good point. randome Jun 2012 #32

Possibly 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #38

Actually nobody has predicted species extinction nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #36

Ok, so replace extinction with population crash 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #39

We have never done in a wold scale nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #44

We've managed so far The2ndWheel Jun 2012 #30

"I've driven drunk plenty of times and nothing bad's happened yet!" NickB79 Jun 2012 #37

But we're not talking about simply one catastrophic event causing everything to unravel 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #40

We also had entire continents to export our surplus populations to NickB79 Jun 2012 #46

To other parts of the world 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #48

You can't just pick up a farm and plop it down somewhere else NickB79 Jun 2012 #58

"You can't just pick up a farm and plop it down somewhere else" I guess that's why to this day 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #61

The Fertile Crescent was quite similar to current breadbasket regions when ag. arose NickB79 Jun 2012 #64

Based on your logic 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #65

"Current patterns of consumption are wiping out the planet's biodiversity" greyl Jun 2012 #42

And the OP 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #45

False. The OP contains sober facts some people don't enjoy facing. nt greyl Jun 2012 #49

If we continue to import corn at these rates 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #52

Oh, you aren't being serious. greyl Jun 2012 #56

I imagine that perceiving either complete safety or complete disaster LanternWaste Jun 2012 #66

We live in a test tube laundry_queen Jun 2012 #25

The earth isn't a test tube 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #28

Energy capture which is dependant upon clean air, clean water and fertile soil NickB79 Jun 2012 #34

Resources are finite laundry_queen Jun 2012 #47

"Everything else is finite" 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #50

when you disrupt the ratios of laundry_queen Jun 2012 #68

I don't think any serious scientist is worried about us running out 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #71

Now you're being deliberately obtuse. nt laundry_queen Jun 2012 #75

Not at all 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #76

Have we actually changed the ratio of Oxygen to other gases in the atmosphere nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #79

Monsanto is working on the problem... L0oniX Jun 2012 #31

We went from 2 billion to 7 billion in a few decades stuntcat Jun 2012 #33

Paul Ehrlich wrote "The Population Bomb" in 1968. The scenario has not improved since then. 11 Bravo Jun 2012 #51

world fertility rate 2009 = 2.47 children per woman. should be less now since the economic bust. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #54

Not necessarily. randome Jun 2012 #59

On track to ZPG, when we're already several billion over carrying capacity? NickB79 Jun 2012 #62

At the end of the Song Dynasty, China's population declined by about half FarCenter Jun 2012 #67

there is plenty of space on the planet for the 99% Ghost of Huey Long Jun 2012 #70

2012 WWF Living Planet Report muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #73