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29. You have to understand the context in which things like this happen

Fri Jul 29, 2016, 09:06 AM

Jul 2016

Used as hate at was in 1980 is understandably disturbing in your face nationalism
Used at the Olympics to celebrate the athletes, while not bad, is a little selfish.
Used at a political convention to drown out the disruptors, those who are still not over losing the primary, that is not a bad thing but rather a way to deal with those who could not be controlled.

Last night was not a nationalism thing, it was to prevent the disruptors who had been disrupting all week from further disruption.

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I can still remember the daily repeated chants of "USA! USA! USA! USA!" outside my office window. [View all] stone space Jul 2016 OP

Unbridled patriotism makes me nervous as well. That said at least it was a very minor part of the think Jul 2016 #1

What else would you have prefer that chanted? giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #2

Good grief /nt think Jul 2016 #3

Poster asked a simple question leftynyc Jul 2016 #5

You must not have read my post. Cheers /nt think Jul 2016 #8

I most certainly did leftynyc Jul 2016 #34

Patriotism got us into the Iraq war. think Jul 2016 #41

Bad foreign policy along with anger and fear leftynyc Jul 2016 #47

I love America but I am not blind to dark underpinnings of American foreign policy nor the excess of think Jul 2016 #51

I'm Patriotic ProfessorGAC Jul 2016 #89

Well I'm glad you didn't fall for the psuedo patriotism that included chants of USA and flag worship think Jul 2016 #91

The poster's question was legitimate obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #16

Certainly not "shut the fuck up" and not because it's too long... think Jul 2016 #21

How about MARCO....POLO! MARCO? POLO! MARCO? POLO! snooper2 Jul 2016 #86

That would be better and shorter... think Jul 2016 #88

Oh look I have a groupie. giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #23

They could have chanted "Hillary!". They could have chanted "No more wars!" stone space Jul 2016 #4

Lol, I think USA has been abused much like the word terror. giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #27

Like "Family Values" LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #39

Ugh, that one was absolutely ruined. giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #56

I think "America" has been abused worse loyalsister Jul 2016 #71

Was that being shouted as well? giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #73

I have no idea loyalsister Jul 2016 #79

Wow. grossproffit Jul 2016 #43

See, that's the problem with constant antagonism LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #53

Lol, could you have imagined the outrage if ppl had just giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #57

You tell no lies JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #80

how about "Hillary!" or "I'm with her!"? Surely you could think of a few more possibilities. Vattel Jul 2016 #12

Lol, oh fucking please giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #28

The SCSA "What?" chant? AngryAmish Jul 2016 #13

Absolutely LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #37

I knew it when I saw who was responding outraged & offended. giftedgirl77 Jul 2016 #63

“Veni, vidi, vici" progressoid Jul 2016 #62

No matter what they chanted, someone on DU would be concerned Democat Jul 2016 #6

There are not all that many things commonly chanted while breaking peoples' ribs. stone space Jul 2016 #7

Well since no ribs were broken during that chant, it looks like we're on our to way PersonNumber503602 Jul 2016 #94

Do you have a link to that news story? Boudica the Lyoness Jul 2016 #97

It happened to a friend decades ago. stone space Jul 2016 #98

That was 1980, this is 2016. The GOP has hijacked patriotism, we just rescued it from them. leftofcool Jul 2016 #9

For too long we've allowed Republicans to co opt patriotism Trekologer Jul 2016 #14

I wrote a thread on this in GD2016 -- exactly obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #17

A strong show of patriotism...lots of USA signs and flags too last night. Apparently not much jmg257 Jul 2016 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author sufrommich Jul 2016 #32

You did read the OP, right? I was referring to his fear about 1980 USA chants vs last night. jmg257 Jul 2016 #38

I'm sorry,I misunderstood you. nt sufrommich Jul 2016 #42

No worries - cheers! nt jmg257 Jul 2016 #44

Nothing even vaguely similar to that happened at the Democratic Convention. MoonRiver Jul 2016 #11

The inclusiveness of the convention ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #22

I'll say I'm proud to be an American. PrideofJefferson Jul 2016 #15

Well put leftynyc Jul 2016 #48

Thanks! PrideofJefferson Jul 2016 #50

next convention mercuryblues Jul 2016 #18

There are many slogans that have never been shouted while breaking peoples' ribs. stone space Jul 2016 #20

I have mercuryblues Jul 2016 #26

So the people at the convention would have supported your friend being attacked? hack89 Jul 2016 #45

I was more bothered by the rude disruption of an important message. lapucelle Jul 2016 #54

I think "we suck as a country" is the chant of choice. God knows that's worked for the sufrommich Jul 2016 #33

Wow two threads on this. ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #19

Was that while watching Khizr Khan? nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #24

Context matters. procon Jul 2016 #25

+1 spooky3 Jul 2016 #36

So now folks who oppose war are unAmerican? Is that the whole point of the chant? stone space Jul 2016 #65

You're assuming that the opposition shouts were genuine; some of us doubt their motivation (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #66

Do you believe the delegares are UnAmerican? stone space Jul 2016 #67

No, I don't, but I would point out that your incessant harping on the issue is a large part LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #68

Why are Democratic delegates being called "UnAmerican"? (nt) stone space Jul 2016 #69

I'm not; why are you equating democratic delegates with the violence of 36 years ago? (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #70

See post #25. Democratic delegates are being called "unAmerican". (nt) stone space Jul 2016 #72

That doesn't answer my question LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #74

They shouted "USA" while they broke her ribs, that's why. stone space Jul 2016 #75

So, anybody who shouts "USA" bears responsibility for that? Seriously? LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #76

Why are Democratic delegates being called "unAmerican" here in this thread? (nt) stone space Jul 2016 #78

I cannot answer for what others do LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #82

I told a story about what happened to a friend by people shouting "USA!" stone space Jul 2016 #83

Wrong time, wrong place, yeah? procon Jul 2016 #81

Why did you choose this thread to call people "unAmerican"? stone space Jul 2016 #85

No sympathies. None. The context you offered was completely misplaced and off kilter, procon Jul 2016 #87

Yep (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #90

And here comes the pay off. SQUEE Jul 2016 #92

You have to understand the context in which things like this happen liberal N proud Jul 2016 #29

I think at the Olympics it also seems a little arrogant. progressoid Jul 2016 #60

I think all countries show a little national pride at the Olympics liberal N proud Jul 2016 #61

I never liked those chants growing up, sarae Jul 2016 #30

A much different context RonniePudding Jul 2016 #31

Implicit in this chant... CanSocDem Jul 2016 #35

If Canadians started chanting Canada at one of their political events PersonNumber503602 Jul 2016 #95

Understandable you still feel the experience. apcalc Jul 2016 #40

The GOP stole OUR flag. We're just taking it back. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #46

^^^^^ (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #55

They should not be allowed to hijack the USA treestar Jul 2016 #49

Your first thread on this didn't work out the way you wanted BeyondGeography Jul 2016 #52

I agree with you runaway hero Jul 2016 #58

So, it's long past time for us to reclaim that chant, don't you think? (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #59

Look at this a different way GulfCoast66 Jul 2016 #64

What you should be afraid of: sarisataka Jul 2016 #77

Not everyone is a big fan of Democracy. Rex Jul 2016 #84

I was in college in the '80s REP Jul 2016 #93

I've never cared for it... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2016 #96