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sabrina 1

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85. Well, your last sentence explains a lot. I guess Russ Feingold wasn't smart enough
Tue Jun 19, 2012, 08:55 PM
Jun 2012

to realize what a rightwing Conservative Greenwald was.

And I suppose some of us see a direct relationship between Bush's WOT/Phony Wars based on lies in the ME, and our economic situation.

But for most on the Left, like Greenwald, the destruction of civil right here and abroad, the War Crimes committed by the Bush administration, were a little bit more important than anything else. Something about the value of human life over profits.

Greenwald is way to the left of you, by your own admission then. And if you don't like Greenwald, maybe it's best you don't read Scahill or Klein or any of the other progressive writers anymore. It's hard to tell the difference most of the time since all write about ISSUES, the same issues they always wrote about, which according to your logic makes all of them Conservative Libertarians. Which is what I thought.

As we have seen on DU, all of them have been criticized along with anyone else who remains committed to the same principles they held under Bush. Which is why so many democrats have signed off online forums and have taken their activities to real life activism, leaving the field to those whose views are more to the right. It's interesting to watch, and maybe a good thing, since not much is going to be accomplished with the kind of commentary that now takes place on political blogs.

I much prefer Sunstein in general banned from Kos Jun 2012 #1
Spoiler Alert Octafish Jun 2012 #3
If there were a way to measure the "cloud" of perception on CT banned from Kos Jun 2012 #4
Right you are. Octafish Jun 2012 #6
Thank you for posting this. Reminds me of what I want to forget I know-- Overseas Jun 2012 #22
Well, I hope you are speaking for yourself. I don't see this anti-government sentiment sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #40
Do you know anything about Sunstein? Just wondering! sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #12
Bush and Cheney belong in jail Electric Monk Jun 2012 #2
For the rest of their natural days. Octafish Jun 2012 #5
where's the "Greenwald is a Pompous Douchebag Either Way" option? dionysus Jun 2012 #7
haha RobertEarl Jun 2012 #8
... SidDithers Jun 2012 #9
Your constructive pearls of wisdom give me thrills, I can't deny. Electric Monk Jun 2012 #24
More wit and wisdom from the Angry Black Lady blog? WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2012 #10
Calling Greenwald a douchebag started on right-wing blogs... Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #11
Exactly, he was hated and is hated by the Right. That's how you could tell a rightwinger sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #13
he's a giant among men.. dionysus Jun 2012 #15
No, actually, he's not. That is why it is so odd that he was targeted by the BOA and their sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #18
you know two reasons why I'm not a fan of Glen? dionysus Jun 2012 #55
You've never read him but you know he's a douche? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #57
i've read his articles. they are posted here over and over. dionysus Jun 2012 #58
Well lots of his articles were posted here during the Bush years which is where most sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #59
How profound. Octafish Jun 2012 #14
On right wing blogs circa 2004-2008. Luminous Animal Jun 2012 #25
I did not see your comment before I posted mine. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #35
You will find that on Free Republic, try their archives! sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #33
Why do I feel Greenwald has far more integrity than Sunstein? Because Sunstein proposed sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #16
The guy who wants to silence conspiracy theorists also wants us to ''move on'' from Bush crimes. Octafish Jun 2012 #19
Omg, he really is completely ignorant of what the law is all about: sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #34
SUNSTEIN wants to ''MOVE ON'' from illegal Bush TORTURE and DOMESTIC SPYING lawbreaking. Octafish Jun 2012 #82
So over St. Greenwald the Pure. n/t Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #17
Lol, I'm sure he'll be crushed! sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #20
I don't give a fuck if he's crushed or not. n/t Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #31
Well, he won't know whether you are over him or whether or not you care if he is crushed, sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #36
I'm crushed. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #37
Don't be, we can't all be as fascinating as apparently Glenn Greenwald is! sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #41
And here I was, hoping you could introduce us. n/t Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #44
Sigh, no, unfortunately. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #47
Would you mind stopping with the smear tactics on me then? Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #48
I address what you write. What you wrote so far was to repeat the smears against Greenwald. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #50
Oh, you are and you know you are. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #52
So you can't, I didn't think so. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #60
So sad you feel that way. Octafish Jun 2012 #21
There are people here who are heavily invested in truth not outing DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2012 #26
Hi, you seem to be speaking about me in the third person. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #32
Free discussion on the Internet really bothers them. Octafish Jun 2012 #79
Meanwhile, it's "Austerity time! We can't afford _blank_ anymore." for everyone else. Electric Monk Jun 2012 #27
Yes, and Glenn also supported the Iraq war and the Citizens United decision. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #30
We knew that in 2005 when he first started blogging. He wrote about it in his book sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #38
Let's apply that kind of rationalization to Cass Sunstein. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #39
Um, I didn't write the OP. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #42
I know that, but you did write the post I replied to. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #43
What else what? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #45
Yes, we got that. You've two turrible things on Sunstein. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #46
Sunstein is being criticized for what he wrote. sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #49
And so is Greenwald. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #53
You are not making sense. What are you looking for? I have nothing personal I would want to say sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author Overseas Jun 2012 #23
Totally in Greg's corner. Torture on a massive scale. Practiced by Americans directly. Overseas Jun 2012 #27
There are two post #27s in this thread. Odd, that. nt Electric Monk Jun 2012 #29
It Gets Bigger: Greenwald broke the Gonzo-Comey-Ashcan-on-a-Deathbed NSA Superspy scandal story... Octafish Jun 2012 #61
I remember that. I remember Comey telling how he had rushed to Ashcroft's hospital room to protect sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #63
Years ago, as a teen, I dated Sunstein's now ex-wife. PCIntern Jun 2012 #51
Have you heard from her since? Octafish Jun 2012 #62
You're so clever about how you work talking about your conspiracy theories into GD. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #64
For years, you have called me a "conspiracy theorist" - repeatedly. So what's not true, bolo boffin? Octafish Jun 2012 #65
Yes, because you are, and because you smear me Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #67
Again, what did I write that is not true? Octafish Jun 2012 #68
To do that would fulfill your attempt to discuss CT in GD. Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #69
So, you can't find something I wrote that's not true? Octafish Jun 2012 #70
You need to take this desire to discuss conspiracy theories to CS. n/t Bolo Boffin Jun 2012 #71
If anybody knows how to navigate the politics of bringing Bush et al to justice, struggle4progress Jun 2012 #56
It's not noise. It's a pardon. The unelected moron Ford pardoned Nixon. Octafish Jun 2012 #66
No Truth and Reconciliation even. Overseas Jun 2012 #73
The bottom line being: you also have no idea how to navigate the necessary politics. struggle4progress Jun 2012 #76
We can't get organized without good information. That's where Corporate McPravda & Sunstein come in. Octafish Jun 2012 #78
Kicking. And thanks to the DUers with a sense of history... WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2012 #72
We have certainly lived through a lot of dangerous, brutal change. Overseas Jun 2012 #74
You are most welcome, WorseBeforeBetter! Octafish Jun 2012 #86
very informative thread, thank you n/t reorg Jun 2012 #75
You are most welcome, reorg! Here's my problem with Dr. Zelikow... Octafish Jun 2012 #81
Geez, that's like asking me to choose between dogshit and catshit for dinner. Chan790 Jun 2012 #77
Not at all: GG wants you to choose your dinner. CS wants you to eat the only thing on the menu. Octafish Jun 2012 #80
So you just discovered Glenn Greenwald? sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #83
Not at all... Chan790 Jun 2012 #84
Well, your last sentence explains a lot. I guess Russ Feingold wasn't smart enough sabrina 1 Jun 2012 #85
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