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seabeyond

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41. is change.org ok with you. first one i grabbed.
Wed Jun 20, 2012, 12:29 AM
Jun 2012

Each year, the FBI fails to count hundreds of thousands of rapes in its Uniform Crime Report (UCR)—even missing many rapes that are reported to police. That’s because for over 80 years, the FBI has been using the same fundamentally flawed definition of “forcible” rape: “The carnal knowledge of a female forcibly and against her will” to track rape statistics in the UCR.

This excludes rapes involving forced anal sex and/or oral sex, vaginal or anal fisting, rape with an object (even if serious injuries result), rapes of men and transgender people and other injurious and degrading sexual assaults. Also, because the definition includes the word “forcibly,” police departments often interpret the rule (against UCR guidelines) as leaving out rapes of women with physical or mental disabilities and those who were unconscious or under the influence of drugs and alcohol.

A recent Ms. investigation revealed that the archaic definition plays a key role in the vast underreporting of rape in the U.S.:

· The FBI’s 2007 Uniform Crime Report listed 91,874 “forcible rapes”, but some estimates suggest the actual number may be 24 times higher.

· Police departments go to great lengths to look good on the UCR, the FBI’s comprehensive national crime report by which all U.S. police departments are judged, and federal funding is determined. Often this means interpreting “forcible rape” even more narrowly than the FBI does when classifying sexual crimes.

· Police departments across the country, notably Baltimore and Philadelphia, have been found to be juking the stats—coding legitimate rape cases as “unfounded” in order to make it appear that rape numbers have declined.

Without an accurate definition, we won't have accurate statistics about rape, and without accurate statistics, we will never have adequate funding for law enforcement to solve these crimes. A change in the definition of rape would lead to better law enforcement response and could thus reduce dramatically the incidence of rape.

It’s high time for a change. For rape survivors, a modern definition of rape at the federal level would acknowledge, once and for all, that rape is rape—and that the stories and experiences of all rape survivors count.

Make sure that all rapes are counted. Sign this petition to tell FBI Director Robert Mueller and Attorney General Eric Holder to update the overly narrow, outdated “forcible rape” definition.

http://www.change.org/petitions/tell-the-fbi-rape-is-rape
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http://www.thenewyorkworld.com/2012/02/09/safety-in-numbers-authors-of-book-assailing-police-stats-say-its-for-the-nypds-own-good/
To their survey results the authors added interviews with officers still in the line of duty as well and retirees. What emerges is a picture of police culture in which quotas to reduce crime numbers for the seven major crimes tracked by Compstat — murder, rape, robbery, felonious assault, burglary, grand larceny and auto theft – have promoted manipulation of numbers and especially the widespread downgrading of reports of serious crimes into lesser offenses.

“It’s intolerable that the numbers go up,” said Silverman, “so officers on the ground often downgrade incidents.”
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http://theuptowner.org/2010/11/30/the-numbers-game-does-the-nypd-manipulate-crime-statistics/
The disparity between local hospital data and police crime statistics supports the officer’s statements. In 2009, St. Luke’s-Roosevelt Hospital on 113th Street and Amsterdam Avenue treated 210 people for sexual assault, which it describes as rape, said Susan Xenarios of the hospital’s crime victims unit. Of those victims treated, 110 reported their assaults to police, yet the six precincts surrounding St. Luke’s Hospital reported a total of 58 rapes last year.
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http://www.drtomoconnor.com/1010/1010lect01a.htm
Here's an example of a typical police department's manipulation of crime reporting. In 2004, Atlanta's own police chief ordered an audit be carried out for crime reporting from previous years. The audit found that the city police department had underreported crime for many years in an attempt to boost the city's appeal to tourists and win the site selection process for the 1996 Olympics. The audit was carried out by the New York-based auditing firm Linder & Associates. It found that in many cases (22,000), crime reports were simply lost because the department was overworked, understaffed, and sloppy. However, in many other cases, crime incidents were deliberately downgraded, underreported, or discarded in order to make the city look good on paper. The result of all this deliberate activity was that the crime rate in Atlanta was reported as 7% lower than it should have been. The standard FBI crime report margin of error is 2%. It may also be noted that Atlanta has about 15 law enforcement agencies (university, hospital, public transportation police, etc.) which do not send their crime reports into either the Atlanta police or the FBI.
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http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/naacp-calls-for-independent-audit-of-milwaukee-crime-stats-h85pq8b-159204505.html
In a statement, Hall also said he is concerned by a Journal Sentinel investigation last month that found more than 500 serious assaults were misreported as lesser offenses. Those downgraded offenses don't get counted in the city's violent-crime figures, which Milwaukee police have reported as falling for four straight years. The Journal Sentinel review also found more than 800 additional cases that fit the same pattern but couldn't be verified with available public records.

Under Flynn's leadership, police have reported a 21% drop in serious crime since 2007. The number of felonies prosecuted by the Milwaukee County district attorney's office has dropped 2.6% over the same period.

"Such repeated broadcasting of crime statistics not only drives public perception of city safety, but also provides a key rationale for the public acceptance of such otherwise unacceptable police tactical impacts as longer police response times, steep racial disparities in traffic stops, and recently disclosed practice of unlawful body searches," Hall said.

"While there is no clear standard for error rates, we know that every city has an incentive to report a drop in crime," Hall said. "Reports of crime reductions may provide a short-term boost to city morale and perhaps even economic activity, but such boosts are illusory if based on false pretense. It is only the actual, sustainable, real-life crime reductions that create lasting and undeniable benefit for our city. It is important that the reported numbers reflect reality. We cannot chart a proper path to a stronger city unless we first have an accurate and realistic reporting of data."
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http://inquirer.philly.com/packages/crime/news.asp
Coverage of "downgrading" crimes
The department concluded that the unit had written off 1,822 crimes in those years, including 681 rapes.
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http://scholarworks.uno.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1599&context=td&sei-redir=1&referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fsa%3Dt%26rct%3Dj%26q%3Dare%2520police%2520force%2520downgrading%2520crime%2520statistic%2520in%2520u.s.%2520cities%2520to%2520the%2520fbi%26source%3Dweb%26cd%3D45%26ved%3D0CFYQFjAEOCg%26url%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fscholarworks.uno.edu%252Fcgi%252Fviewcontent.cgi%253Farticle%253D1599%2526context%253Dtd%26ei%3D307hT_XYGqfD2QXjk-W5Cw%26usg%3DAFQjCNEka6qzA2fDrH9YWudfZ8thqqXa0Q#search=%22police%20force%20downgrading%20crime%20statistic%20u.s.%20cities%20fbi%22
The New Orleans Police Department: Melding
Police and Policy to Dramatically Reduce Crime in
the City of New Orleans
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http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bal-city-rape-statistics-archive,0,7495701.special

he Senate Crime and Drugs subcommittee has asked representatives of the Office of Violence Against Women to appear in Washington to discuss the problem, as well as a Pennsylvania woman jailed by police who erroneously accused her of making a false rape report.The Sun reported in July that Baltimore for years led the nation in the percentage of rape cases in which police concluded that the victim was lying, with more than 3 in 10 cases determined to be "unfounded." Other cities have seen disturbingly high percentages of uninvestigated or dropped rape cases in years past, and a women's advocate in Philadelphia pushed for the congressional hearing after the Sun's investigation reignited concerns.

The newspaper's report "made me believe that all of the issues [in other cities] were not just idiosyncratic problems, but that there is likely a chronic and systemic failure in police departments," said Carol E. Tracy, head of the Women's Law Project in Philadelphia. "I think it's important to expose it, and to encourage the federal government, which has very little jurisdiction around this, to nevertheless exercise greater accountability on the data that it does receive."

Tracy's group reviews rape reports marked as unfounded by Philadelphia police. The hearing was authorized by Sen. Arlen Specter, the Pennsylvania Democrat and former prosecutor who heads the Judiciary Committee.

The Sun analysis showed that four out of 10 calls to 911 over a five-year period had not generated a police report, having been dismissed by officers at the scene. Victims have reported being interrogated by detectives about their motives and truthfulness, while others said patrol officers ignored their allegations.

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Really disturbing porn [View all] MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 OP
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I *think* Rhett's referring to the swarm of helpful minders MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #64
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Yeah, well, chervilant Jun 2012 #66
A quote from Stephen Gaskin, founder of the Farm Commune, author of several books: panader0 Jun 2012 #3
Poor Ina May doesn't know what she's missing then. LeftyMom Jun 2012 #7
Ha! That's what I just thinking! RevStPatrick Jun 2012 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond Jun 2012 #4
your link is to a woman who claims Kinsey was lying about sex RainDog Jun 2012 #8
yup. and there is a bases in my post. google, is your friend. across the nation police are seabeyond Jun 2012 #9
So how do you account for the National Crime Victimization Survey also saying it's going down? Major Nikon Jun 2012 #26
post 41. that is just a start. nt seabeyond Jun 2012 #42
Post #41 doesn't even mention the survey or address it in any way, shape, or form Major Nikon Jun 2012 #45
it shows that the crimes are not being reported or underreported. but, i have done this in the past seabeyond Jun 2012 #48
Many crimes have always gone unreported. EOTE Jun 2012 #62
You won't get an answer Major Nikon Jun 2012 #69
Couldn't hurt to try, I guess. EOTE Jun 2012 #70
I'll take that as a non-answer to the question Major Nikon Jun 2012 #68
Radical Feminists and the wingnut religious establishment are in bed with a lot of things Major Nikon Jun 2012 #22
which is kinda ironic RainDog Jun 2012 #23
yes. i notice how much empathy you have for the woman in the video. none. seabeyond Jun 2012 #24
you don't know what I think RainDog Jun 2012 #27
is change.org ok with you. first one i grabbed. seabeyond Jun 2012 #41
much better than a link to a homophobic religious nut RainDog Jun 2012 #46
Uh, where did THAT accusation come from? Zalatix Jun 2012 #47
You were exactly right Major Nikon Jun 2012 #28
amazing, isn't it? RainDog Jun 2012 #30
Been there, done that Major Nikon Jun 2012 #44
"Next she will accuse me of just trying to "shut her up"." zappaman Jun 2012 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author russspeakeasy Jun 2012 #10
so you support work from a conservative mouthpiece RainDog Jun 2012 #15
I'm sure that's true. MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #11
I'm not so sure rape has a correlation to porn riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #14
There is a correlation b/t religious conservatism and sex crimes RainDog Jun 2012 #17
Yup, I know that as well. I just think its interesting on many of these threads riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #21
i am not saying rape is up because of porn. i do not believe the fbi numbers on the rapes reported seabeyond Jun 2012 #25
I understood what you were saying. My point was that across these threads tonight riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #31
Actually, I (hope I) wrote that porn availability seems *uncorrelated* with rape incidence. MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #34
I'm so dead tired, I really need to get off and get some sleep. riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #36
You might want to reword the fourth sentence of your post. MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #37
LOL! Thanks! The best part of DU, helping a fellow compadre riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #40
The rates of ALL violent crime has gone down sharply since 1990. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #60
I don't know that we're on opposite sides RainDog Jun 2012 #32
I'm not anti-censorship either - agreed. riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #38
There is no correlation between porn and rape obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #55
Manny, Manny, Manny doncha know that porn is PRO-WOMAN riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #5
It seems that Conservatives, then, are the most ardent Feminists. MannyGoldstein Jun 2012 #13
my husband ws telling me that he has read where a lot of the on line porn is not willing seabeyond Jun 2012 #6
you keep posting things from religious conservatives RainDog Jun 2012 #12
are you talking about where the video came from? really? i dont give a fuck what site it came from seabeyond Jun 2012 #16
both of your posts here come from religious conservatives RainDog Jun 2012 #18
do you simply ignore what i type? i told you, top of google it is in youtube. i. can. not. open. seabeyond Jun 2012 #20
You certainly should care about what your sources are obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #56
Who cares who posted it originally? Fawke Em Jun 2012 #35
personally, i am appalled someone is harping about where a video was picked up seabeyond Jun 2012 #43
there are critiques about some of her claims RainDog Jun 2012 #49
Check downthread -- video discrediting her obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #59
I care about who posted it originally -- RainDog is right obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #57
A video that rebuts this video. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2012 #53
Excellent -- thank you obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #58
Some additional installments turned up. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2012 #71
I know that if I want objective truth I go to a born again christian 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #67
"...we need to take back our government from the Predator Class" Taverner Jun 2012 #19
"...we need to take back our government from the Predator Class" clang1 Jun 2012 #33
"If we want to reduce the number of degrading spectacles around us, we need to take back our PufPuf23 Jun 2012 #29
If one chooses to do sex work, it should be a choice freely made lapislzi Jun 2012 #61
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"Normal" The Doctor. Jun 2012 #52
What about that statement doesn't make any sense? Rex Jun 2012 #72
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