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It a taboo, is what it is, a forbidden subject. bemildred Jun 2012 #1
If the subject had been viagra and the roles reversed TBMASE Jun 2012 #2
A male co-worker saying to female co-workers 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #3
This isn't a hypothetical situation. Cerridwen Jun 2012 #17
Let's look at this the other way 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #24
Why are you defending what the legislators Cerridwen Jun 2012 #31
And that's ultimately how these arguments always end up 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #35
Too bad you don't hold her co-workers to the same standard. Cerridwen Jun 2012 #42
What are you talking about? 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #65
You don't seem to understand what abusive Cerridwen Jun 2012 #76
Saying a rape accusation is inappropriate 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #78
Nice twist. Cerridwen Jun 2012 #80
You're just all over the place 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #81
Trying to keep up with your moving goalposts. Cerridwen Jun 2012 #85
Moving goalposts? I Don't think you know what that phrase means 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #90
As you began your play here Tsiyu Jun 2012 #100
. . . 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #111
What exactly is the problem with a veiled rape reference in this case? antigone382 Jun 2012 #118
Very, very good point Tsiyu Jun 2012 #120
This is a particularly interesting response 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #124
I did not argue two contradictory conclusions at the same time. antigone382 Jun 2012 #141
Good question 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #150
Would the left be willing or able to eject that speaker from the floor, however? antigone382 Jun 2012 #169
Really it depends on the state 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #171
You aren't helping yourself at all Tsiyu Jun 2012 #119
This is getting repetitive 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #125
We are always legends Tsiyu Jun 2012 #131
In this case it's true 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #132
you are trying to justify the censure of a female legislator Tsiyu Jun 2012 #136
No, I was pointing out the characterization that she was punished 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #138
Most of us here at DU get nuance Tsiyu Jun 2012 #140
" I think we all know that no matter what the female legislator said, she would have been censured" 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #145
Again, fuck off Tsiyu Jun 2012 #147
You respond to me then say fuck off then respond then say fuck off 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #153
want me to say it again? n/t Tsiyu Jun 2012 #155
No please! I can't handle another! 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #162
It is about her body. It is about every woman's body. And that charge of implying rape Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #47
"no means no" TBMASE Jun 2012 #51
No, that is a clear statement of fact. No does mean no in every case, the implication Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #69
In the context she said it, it's more closely affiliated with date rape TBMASE Jun 2012 #72
No, it isn't. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #83
Who was interested in her vagina? TBMASE Jun 2012 #86
Apparently you are. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #91
yeah, and I don't take no as an answer either TBMASE Jun 2012 #93
Which part are you denying? 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #68
See above reply, no does mean no, the implication being pushed is a fabrication. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #75
So "no means no" in this context refers to . . . 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #79
It is a three word sentence. What are you finding so difficult to understand? Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #89
"No, this legislation is wrong." 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #92
And like the other guy determined to push this false premise in this thread, the only implication of Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #94
Just to go on record, you are stating 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #110
You are the only one arguing the absurd in this thread Tsiyu Jun 2012 #127
Since you chose to respond 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #128
Who the fuck cares but you? Tsiyu Jun 2012 #135
Because it is the entirety of what people are disagreeing with me on 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #137
Your intital post was about a male raising the issue of his penis Tsiyu Jun 2012 #143
My first post was pointing out that this wasn't about 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #148
And I'm sorry if you don't understand Tsiyu Jun 2012 #151
None of those accusations hold water 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #154
Just one more thing. Upthread you said Tsiyu Jun 2012 #157
You start with a conclusion 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #164
You're just making up excuses. Sans__Culottes Jun 2012 #108
"You're just making up excuses." 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #112
If you had a vagina, you would find even "veiled rape talk" Tsiyu Jun 2012 #121
There it is again 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #126
You are the only one confused here Tsiyu Jun 2012 #130
So it goes from "it wasn't X" 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #134
I'm going by your many posts on this thread Tsiyu Jun 2012 #139
"This isn't about women's reproductive health at all! " 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #142
Fuck off Tsiyu Jun 2012 #144
There you go 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #146
You're obtuse Tsiyu Jun 2012 #149
You don't know what words mean 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #152
Ladies and Gentlemen, I rest my case. Tsiyu Jun 2012 #156
You make a number of direct attacks on my personally 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #161
That was your case? 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #163
I don't believe you. Sans__Culottes Jun 2012 #166
You've very well summarized this poster's intent. PotatoChip Jun 2012 #172
Thanks for the welcome! Sans__Culottes Jun 2012 #175
Thanks for the prop & the welcome! Sans__Culottes Jun 2012 #176
She is not passing a law about his penis. bemildred Jun 2012 #4
Really? It was about HER vagina? TBMASE Jun 2012 #5
Do you favor legal restrictions on access to abortion? bemildred Jun 2012 #6
No. However I do favor a civil debate on the issue among legislators TBMASE Jun 2012 #7
You stick with that argument. bemildred Jun 2012 #8
I think you're in the wrong place Taverner Jun 2012 #60
Is it because I expect legislators to behave like adults TBMASE Jun 2012 #66
Vagina is a "civil" word. It is used in sex education classes all over this country. kiranon Jun 2012 #98
We're still pretending she just said the word vagina TBMASE Jun 2012 #99
Of course it was about her vagina. aquart Jun 2012 #133
Bullshit. ohheckyeah Jun 2012 #11
Had a man said to his female counterparts TBMASE Jun 2012 #12
do you not know where babies come from? ejpoeta Jun 2012 #14
Had she said Uterus, I wouldn't have commented TBMASE Jun 2012 #19
it is about women and their reproductive organs. it doesn't have to be about hers specifically. ejpoeta Jun 2012 #29
If it were a discussion about the rights of the father TBMASE Jun 2012 #39
i see what you are doing there from your responses to me and others. ejpoeta Jun 2012 #43
And if another congressman calls her a whore, based on the beliefs of his constituency TBMASE Jun 2012 #50
The other congressmen did even worse Tsiyu Jun 2012 #129
Ultrasound. nt bemildred Jun 2012 #21
Ultrasounds are given as a matter of practice TBMASE Jun 2012 #27
Thanks for clearing that up. Definitely seems to involve the vagina. bemildred Jun 2012 #37
So does an OB/GYN visit TBMASE Jun 2012 #40
What's inappropriate is censoring a legislator in the legislature, bemildred Jun 2012 #45
Soooo, if the opposition called her a whore TBMASE Jun 2012 #48
They did censor her and call her names, that's what this is about. bemildred Jun 2012 #52
Did they call her a whore on the floor of the legislature? TBMASE Jun 2012 #54
Quit trying to change the conversation. Cerridwen Jun 2012 #58
I'm not defending anyone TBMASE Jun 2012 #62
They went after a Democrat. Cerridwen Jun 2012 #67
This guy says it better than I do TBMASE Jun 2012 #70
No he didn't. He's doing the same Cerridwen Jun 2012 #71
Then, you're saying TBMASE Jun 2012 #73
I'm saying women are under attack. Cerridwen Jun 2012 #77
I'm asking you to think about what you're saying TBMASE Jun 2012 #82
She was not propositioning anybody. bemildred Jun 2012 #84
Again with the hypothetical. Cerridwen Jun 2012 #88
How would I know? Why would I care? bemildred Jun 2012 #64
The subject was abortion. Cerridwen Jun 2012 #15
And you know this to be true...How? Bandit Jun 2012 #16
Was she simply referring to a vagina in general 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #22
You are correct in your thinking TBMASE Jun 2012 #25
Why? Tsiyu Jun 2012 #122
Would she feel threatened her co-worker said he was flattered by her interest in his penis TBMASE Jun 2012 #23
You make no sense whatsoever leftynyc Jun 2012 #49
Planned Parenthood and their associates TBMASE Jun 2012 #53
Your numbers are lies leftynyc Jun 2012 #107
I didn't say 90% of all abortions require it TBMASE Jun 2012 #109
This is EXACTLY what you ssaid leftynyc Jun 2012 #114
Once again, go get someone to help you read it TBMASE Jun 2012 #115
NO THEY DONT leftynyc Jun 2012 #116
I'm not spreading any lies TBMASE Jun 2012 #117
You simply cannot read leftynyc Jun 2012 #158
Argue with Planned Parenthood Virginia on this TBMASE Jun 2012 #159
What's with the lying? leftynyc Jun 2012 #160
Like I said, argue with Planned Parenthood TBMASE Jun 2012 #165
Right wing source (it figures) leftynyc Jun 2012 #168
So now the representative from Planned Parenthood is lying TBMASE Jun 2012 #170
You do realize that Adrienne Schreiber PotatoChip Jun 2012 #173
I grabbed the first article that came up in a google search TBMASE Jun 2012 #174
Just keep flinging it, I'm sure something will stick. This argument is absurd, you begin with a Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #33
then you believe her coworkers had interest in her vagina TBMASE Jun 2012 #44
Again with the false premise -> false equivalency -> straw man. You have no argument, Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #55
The false premise was her assuming there was interest in her vagina TBMASE Jun 2012 #57
Continually restating your fallacy will never change reality. This tactic doesn't work on Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #63
whatever TBMASE Jun 2012 #74
Bull. You're just making things up. nolabear Jun 2012 #34
The fantasy began when she decided that her coworkers had interest in her vagina TBMASE Jun 2012 #41
So their anti-woman legislation is all just fantasy? Tsiyu Jun 2012 #123
"Vagina. The word itself makes some men uncomfortable and they find it difficult to say." Initech Jun 2012 #13
Some men are so sensitive, they get all testerical when you say crude things to them. nt bemildred Jun 2012 #18
Those are the men that inevitably go totally limp from the devastating testeria the word invokes! Zorra Jun 2012 #30
Nice turn of phrase! Is that original? Mind if I steal it? nolabear Jun 2012 #36
Seems unlikely to be original, but if it is, I place it in the public domain. nt bemildred Jun 2012 #38
It's actually been around for quite awhile. nt Zorra Jun 2012 #46
How long until the conservatives in MI make it a misdemeanor to say "vulva" or "clitoris" Zorra Jun 2012 #9
So we should say cunt, bush, squirrel?? ananda Jun 2012 #10
uterus is the word the woman was looking for. nt seabeyond Jun 2012 #32
The reporting of this is disturbing as well DearAbby Jun 2012 #20
No, you got it. I guess the title writer didn't Cerridwen Jun 2012 #26
What are "Nice Girls" and what do they call a vagina? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #28
Lady parts or... WCGreen Jun 2012 #56
I guess TV news has turned my 7 year old nieces into bad girls. dkf Jun 2012 #113
Looks like we have a couple repub sympathizers Kingofalldems Jun 2012 #59
Defending attacks on Democrats. n/t Cerridwen Jun 2012 #61
In January, the former Michigan Republican Party Executive Director sufrommich Jun 2012 #87
"The Worst Attack on Women's Health in Michigan History" Cerridwen Jun 2012 #95
It is sickening Tsiyu Jun 2012 #101
It is. Criminal. Cerridwen Jun 2012 #104
Thank you Cerridwen Tsiyu Jun 2012 #105
:) Cerridwen Jun 2012 #106
"NO MEANS NO" is the (new) real reason, not vagina. Festivito Jun 2012 #96
I think the reading started at 6:00, it's 6:40 sufrommich Jun 2012 #97
That sounds like THE party tonight. Festivito Jun 2012 #102
lol, it looks like it would have been a blast! nt sufrommich Jun 2012 #103
Nice girls don't talk back to men, their natural superiors Retrograde Jun 2012 #167
"Nice girls" or any other women say what the fuck they want. flvegan Jun 2012 #177
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