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In reply to the discussion: Gun lovers are just going to have to give up assault rifles. [View all]sir pball
(4,737 posts)389. I don't actually support *banning* handguns, but I do realize they're the bigger problem by 20x.
Quoting myself here
I believe in a nationwide, mandatory ownership license, with safety and responsibility training.
I believe in mandatory dealer transfers, where not only is a background check performed, but a record of the sale is made.
I believe in a "title", much like a car, where the duly legal owner of the firearm is documented, and it must be passed to the next owner, with record of transaction. Possessed by the owner, but severe penalties for not having it.
I believe in severe, mandatory, criminal charges for gun crime, including failure to secure your gun properly.
I believe in handgun registration.
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There were Democrats who didn't want, or believe in, civil rights in the 60's, too.
villager
Jul 2016
#156
Something that can't be used to murder dozens of people in minutes would be a start. nt.
MirrorAshes
Jul 2016
#103
Ah, the voice of ignorance. But, please continue to roll with that "hobby" nonsense...
Marengo
Jul 2016
#169
Difficult but not impossible. See post #266 for a detailed step by step how to guide. eom
MohRokTah
Jul 2016
#267
Haven't seen too many felonious gun violent perps get a pat on the back. They too are typically
jmg257
Jul 2016
#363
I don't get your point at all. Driving drunk is illegal, and other activities drunk
MillennialDem
Jul 2016
#104
Who on earth should respect anything you have to say on this subject after that ignorant gem.
Marengo
Jul 2016
#341
LOL! It's rare to see a such a public display of profound ignorance on a subject. But...
Marengo
Jul 2016
#387
In which conflict(s) did your grandfather win 3 silver stars? What was the branch of service?
Marengo
Jul 2016
#404
Sorry to belabor the point. you can be the safest gun-owner in the history of the known universe and
KingCharlemagne
Jul 2016
#91
I have a Savage Arms .22 Semi-auto with a 10 round mag. Assault rifle?
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2016
#32
But then how would they resist a tyrannical government / kill cops? ...I mean...er...Constitution!
alcibiades_mystery
Jul 2016
#9
Van Papen and the conservatives around Hindenburg thought they could "control".and
KingCharlemagne
Jul 2016
#89
If you are going to go through the steps to arm yourself, especially for defense,
jmg257
Jul 2016
#401
Sure....and it makes some sense - for home protection - for some. Of course they have semi-auto
jmg257
Jul 2016
#403
Market science says that makes the price go down rather than disappear.
cherokeeprogressive
Jul 2016
#35
Gun control advocates also tend to double down when called on their mischaracterizations...
beevul
Jul 2016
#291
Well, if your argument is that the price would go up, but not much, you're equally incorrect.
Marr
Jul 2016
#305
More likely massive and open non-compliance, with law enforcement agencies refusing to enforce
Marengo
Jul 2016
#366
I doubt much resistance would be violent, nor would it need be. Compliance and enforcement
Marengo
Jul 2016
#373
You know you've lost when you're trying to debate the definition of the weapon
KeepItReal
Jul 2016
#133
*He* doesn't know what he meant. He thinks AR-15s fire faster than other rifles. He's wrong.
Recursion
Jul 2016
#75
I agree we need to be educated so we may fight from a position of strength
MirrorAshes
Jul 2016
#135
It very easy to convert a semi-auto to full auto. Truthfully, a semi-auto is sufficiently deadly.
Hoyt
Jul 2016
#109
No, you've totally missed the point. Semi-autos can kill 50 people quickly. And if you want,
Hoyt
Jul 2016
#143
I've already posted a video of how to do it internally. The slide stock is a conversion too.
Hoyt
Jul 2016
#226
Beevul, it's a title with editing to make it fit. You know what it means, or should. Quit playing
Hoyt
Jul 2016
#242
Why? Germany, Austria, Italy, New Zealand, among others, all allow them and it's OK...BAN PISTOLS.
sir pball
Jul 2016
#36
So, you propose the absolute strictest gun control in the world, off the bat?
sir pball
Jul 2016
#40
The Constitution is hardly a perfect document, and it is meant to be a fluid document that
underahedgerow
Jul 2016
#196
I do what I can. I've done what I can on other issues, far too deep to detail here.
underahedgerow
Jul 2016
#273
I don't actually support *banning* handguns, but I do realize they're the bigger problem by 20x.
sir pball
Jul 2016
#389
No, I'd never waste a single penny on that horrible (outside of war) industry.
MillennialDem
Jul 2016
#303
The constitution doesn't mention hunting and sporting as the reason to be able to carry
FXSTD
Jul 2016
#58
Well I don't see guns, or oppressive government mentioned anywhere there. So...
GaYellowDawg
Jul 2016
#350
Do we have to pit gun carriers and gun haters against each other on this site again?
romanic
Jul 2016
#59
Not interested in a civil conversation with this people. They are irrational.
morningfog
Jul 2016
#96
I don't give a FUCK. Not trying to win an argument. Get o. It get the fuck out of the way.
morningfog
Jul 2016
#249
Honestly, we should ban all handguns. Let the fetishists keep their long guns, hand guns cause
MillennialDem
Jul 2016
#101
Orlando, Dallas, Sandy Hook, etc., prove semi-autos are plenty deadly, but gunners can convert
Hoyt
Jul 2016
#107
I'd like to hear about one instance of a mass shooting where a bump fire stock was in use.
MohRokTah
Jul 2016
#195
Once again, I have no issue restricting semi-auto pistols too. Just riding the wave of opposition
Hoyt
Jul 2016
#218
The first two videos ARE NOT automatic weapons. They are sem-automatic approved by the BATF.
MohRokTah
Jul 2016
#183
Look at what I said and stop pointing at each word. This is exactly what I said above bumpfirer:
Hoyt
Jul 2016
#240
Why would they do that? Gun hoarders have serious issues that will never be addressed.
Rex
Jul 2016
#166
IT takes a lot of money and a special license to buy an assault rifle, and only one manufactured...
MohRokTah
Jul 2016
#175
We are talking quasi-assault rifles and you know it. Everyone but gunners understand the target.
Hoyt
Jul 2016
#224
How else to converse with people who play the gun nomenclature game to avoid obvious.
Hoyt
Jul 2016
#238
As opposed to people who can't be bothered to know what they're talking about...
beevul
Jul 2016
#247
Words mean things and there is a VERY specific definition of "Assault rifle"
MohRokTah
Jul 2016
#251
Instead of creating new words, why not just call it what it is. A semi-automatic rifle.
Waldorf
Jul 2016
#274
Correction: Assault Rifles are capable of full-auto fire. These rifles are already regulated.
Eleanors38
Jul 2016
#181
Are you saying everybody who disagrees with you about firearm regulation is...
MohRokTah
Jul 2016
#259
As with the phony "assaut weapon" ban, lawn darts are not completely banned.
MohRokTah
Jul 2016
#340
the last two nationally prominent mass killers explicitly targeted whites
Angel Martin
Jul 2016
#228
FWIW, my husband is a hunter, bought a lifetime membership in the NRA many years ago,
napi21
Jul 2016
#232
Legal Gun owners are just going to have to give up assault rifles.... ummmm Nope n/t
DustyJoe
Jul 2016
#263
I don't think that being for gun rights makes me pro-massacre, but then I'm also for abortion rights
LongtimeAZDem
Jul 2016
#288
Stop calling them assault rifles - Use the proper name - Killing machines.
GoneOffShore
Jul 2016
#280
If you truly want to use the proper name, then it would be semi-automatic rifles.
Waldorf
Jul 2016
#290
Sorry, no. in any discussion about these devices, the best way to frame it is "killing machines".
GoneOffShore
Jul 2016
#329
I've been learning all my life and one of the things I have learned is that some people love
GoneOffShore
Jul 2016
#327
You demand that a current right be taken, then say "don't even start a debate, I don't give a damn."
MadDAsHell
Jul 2016
#352
I don't have a dog in this fight but I find these threads wildly entertaining. Anyone else?
WillowTree
Jul 2016
#353
The Gun Used by the Dallas Police Murderer is Revealed. It’s Not What Most People Thought.
tirebiter
Jul 2016
#361
Sadly, someone like him could have used a bolt action to similar effect (nt)
LongtimeAZDem
Jul 2016
#411
Shhh! Keep it secret from the gun lovers until after we take the House, Senate and White House.
morningfog
Jul 2016
#415