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In reply to the discussion: Wisconsin: None dare call it vote rigging [View all]Samantha
(9,314 posts)171. Take a look at this thread
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1072861
Here are four paragraphs quoted in the Bradblog thread. Check the link for a picture of those convicted and a link to the entire article.
"It is now officially impossible to know whether thousands of paper ballots being counted in the state of Wisconsin's Supreme Court election "recount" are the same ones actually cast on Election Day. It didn't have to be that way, unlike in Kentucky, where the voters never had a chance, and where high-ranking election officials have now been sentenced to more than 150 years in federal jail following "decades" of manipulated elections.
In 2009, a spate of high-ranking election officials in Clay County, KY --- including the County Clerk, a Circuit Court Judge, the School Superintendent, a former Magistrate, and several polling place officials --- were arrested in a massive vote buying/selling and electronic vote-machine rigging conspiracy which netted the criminals millions of dollars over the past decade. The federal charges included the County Clerk and other members of the Board of Elections having intentionally falsified election reports to include inaccurate voting results when submitted to the state.
One Republican election official pleaded guilty after the arrest two years ago, and the other eight were found guilty and convicted last year in federal court. They were sentenced this past March to a total of more than 1,871 months in federal prison.
And last week, in a separate, newly developing case, state officials impounded electronic voting machines in Perry County, KY after Republican candidates in last November's election complained of "vote rigging" on the county's 100% unverifiable electronic voting machines..."
Sam
PS: Those found guilty received a cumulative total of 156 years in prison. Please note, one of them was a County Clerk....
Here are four paragraphs quoted in the Bradblog thread. Check the link for a picture of those convicted and a link to the entire article.
"It is now officially impossible to know whether thousands of paper ballots being counted in the state of Wisconsin's Supreme Court election "recount" are the same ones actually cast on Election Day. It didn't have to be that way, unlike in Kentucky, where the voters never had a chance, and where high-ranking election officials have now been sentenced to more than 150 years in federal jail following "decades" of manipulated elections.
In 2009, a spate of high-ranking election officials in Clay County, KY --- including the County Clerk, a Circuit Court Judge, the School Superintendent, a former Magistrate, and several polling place officials --- were arrested in a massive vote buying/selling and electronic vote-machine rigging conspiracy which netted the criminals millions of dollars over the past decade. The federal charges included the County Clerk and other members of the Board of Elections having intentionally falsified election reports to include inaccurate voting results when submitted to the state.
One Republican election official pleaded guilty after the arrest two years ago, and the other eight were found guilty and convicted last year in federal court. They were sentenced this past March to a total of more than 1,871 months in federal prison.
And last week, in a separate, newly developing case, state officials impounded electronic voting machines in Perry County, KY after Republican candidates in last November's election complained of "vote rigging" on the county's 100% unverifiable electronic voting machines..."
Sam
PS: Those found guilty received a cumulative total of 156 years in prison. Please note, one of them was a County Clerk....
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Huey P. Long
Jun 2012
#44
Here in LA County, early votes are counted as absentee votes. All absentees are handled by ES&S.
robinlynne
Jun 2012
#95
Its not just the corporate media. Our 'representatives' are stone silent as well.
Huey P. Long
Jun 2012
#8
No evidence of electronic voting machime fraud during an election has ever...
GarroHorus
Jun 2012
#32
Exit polls are evidence. They are used to detect tampering in every other real democracy.
Exultant Democracy
Jun 2012
#127
They only detect tampering when the exit polls are horribly divergent from the results
GarroHorus
Jun 2012
#130
I don't have the time to teach you a poli sci statistics class, but your question is silly.
Exultant Democracy
Jun 2012
#182
No you question was entirely about the validity of statistical analysis as a check against fraud
Exultant Democracy
Jun 2012
#184
Ohio SOS Jennifer Brunner called Ohio's electronic machines 'easily hackable'.
peace13
Jun 2012
#139
Actually, the poster is doing the equivilent of the hear, see, speak no evil routine.
Huey P. Long
Jun 2012
#107
I recently read a third graders' essay that read much like your own statement.
LanternWaste
Jun 2012
#141
The tactic is tried and true. Make fun and name call to get people to dismiss.
Huey P. Long
Jun 2012
#75
The Democratic Party has a lot of resources. When will they recognize that
rhett o rick
Jun 2012
#12
One only need to watch/listen to which party/politician the Corporate media is fawning over.
shcrane71
Jun 2012
#23
Our framer's of our Constitution would have the majority of these election thieves in
INdemo
Jun 2012
#80
Your answer is a bit vague, but assuming that there is always some kind of paper audit trail, how...
slackmaster
Jun 2012
#135
You didn't read the article then.... Exit polling is rather precise.. When we send people
glowing
Jun 2012
#38
"There's no place like home"! Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Huey P. Long
Jun 2012
#50
Sworn testimony that something could happen is not evidence that it has happened.
GarroHorus
Jun 2012
#65
The same way we verify the votes were accurately counted with the old paper ballot.
GarroHorus
Jun 2012
#105
I'm talking about votes flipping on the machines. Give one instance of when the machines were
sabrina 1
Jun 2012
#118
Never ever, with proprietary machines, with proprietary software, owned and maintained by private
RC
Jun 2012
#131
When you are paid to 'not believe' something and your check depends on it
Huey P. Long
Jun 2012
#136
Instant RunOff Paper Ballots, Marked by Hand, Encrypted Receipts, & Ballots Counted In Public on
patrice
Jun 2012
#49
Spending tons of money to alter the results of an election is vote-rigging. nt
Comrade_McKenzie
Jun 2012
#115
Yes, it's unfortunate that A) unlimited amounts can be spent on an election by anyone, and B)
slackmaster
Jun 2012
#120
I'd never seen an electronic vote machine here in California until 2008 and it was unused where I we
ryan_cats
Jun 2012
#121
I'm sure they'll get around to calling it fraud as soon as they label the 2004 Ohio exit poll
TrollBuster9090
Jun 2012
#152
We could do a massive show-up on our own and count them ourselves. What do you suggest we do?
lonestarnot
Jun 2012
#164