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ProSense

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Sat Jun 16, 2012, 01:06 AM

Jun 2012

"Um, isn't it upon the accuser to prove the accusation?"

...you're defending Munro? I'm referring to your accusation that people are throwing around the term racism.

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First African American President [View all] Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 OP

Truth will out malaise Jun 2012 #1

But he needs to get tough. Ban the Reporter AND whoever he works for from any Booster Jun 2012 #2

agree brettdale Jun 2012 #3

So they can add the accusation of Angry Black Man to the already lunatica Jun 2012 #22

If the same outlet did it again, Obama would look like a weak, pathetic chump. Marr Jun 2012 #34

Not to me. lunatica Jun 2012 #134

I agree. Avoid the "angry black man" mantra at all costs.. he's doing the right thing secondwind Jun 2012 #146

Why do we create these silly rules for ourselves that put us at a disadvantage? rucky Jun 2012 #174

Ban his news organization. toddwv Jun 2012 #148

- First President to have someone throw a shoe at him at a press conference. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #4

That was and Iraqi journalist. Not American. Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #6

OK, I edited my post to remove the part where I said it was an American, and that it took place Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #8

That was not about race at all. Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #11

Ah, now there's my point. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #15

But it is racism. lunatica Jun 2012 #24

Agree. Tennessee Gal Jun 2012 #25

indeed. + quite a bit. cali Jun 2012 #100

Repetition = proof. 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #136

Completely wrong. Zoeisright Jun 2012 #58

Why did they impeach Bill Clinton? Did they hate white people from Arkansas? Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #72

Because he left a trail of behavior loyalsister Jun 2012 #81

well said. cali Jun 2012 #101

Initiating a legal process (impeachment, even if for stupid reasons) against Clinton NYC Liberal Jun 2012 #92

+1,000,000,000 x 1,000,000,000 - Well put and definitely coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #98

+1000 Thank you. The fact that some here need to have that explained to them Number23 Jun 2012 #160

It amazes me how butterfly77 Jun 2012 #164

I have long suspected that many of the folks who go out of their way to dismiss, minimize Number23 Jun 2012 #165

Bill Clinton brought that on himself treestar Jun 2012 #105

+1 nt Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #129

And denying that racism is at the root of the disrespectful behavior makes you an enabler. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #87

I understand where you are coming from but I disagree. I think the Repigs coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #97

don't fool yourself spanone Jun 2012 #120

Facts Number23 Jun 2012 #159

Is everyone who dislikes Obama's policies a racist? Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #166

Yes. But only an enabling idiot with a deep and profound sense of denial Number23 Jun 2012 #167

So if Joe Biden had been President instead of Obama, Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #168

There is a saying, "if grandma had balls, she'd be grandpa" Number23 Jun 2012 #170

That's a long finger-wagging lecture, but you didn't answer my question. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #172

If the sky was orange, would it taste like Kool-Aid? Number23 Jun 2012 #187

Feeling sorry for the Shrub? freshwest Jun 2012 #9

Oops. I outed myself. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #12

or himself nt NoGOPZone Jun 2012 #57

Nailed it. Number23 Jun 2012 #161

I wouldn't dishoner the Office of the President by throwing a shoe at him ... Martin Eden Jun 2012 #10

Wasnt an American who did that brettdale Jun 2012 #17

NOT a press conference in the U.S. maddiemom Jun 2012 #21

Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #28

Well, I am enthusiastic enough about Obama to be a Star Member of DU. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #33

That's right. Noooo racism involved. At all. Nope, no sir, no how! Scootaloo Jun 2012 #29

And maybe the fact that someone always comes up with some BS like this means Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #30

excuses, excuses,excuses heaven05 Jun 2012 #56

Welcome to DU! (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #74

That's a standard right-wing rebuttal. toddwv Jun 2012 #149

It's an utter disgrace! A DISGRACE! And in my opinion it's NO coincidence whatsoever. calimary Jun 2012 #5

+1 LiberalLoner Jun 2012 #7

Well said. Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 #14

I agree. lunatica Jun 2012 #26

+1. But sadly it's not just teabaggers, and I'll just leave it at that. n/t Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #89

Absolutely treestar Jun 2012 #106

Where Mitt Romney was born is what matters SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #182

Then you haven't tangled with the birther element treestar Jun 2012 #185

Agreed. And amazing patience and forbearance from AA's. freshwest Jun 2012 #13

+1 It's fucking crazy. Poll_Blind Jun 2012 #16

where are the right wing commentators? brettdale Jun 2012 #18

There's a post floating around GD... Mike_Valentine Jun 2012 #102

Can people please get off their lazy asses and stop referring to us as a couple of letters? progress2k12nbynd Jun 2012 #19

k/r emilyg Jun 2012 #20

DUzy lame54 Jun 2012 #131

This comment ProSense Jun 2012 #23

LOL! That was exactly my objection to this moniker when it first raised it's ugly, Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #27

Here's the thing: ProSense Jun 2012 #32

You're absolutely right, it's not. OTOH absurdly inaccurate and nondescriptive labels isn't going to Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #85

The term ProSense Jun 2012 #86

Once again, I'm confused. That's exactly the point I'm trying to make. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #95

As a darker American you cannot feel empathy for another darker American??? curious_citizen Jun 2012 #36

Welcome to DU. kwassa Jun 2012 #169

I believe that it is the currently accepted way to refer to black people treestar Jun 2012 #107

?? I agree babylonsister Jun 2012 #155

This is the dumbest, most nonsensical post I have ever seen here Number23 Jun 2012 #163

Obama is the author of many of his problems. SylviaD Jun 2012 #31

so does this jerk Munro brettdale Jun 2012 #35

Sorry, not buying. tabatha Jun 2012 #37

No he is not wishy-washy treestar Jun 2012 #109

Bunk. Do you remember the reprehensible way they treated Clinton? n/t SylviaD Jun 2012 #121

They did not treat Clinton like this treestar Jun 2012 #123

They didn't demand his BC? That is supposed to show what? Vattel Jun 2012 #132

Of course it does treestar Jun 2012 #133

GWB's limo was pelted with eggs on the day of his inauguration. Flatulo Jun 2012 #38

Despicable anti-Texas prejudice. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #40

That was because he stole the election. roody Jun 2012 #84

No see, that was entirely different RZM Jun 2012 #42

We're talking about reporters in the WH press corps... CJCRANE Jun 2012 #126

By the WH press corp? ProSense Jun 2012 #43

GWB was a clown treestar Jun 2012 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author CJCRANE Jun 2012 #127

Obama wasn't 'forced' to show his birth certificate RZM Jun 2012 #39

He played that perfectly. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #41

Pretty much RZM Jun 2012 #45

Yeah, ProSense Jun 2012 #44

Yes I do, because even before he released it, only 17 percent bought it RZM Jun 2012 #47

Good grief ProSense Jun 2012 #52

It was a gift RZM Jun 2012 #59

Bullshit ProSense Jun 2012 #60

Are you sure about that? RZM Jun 2012 #65

What? ProSense Jun 2012 #67

Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #68

So ProSense Jun 2012 #73

No links? That seems out of character RZM Jun 2012 #76

Wait ProSense Jun 2012 #79

Candidate's family members are the closest of surrogates. Matt Romney, age 40 at an official Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #175

Not releasing it was not only an option, it was the BEST option. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2012 #48

The demand to see one was never made before treestar Jun 2012 #111

I think it entirely possible this was politically motivated, not racially motivated. Skip Intro Jun 2012 #46

Herman Cain was leading in the Republican primary polls Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #49

You can't be serious? n/t ProSense Jun 2012 #54

Oh, there was some kinda weird racsim going on there, if I remember correctly. Skip Intro Jun 2012 #61

Herman Cain ProSense Jun 2012 #64

The whole reason Rs allegedly supported him was about his race! treestar Jun 2012 #113

I don't ProSense Jun 2012 #51

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. nt Skip Intro Jun 2012 #53

And sometimes cliches don't work. n/t ProSense Jun 2012 #55

And sometimes knee-jerk accusations don't work. nt Skip Intro Jun 2012 #62

Yeah, ProSense Jun 2012 #66

And sometimes it just isn't there. Skip Intro Jun 2012 #69

Maybe ProSense Jun 2012 #77

Right. Skip Intro Jun 2012 #80

So ProSense Jun 2012 #82

Perhaps it is my vivid memories of how they treated Bill Clinton. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #70

Indeed. nt Skip Intro Jun 2012 #71

Poor Bill ProSense Jun 2012 #75

"They treat a lot of Democrats badly". Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #78

Well, ProSense Jun 2012 #83

This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 #99

Agreed Inkfreak Jun 2012 #103

No matter what political issues there were before treestar Jun 2012 #112

McCain was just a candidate, not President, but some factions did make a stink about his bith in Bluenorthwest Jun 2012 #177

Wn didn't they make such a declaration for Obama? treestar Jun 2012 #178

Yes, Racism I can't see this happening to a white President SoutherDem Jun 2012 #50

A lot of -ism's are still alive and well in America bigwillq Jun 2012 #63

so I guess I am the first hfojvt Jun 2012 #88

You're right. I thought it was the SOTU. I'll edit my post. Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 #96

Ok good catch treestar Jun 2012 #114

The guy sitting in on Ed Show brought this up. Left Coast2020 Jun 2012 #90

Dragging Clinton through the Monica Lewinsky trial seems worse. dkf Jun 2012 #93

you left out this - Zax2me Jun 2012 #94

K&R treestar Jun 2012 #104

If President Obama Actually Stood Up and fought Back BDPubsSameSame Jun 2012 #108

Why should he have to? treestar Jun 2012 #115

for what it's worth, this one has been banned OKNancy Jun 2012 #116

Now we see a post below where the banned treestar Jun 2012 #118

How Rovian. emulatorloo Jun 2012 #152

A poll was released this week saying basically the same thing KatChatter Jun 2012 #117

the racists are crawling out of the woodwork spanone Jun 2012 #119

First president to be compared to hitler 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #122

We're talking about the protocol of people in official positions... CJCRANE Jun 2012 #128

This particular rule was implied 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #135

Sam Donaldson's comment was a joke which Bush took in kind CJCRANE Jun 2012 #138

A reporter isn't an official 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #140

We're talking about two different things. CJCRANE Jun 2012 #142

The OP certainly makes the case that this is unique 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #143

I think this incident may be more related to the general breakdown in civility Flatulo Jun 2012 #124

K&R suffragette Jun 2012 #125

And the treatment of AG Holder this week cilla4progress Jun 2012 #130

Pure. Unadulerated. Reeking. Racism. BumRushDaShow Jun 2012 #137

Oh, please. Zax2me Jun 2012 #141

Enough. BumRushDaShow Jun 2012 #162

The president is Kenyan-American. The term African-American describes RB TexLa Jun 2012 #139

See Obama's bio Cali_Democrat Jun 2012 #144

Yes, that would be incorrect usage of that term. RB TexLa Jun 2012 #145

This definition makes sense to me: CJCRANE Jun 2012 #151

But you do know President Obama's heritage. I understand the term's definition has evolved to mean RB TexLa Jun 2012 #158

He's both. CJCRANE Jun 2012 #186

AND all this disrespect has come from middle-aged white people. jillan Jun 2012 #147

Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #150

I have said it before and I say it again Wolf Frankula Jun 2012 #153

The leadership of the Repugnants will use whatever works, period. Dustlawyer Jun 2012 #154

first Democratic president since Clinton Enrique Jun 2012 #156

Without reading through every post on the thread... RevStPatrick Jun 2012 #157

rofl Some of you still want to deny this level of disrespect and breech of protocol isn't racism. Happydayz Jun 2012 #171

I thought impeaching the President for a blowjob was kind of unprecedented (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #173

Clinton brought all of that on himself Happydayz Jun 2012 #180

I'm not denying that the man has been mightily disrespected. RevStPatrick Jun 2012 #176

Please, those pics of Bush being compared to a chimp aren't racist Happydayz Jun 2012 #179

How do you know he's a racist? Maybe he's just an asshole. Nye Bevan Jun 2012 #181

Exactly. Thanks, Nye. RevStPatrick Jun 2012 #184

This is by far the most disrespectfully a President has been treated, face to face, in my lifetime SickOfTheOnePct Jun 2012 #183