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dkf

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36. I'm not advocating for pure capitalism just some recognition on what drives achievement.

Reply to Quantess (Reply #26)

Sun Jun 17, 2012, 12:51 PM

Jun 2012

Those are the things that produce all the crap we enjoy and expect and demand.

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Businesses do not exist to create jobs. [View all] Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 OP

The question is how can government create an environment conducive to businesses creating jobs. dkf Jun 2012 #1

The ONLY thing that "grows businesses" is customers. . .n/t annabanana Jun 2012 #3

Yes, and when people are not working or are not making decent wages Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #5

Conservatives dont want to shrink government. They would expand military spending infinitly. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #10

Yes, you nailed their motives. Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #11

Apple gets more business internationally than domestically. 64% of its revenues are overseas. dkf Jun 2012 #35

and 36% of their sales comes from a market that is 5% or less of the global population TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #58

That's a great point. Major Hogwash Jun 2012 #62

Do you have a suggestion? Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #4

We need an atmosphere of certainty for one. dkf Jun 2012 #12

And what about the mountains of cash businesses have accumulated over the past 10-15 years? Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #15

That's either cash they've built up because they can't repatriate it without paying hefty taxes or dkf Jun 2012 #20

And what would recommend doing about any of these things? Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #21

Business and Government need to cooperate. dkf Jun 2012 #29

So you advocate for another stimulus package? Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #31

If it is paired with longer term reform then yes. dkf Jun 2012 #34

What reforms are you looking for? Which ones would excite business? Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #41

Everything needs to be an investment for the future. dkf Jun 2012 #47

I like your ideas. Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #50

It is quite a pipedream. It ignores demand and is based on the premise that TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #53

Our companies are finding new consumers all over this world. That is what we should be aiming for. dkf Jun 2012 #61

Yes I have a suggestion, VOTE A STRAIGHT DEMOCRATIC BALLOT! xtraxritical Jun 2012 #17

Yes, indeed! Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #22

Democrat Does Not Equal Progressive William deB. Mills Jun 2012 #49

Who are the Green or Socialist candidates? Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #54

Bringing Minor Parties into the Debate William deB. Mills Jun 2012 #56

It appears neither the Green Party or Socialist Party has a set candidate. Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #59

Parties in the 2012 Race William deB. Mills Jun 2012 #69

An "atmosphere of certainty"? Ruby the Liberal Jun 2012 #52

I look at it differently.... Wounded Bear Jun 2012 #7

You nailed it. freshwest Jun 2012 #9

Exactly. And it's why regulation works. Auggie Jun 2012 #13

You can't coerce anyone into creating a job. dkf Jun 2012 #14

Get real.... Wounded Bear Jun 2012 #18

Or it encourages them to move elsewhere. dkf Jun 2012 #30

You may not be able to do it but people can be coerced into creating jobs. GOTV Jun 2012 #68

"....an environment conducive to businesses creating jobs...." = a healthy, kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #40

Put everyone to work either in the military or producing weapons 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #48

Easy. Put money in people's pockets. Only consumer demand creates jobs. GOTV Jun 2012 #66

This is something that should be repeated, and annabanana Jun 2012 #2

It depends on what you want the outcome to be nobodyspecial Jun 2012 #6

They don't care ..... Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #23

True and now they are apparently more profitable than ever and not creating jobs treestar Jun 2012 #8

How do you qualify for not fitting in the capitalist mode? Not studying and getting an education? dkf Jun 2012 #16

What about people with no option to get an education? treestar Jun 2012 #19

Are you really that obtuse? Quantess Jun 2012 #26

I'm not advocating for pure capitalism just some recognition on what drives achievement. dkf Jun 2012 #36

Okay, that I can understand. So you are a devil's advocate, then? Quantess Jun 2012 #38

The answer to your question.. girl gone mad Jun 2012 #65

Who in the USA decides "to do nothing"? Oh, besides trust-fund kids who Quantess Jun 2012 #45

Capitalists, always see cutting labor costs as one of the best ways to make a profit. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #24

Of course. And for a few hundred years formula has served well. Zax2me Jun 2012 #25

Yes. It is customers who create the jobs. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #27

Economics 101 Bluzmann57 Jun 2012 #28

China figured it out. dkf Jun 2012 #37

Exactly Samantha Jun 2012 #63

Demand = Jobs. But each job must create a profit to be retained. lynne Jun 2012 #32

And maintain profit (or otherwise enrich executvies) = outsourcing. BadgerKid Jun 2012 #46

The ultimate goal of business The Wizard Jun 2012 #33

as a guy who has owned two businesses hfojvt Jun 2012 #39

Why would you establish a business if there was no intent to make profit? Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #42

the purpose of my business hfojvt Jun 2012 #51

So Government Should Never Be Pro-Business William deB. Mills Jun 2012 #43

Well, Mitt says "Corporations are people, too, my friend." Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #44

Corporations Are People William deB. Mills Jun 2012 #55

Excellent. You said so much very well. Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #60

Businesses do not exist to create jobs. That is the fundamental problem with capitalism. Zalatix Jun 2012 #57

True...but of course, businesses need to hire people to run them. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #64

Agreed! n/t hrmjustin Jun 2012 #71

Every business I've ever worked for needed to hire people in order to operate slackmaster Jun 2012 #67

True, but business 101 says hold down expense Spike89 Jun 2012 #70