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calimary

(80,693 posts)
37. Well I happen to agree with you, morningfog.
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 03:22 AM
Jul 2016

You'll get all kinds of excuses and rationales and other crap about why somebody needs and just simply HAS TO have a massacre machine. Their problems just simply MUST become a problem for all the rest of us, I guess. Nobody can tell me there's a reason on earth why, that will ever make any sense to me. And Heaven knows they've certainly tried!

And their whole canard about the so-called "good guy with a gun" - hell, Dallas police were the absolute poster children of that, in the madness that erupted there, and look how nicely that all worked out. I'm fed up being held hostage to the 2nd Amendment. And no one can tell me it simply mustn't ever be touched. Baloney. If they can futz around with the 15th Amendment, there's no reason on earth why the 2nd Amendment must absolutely be immune to a few nips and tucks, and much-needed modernization, too. The 2nd Amendment desperately needs further amending. If we have ANY hope of reducing further carnage, that is.

Good luck with that, we can't even get agreement on DU n/t doc03 Jul 2016 #1
DU has a few vocal gun fetishists. morningfog Jul 2016 #2
Well I happen to agree with you, morningfog. calimary Jul 2016 #37
totally agree RazBerryBeret Jul 2016 #339
No, I have been here over 10 years pipoman Jul 2016 #338
There were Democrats who didn't want, or believe in, civil rights in the 60's, too. villager Jul 2016 #156
Its a modern sporting rifle SpookyDem Jul 2016 #3
Which bears an amazing resemblance to weapons first designed by the Nazis. NT Jerry442 Jul 2016 #6
What modern gun are you comparing to which nazi rifle? SpookyDem Jul 2016 #27
How about this one. Jerry442 Jul 2016 #65
Top one is a 22 LR nt michreject Jul 2016 #106
The first one is NOT an StG 44 MohRokTah Jul 2016 #264
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #30
Sporting rifle... What does that mean? 3Stones Jul 2016 #19
For sportsing of course SpookyDem Jul 2016 #25
Who the fuck uses an AR-15 for "sport"? MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #31
I use them for target shooting and coyote/pig hunting SpookyDem Jul 2016 #34
And you need an AR-15 for that? MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #57
What kind of fun should he use? NT Adrahil Jul 2016 #90
Something that can't be used to murder dozens of people in minutes would be a start. nt. MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #103
So no semi-auto handguns either? TeddyR Jul 2016 #116
Personally, I want them all banned. MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #131
Look, I completely respect your opinion TeddyR Jul 2016 #134
I appreciate the civil discussion, truly MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #138
Thank you TeddyR Jul 2016 #141
This is exactly what we need. Scruffy1 Jul 2016 #159
Do you want to stop mass shootings, or the quotidian gun violence? sir pball Jul 2016 #394
I want to do both. MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #397
i totally agree with you. I'm absolutely DONE enabling violence trueblue2007 Jul 2016 #244
Here's how you accomplish that. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #266
The amendment is silly in today's real world MyNameGoesHere Jul 2016 #375
No, you don't understand the opriginal intent at all. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #376
Sorry your opinion MyNameGoesHere Jul 2016 #377
Hard to write that into a law. Adrahil Jul 2016 #118
None of these killing machines are acceptable. MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #132
Not even for hunters? Marengo Jul 2016 #157
Hunters can find a new hobby. MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #168
Ah, the voice of ignorance. But, please continue to roll with that "hobby" nonsense... Marengo Jul 2016 #169
Ahh, the voice of an enabler. MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #271
Do you believe all hunting is for sport? Marengo Jul 2016 #407
What's your plan for.... Adrahil Jul 2016 #269
Sound's like "Bungalow Bill" SheriffBob Jul 2016 #162
Difficult but not impossible. See post #266 for a detailed step by step how to guide. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #267
Any gun can be used to murder dozens of people, or even a knife or bomb jack_krass Jul 2016 #336
Not based on need michreject Jul 2016 #108
So it is a toy to you and could be replaced with a shotgun for hunting KeepItReal Jul 2016 #127
you could but shotguns are not practical, for this range/type of hunting SpookyDem Jul 2016 #354
Nope. I use an actual military-issue sniper rifle for hunting. sir pball Jul 2016 #390
The majority of those who own them. beevul Jul 2016 #41
Ignorance you say? MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #54
Well.... Adrahil Jul 2016 #93
What a lovely straw-man. MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #98
Murder is illegal too. Adrahil Jul 2016 #120
Haven't seen too many felonious gun violent perps get a pat on the back. They too are typically jmg257 Jul 2016 #363
I don't get your point at all. Driving drunk is illegal, and other activities drunk MillennialDem Jul 2016 #104
Murdering someone is illegal too. Adrahil Jul 2016 #124
Thank YOU! smirkymonkey Jul 2016 #146
No. Ignorance is believing that any majority share your opinion. beevul Jul 2016 #170
Target shooting is a sport Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #179
3 gun competition shooters. ileus Jul 2016 #381
The Germans, they LOVE the AR but hate our sloppy manufacturing. sir pball Jul 2016 #393
It seems the sport they refer to is... liberal N proud Jul 2016 #128
Shooting guns is not a sport SheriffBob Jul 2016 #163
ahhhh the voice of ignorance melm00se Jul 2016 #180
Olympics also sees curling as a sport. liberal N proud Jul 2016 #194
No it takes skill Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #185
You have to make sure that trigger finger is properly stretched liberal N proud Jul 2016 #187
Pulling a trigger doesn't mean you're going to hit anything. beevul Jul 2016 #199
Me, my Loving Wife, and all three of our sons shoot HighPower. oneshooter Jul 2016 #258
The fact that something is hard doesn't make it a sport mythology Jul 2016 #344
It requires more than "physical strength" oneshooter Jul 2016 #346
Is it a sport if it's in the Olympics? nt sir pball Jul 2016 #391
Who on earth should respect anything you have to say on this subject after that ignorant gem. Marengo Jul 2016 #341
flame SheriffBob Jul 2016 #383
Then come on out to a match, and show us how easy it is. oneshooter Jul 2016 #384
LOL! It's rare to see a such a public display of profound ignorance on a subject. But... Marengo Jul 2016 #387
You are SheriffBob Jul 2016 #412
It's not the guns, even, it's the NRA. Barack_America Jul 2016 #4
It's BOTH. calimary Jul 2016 #38
^^^This!!! DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #69
its not the NRA, it is the gun culture they represent Amishman Jul 2016 #88
This is fairly accurate TeddyR Jul 2016 #117
The NRA isn't about members SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #126
I'm not familiar with their funding TeddyR Jul 2016 #130
It's not for lack of funding EL34x4 Jul 2016 #151
Actually, that would be the NSSF. N/T beevul Jul 2016 #171
Bloomberg has more money than the NRA Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #188
Completely wrong pipoman Jul 2016 #343
The death toll due to "gun culture" is strange. Igel Jul 2016 #147
Unfortunately, you are right. Scruffy1 Jul 2016 #158
The 2nd Amendment hasn't a thing to do with "need" or "hunting"....nothing pipoman Jul 2016 #345
In which conflict(s) did your grandfather win 3 silver stars? What was the branch of service? Marengo Jul 2016 #404
Don't forget the 90-100 million gun owners. That's a whole bunch of people. nt jmg257 Jul 2016 #123
disagree SheriffBob Jul 2016 #164
Open carry is totally idiotic Motley13 Jul 2016 #5
My son best friend is a concealed and carry person. I asked him why B Calm Jul 2016 #56
His possession of a firearm makes him on average 8.5 times more KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #80
When these two boys were growing up together I insisted they B Calm Jul 2016 #83
Sorry to belabor the point. you can be the safest gun-owner in the history of the known universe and KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #91
Cite your source, please. Kang Colby Jul 2016 #112
nah, not going to get in a pissing match with gun humpers. - nt KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #114
I think people are starting to get it. Kang Colby Jul 2016 #119
At least you admit what your statistics are composed of. former9thward Jul 2016 #177
Heh-heh. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #193
At least you seem to admit Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #191
You cite lies and pretend those who point it out are the problem.... pipoman Jul 2016 #347
Well, not totally idiotic. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #270
The humpers are going to swarm this, but of course you are right. Squinch Jul 2016 #7
If you put them all on ignore, it makes things almost tolerable. SwankyXomb Jul 2016 #23
One reason that nothing gets done in this country TeddyR Jul 2016 #122
Add me jack_krass Jul 2016 #356
How about rifles with 10 round fixed mags, like the SKS? nt jmg257 Jul 2016 #8
I have a Savage Arms .22 Semi-auto with a 10 round mag. Assault rifle? cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #32
.22 caliber firearms kill a lot of people annually. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #337
But then how would they resist a tyrannical government / kill cops? ...I mean...er...Constitution! alcibiades_mystery Jul 2016 #9
Yeah, ask them who exactly they plan to shoot and when? Jerry442 Jul 2016 #66
Technical Note: Hitler was "appointed," not "elected." The Nazi Party KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #81
Fair point. Jerry442 Jul 2016 #85
Van Papen and the conservatives around Hindenburg thought they could "control".and KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #89
{Sigh} Remember when "Godwin's Law" was an obscure Internet meme? NT Jerry442 Jul 2016 #92
Right, because people willing to murder never do anything illegal. appal_jack Jul 2016 #10
Why not make it harder for the murderous fucks, as you say? morningfog Jul 2016 #11
No & no at present. appal_jack Jul 2016 #12
Of course it would make it harder. morningfog Jul 2016 #14
Jesus... G_j Jul 2016 #18
+1 n/t IL Lib Jul 2016 #22
remember this? AntiBank Jul 2016 #47
Yes, fire extinguishers are for cowards too. appal_jack Jul 2016 #111
Maybe more like having a hook and ladder truck G_j Jul 2016 #136
If it needs to be parked in the drive way, it's a howitzer, not a handgun. appal_jack Jul 2016 #150
I had to call emergency services once in Maine.. sir pball Jul 2016 #392
I was referring to the imagined "need" G_j Jul 2016 #398
The only imagined 'need', is the 'need' to ban them. N/T beevul Jul 2016 #399
If you are going to go through the steps to arm yourself, especially for defense, jmg257 Jul 2016 #401
a lot of sane people G_j Jul 2016 #402
Sure....and it makes some sense - for home protection - for some. Of course they have semi-auto jmg257 Jul 2016 #403
Sure - if you are a good shot hack89 Jul 2016 #409
"Are you worried about the police and HS weapons?" sarisataka Jul 2016 #13
Yes. Two black men had guns and white cops freaked out morningfog Jul 2016 #15
So if black men don't want to worry about police sarisataka Jul 2016 #16
the shooter cop in Minnesota was a PoC, Jeronimo Yanez, not a white cop AntiBank Jul 2016 #48
We have what amounts to an open border to the south. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #33
The thing is, you DON'T make it harder for the murderous fucks... beevul Jul 2016 #172
If guns were illegal, they'd be very, very expensive. Marr Jul 2016 #28
Market science says that makes the price go down rather than disappear. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2016 #35
Just like cocaine pot and heroine, right? N/T beevul Jul 2016 #42
Exactly like that, yeah-- they're expensive. Marr Jul 2016 #144
Our survey says: Bzzt. beevul Jul 2016 #173
This says you're wrong: Marr Jul 2016 #182
So you want a war on guns, just like the war on drugs. beevul Jul 2016 #189
I'm glad you admit prices on guns would go up, at least. Marr Jul 2016 #192
Gun control proponents regularly engage in mischaracterization... beevul Jul 2016 #198
So the US and Australia are utterly incomparable, but comparing a Marr Jul 2016 #272
Gun control advocates also tend to double down when called on their mischaracterizations... beevul Jul 2016 #291
In posts #173 and #42, you very clearly made the comparison to marijuana. Marr Jul 2016 #302
In the context of its prohibition. beevul Jul 2016 #306
Obviously. That's the entire context of the discussion. /nt Marr Jul 2016 #307
Then don't accuse me of comparing pot to guns... beevul Jul 2016 #308
I didn't mischaracterize your comments. Marr Jul 2016 #357
Yes you did, and unless you edit or delete... beevul Jul 2016 #367
they would still be dirt cheap AntiBank Jul 2016 #50
Not according to this. Marr Jul 2016 #184
you erected a strawman. I never said it would drive the price down AntiBank Jul 2016 #252
Well, if your argument is that the price would go up, but not much, you're equally incorrect. Marr Jul 2016 #305
you once again fail to see that Australia is vastly different AntiBank Jul 2016 #311
Australia is a huge continent, surrounded by massive economies. Marr Jul 2016 #355
not only are you wrong, but this entire thread is based off AntiBank Jul 2016 #359
Not a fantasy, a hypothetical. Marr Jul 2016 #362
One man 'Challenged' the government just a few days ago. beevul Jul 2016 #364
Where is that Texas shooter, again? Marr Jul 2016 #368
Of course you do. beevul Jul 2016 #370
I'm finding it difficult to control my laughter. Marr Jul 2016 #371
How many did the DC sniper kill? beevul Jul 2016 #374
There's asymmetrical war, and there's Ammon Bundy-style 'uprising'. Marr Jul 2016 #379
More likely massive and open non-compliance, with law enforcement agencies refusing to enforce Marengo Jul 2016 #366
Those who expect a 'civil war' to help them defend their toy chest Marr Jul 2016 #369
I doubt much resistance would be violent, nor would it need be. Compliance and enforcement Marengo Jul 2016 #373
Sorry, but ganja price is still dropping. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #203
Sorry, but you're the one arguing against basic market principles. Marr Jul 2016 #234
Well hell, why have any laws at all then? Marr Jul 2016 #358
Thats a strawman. Nobody wants "no laws". beevul Jul 2016 #365
Common error. Straw Man Jul 2016 #372
It's almost pathetic that all of the mass shootings in recent SheilaT Jul 2016 #17
Modern military assault rifles never were meant for everyone. rusty quoin Jul 2016 #20
The weapons in question, are not "Modern military assault rifles". beevul Jul 2016 #43
You know you've lost when you're trying to debate the definition of the weapon KeepItReal Jul 2016 #133
We weren't debating the 'definition'... beevul Jul 2016 #176
Interesting virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #46
Agreed. That's why the US has banned them since the 1930s Recursion Jul 2016 #71
Way to twist the argument. MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #73
*He* doesn't know what he meant. He thinks AR-15s fire faster than other rifles. He's wrong. Recursion Jul 2016 #75
That is not the point, at all. MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #77
None of *which* weapons? Semi-automatics? Recursion Jul 2016 #84
Most people don't know all the terminology MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #100
Getting the terminology right is critical TeddyR Jul 2016 #125
I agree we need to be educated so we may fight from a position of strength MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #135
The Virginia Tech shooter TeddyR Jul 2016 #140
Rifles of any kind are rarely used in murders Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #197
What are "these" weapons? Recursion Jul 2016 #137
I'm not uncomfortable with it at all- MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #145
We tried that way once and got the disastrous AWB Recursion Jul 2016 #148
It is really very simple if you would just admit it Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #202
+1 Matrosov Jul 2016 #153
Or an ammosexual Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #205
If you are in the business of banning, you better. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #211
It very easy to convert a semi-auto to full auto. Truthfully, a semi-auto is sufficiently deadly. Hoyt Jul 2016 #109
None of those were converted to full auto Recursion Jul 2016 #139
No, you've totally missed the point. Semi-autos can kill 50 people quickly. And if you want, Hoyt Jul 2016 #143
So drop the "military" nonsense Recursion Jul 2016 #149
Time to ban/restrict semi-autos. Thought it was clear. Hoyt Jul 2016 #154
You're being clear; the OP isn't Recursion Jul 2016 #155
It is not easy and has not been for decades Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #207
Bullshit. beevul Jul 2016 #212
So this slide stock does not exist, even though it's sold on Amazon.com. Hoyt Jul 2016 #222
Were those goalposts heavy hoyt? beevul Jul 2016 #225
I've already posted a video of how to do it internally. The slide stock is a conversion too. Hoyt Jul 2016 #226
Not in this thread you haven't. beevul Jul 2016 #230
Fact is, real military assault rifles are used on select fire most of the time. Hoyt Jul 2016 #236
Fact is, you don't know what you're talking about. beevul Jul 2016 #241
Beevul, it's a title with editing to make it fit. You know what it means, or should. Quit playing Hoyt Jul 2016 #242
ROFL. beevul Jul 2016 #246
This message was self-deleted by its author SuperDutyTX Jul 2016 #21
The prospect of having to "give them up" is exactly what they live for. Aristus Jul 2016 #24
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #26
I'll keep my semi-automatic rifles. n/t Waldorf Jul 2016 #29
Why? Germany, Austria, Italy, New Zealand, among others, all allow them and it's OK...BAN PISTOLS. sir pball Jul 2016 #36
Yes, ban all guns NOW, in the USA. underahedgerow Jul 2016 #39
So, you propose the absolute strictest gun control in the world, off the bat? sir pball Jul 2016 #40
Yes, I propose banning all guns except those for agricultural purposes, underahedgerow Jul 2016 #95
It is HUGELY difficult TeddyR Jul 2016 #129
Most of the civilized world hasn't banned guns. Statistical Jul 2016 #190
The Constitution is hardly a perfect document, and it is meant to be a fluid document that underahedgerow Jul 2016 #196
Well then get out from"underahedgerow" and get busy. oneshooter Jul 2016 #260
I do what I can. I've done what I can on other issues, far too deep to detail here. underahedgerow Jul 2016 #273
What's an agricultural purpose? Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #210
How about "No". N/T beevul Jul 2016 #44
No.. virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #49
All guns? Adrahil Jul 2016 #94
Thank you. The 2nd Amendment argument for handguns is much weaker, too Recursion Jul 2016 #72
Interesting. Given the data and ergonomics, you might be right. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #216
I don't actually support *banning* handguns, but I do realize they're the bigger problem by 20x. sir pball Jul 2016 #389
I am under NO obligation to obey unjust laws.. virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #45
There goes that "law-abiding" BS. Hoyt Jul 2016 #86
And you've never broken a law, mister self admitted former robber? N/T beevul Jul 2016 #201
Good luck making your own powder and primer MillennialDem Jul 2016 #99
It is not a problem.. virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #281
No, I'd never waste a single penny on that horrible (outside of war) industry. MillennialDem Jul 2016 #303
Who's wasting? virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #313
Irrelevant to my point. I said I will never spend a penny on guns. MillennialDem Jul 2016 #314
But you do spend money on guns and ammo. oneshooter Jul 2016 #315
Oh brother MillennialDem Jul 2016 #324
Not a chance in hell. OccupyPA Jul 2016 #51
Aren't the majority of shootings done with handguns? JonathanRackham Jul 2016 #52
ssssssssshhhhhhhhhh nt michreject Jul 2016 #113
Yes Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #213
During WWI shotguns were used as trench clearing firearms JonathanRackham Jul 2016 #231
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #53
People that use an assault weapon for hunting suck at hunting. baldguy Jul 2016 #55
OK, what you've just done is shown that you don't understand what these are. Recursion Jul 2016 #70
Yeah - that handgrip sure makes a "wanna be" hunter a real wussie. jmg257 Jul 2016 #110
And you hunt how often? n/t oneshooter Jul 2016 #284
The constitution doesn't mention hunting and sporting as the reason to be able to carry FXSTD Jul 2016 #58
I'd like for you to quote the exact phrase in the Constitution GaYellowDawg Jul 2016 #348
The preamble comes pretty close. beevul Jul 2016 #349
Well I don't see guns, or oppressive government mentioned anywhere there. So... GaYellowDawg Jul 2016 #350
No, you don't. beevul Jul 2016 #351
"A well regulated militia" SheriffBob Jul 2016 #420
Do we have to pit gun carriers and gun haters against each other on this site again? romanic Jul 2016 #59
Yes. Because the gun lovers are standing in the way of societal progress. morningfog Jul 2016 #60
Discussions have to be made. romanic Jul 2016 #61
I've lost patience. Every goddamned time, these assholes trot morningfog Jul 2016 #62
Good luck. romanic Jul 2016 #64
Not interested in a civil conversation with this people. They are irrational. morningfog Jul 2016 #96
You are free to keep thinking wrongly, & losing votes. appal_jack Jul 2016 #115
I don't need your permission. So long. morningfog Jul 2016 #142
Hope the fog clears for you some day. appal_jack Jul 2016 #152
I thought you were leaving? morningfog Jul 2016 #160
+1 MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #79
You don't coddle them. hack89 Jul 2016 #165
Way to win your argument, lol Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #214
I don't give a FUCK. Not trying to win an argument. Get o. It get the fuck out of the way. morningfog Jul 2016 #249
That attitude is why Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #253
No, it is the people who worship the gun and stroke it. morningfog Jul 2016 #277
And who is that, me? Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #279
You'll have to try on your own shoes. morningfog Jul 2016 #293
You directed that response to me Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #296
And tell us, who are those people? n/t oneshooter Jul 2016 #285
They are obvious. morningfog Jul 2016 #292
They are not, point some out Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #297
No I have decided not to. n/t oneshooter Jul 2016 #261
Is anybody here against their own free will? SheriffBob Jul 2016 #421
The definition debate has to preclude reform concerning assault rifles. Captain Stern Jul 2016 #63
We won't be giving them up. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #67
I'm thinking of picking up an SKS 7.62mm MohRokTah Jul 2016 #178
I'm right there too. beevul Jul 2016 #206
If you're interested.... aikoaiko Jul 2016 #209
Man, I was told no background checks for internet sales Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #255
License and insure, just like cars greymattermom Jul 2016 #68
And tax them annually, just like cars. Hoyt Jul 2016 #87
Whoops, posted in wrong place. My apologies. Hoyt Jul 2016 #102
I do not need a license and insurance to OWN Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #217
tax a civil liberty? virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #382
I agree. And "open carry" has to go away. Vinca Jul 2016 #74
That's interesting: I'm personally much more bothered by concealed carry Recursion Jul 2016 #76
I'm bothered by that, too. Personally, I'd like all guns gone. Vinca Jul 2016 #78
Me too, open carry Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #219
Nope Matrosov Jul 2016 #82
No. nt hack89 Jul 2016 #97
Honestly, we should ban all handguns. Let the fetishists keep their long guns, hand guns cause MillennialDem Jul 2016 #101
Police? mainstreetonce Jul 2016 #105
because the AWB was ineffective. Statistical Jul 2016 #200
In mass shootings mainstreetonce Jul 2016 #208
Orlando, Dallas, Sandy Hook, etc., prove semi-autos are plenty deadly, but gunners can convert Hoyt Jul 2016 #107
And how many people are killed by rifles annually? nt hack89 Jul 2016 #167
I'd like to hear about one instance of a mass shooting where a bump fire stock was in use. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #195
Once again, I have no issue restricting semi-auto pistols too. Just riding the wave of opposition Hoyt Jul 2016 #218
What you say makes me happy. hack89 Jul 2016 #220
LOL! virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #386
The first two videos ARE NOT automatic weapons. They are sem-automatic approved by the BATF. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #183
Didn't say they were fully automatic. It's a technique to simulate full auto. Hoyt Jul 2016 #215
That was the implication you made when you used the word 'convert'. beevul Jul 2016 #239
Look at what I said and stop pointing at each word. This is exactly what I said above bumpfirer: Hoyt Jul 2016 #240
I am. beevul Jul 2016 #243
The FBI Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #221
No thanks. n/t Kang Colby Jul 2016 #121
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #161
Why would they do that? Gun hoarders have serious issues that will never be addressed. Rex Jul 2016 #166
We have more guns than people in the US Motley13 Jul 2016 #174
IT takes a lot of money and a special license to buy an assault rifle, and only one manufactured... MohRokTah Jul 2016 #175
We are talking quasi-assault rifles and you know it. Everyone but gunners understand the target. Hoyt Jul 2016 #224
What the hell is a quasi-assalt rifle? Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #233
How else to converse with people who play the gun nomenclature game to avoid obvious. Hoyt Jul 2016 #238
As opposed to people who can't be bothered to know what they're talking about... beevul Jul 2016 #247
Good point Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #256
Words mean things MohRokTah Jul 2016 #254
Words mean things and there is a VERY specific definition of "Assault rifle" MohRokTah Jul 2016 #251
Instead of creating new words, why not just call it what it is. A semi-automatic rifle. Waldorf Jul 2016 #274
Correction: Assault Rifles are capable of full-auto fire. These rifles are already regulated. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #181
Not a fetishist, a realist. sofa king Jul 2016 #186
^^^^^ LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #204
Thank you. sofa king Jul 2016 #223
Exactly; I agree LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #265
I agree 100% SuperDutyTX Jul 2016 #245
Meh. Fuck tradition. Ass backwards hicks should not control the debate. morningfog Jul 2016 #248
But they will... sofa king Jul 2016 #257
Are you saying everybody who disagrees with you about firearm regulation is... MohRokTah Jul 2016 #259
Of course not, only the ignorant hicks. morningfog Jul 2016 #275
And neither should insult spewing morons. n/t oneshooter Jul 2016 #262
+1 (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #268
Who you calling a moron, shooter? morningfog Jul 2016 #276
those who bring nothing to the table oneshooter Jul 2016 #282
Much noise, and vitriol ... no action as usual DonP Jul 2016 #405
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #395
No, you do not get it. morningfog Jul 2016 #396
If I can give up lawn darts... maveric56 Jul 2016 #227
Lawn darts were not Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #235
As with the phony "assaut weapon" ban, lawn darts are not completely banned. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #340
the last two nationally prominent mass killers explicitly targeted whites Angel Martin Jul 2016 #228
You need to clean up your definitions. I think I will buy one... Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #229
FWIW, my husband is a hunter, bought a lifetime membership in the NRA many years ago, napi21 Jul 2016 #232
Semi-automatic firearms have been around since before the year 1900. beevul Jul 2016 #424
I AGREE WITH YOU. trueblue2007 Jul 2016 #237
I look forward to hearing your plan for collecting all of those weapons bluestateguy Jul 2016 #250
Legal Gun owners are just going to have to give up assault rifles.... ummmm Nope n/t DustyJoe Jul 2016 #263
I got no time for pro-massacre assholes. morningfog Jul 2016 #278
And I have no time for hoplophobes. n/t oneshooter Jul 2016 #286
So you genuinely believe.. SuperDutyTX Jul 2016 #287
Not all of them. morningfog Jul 2016 #294
Are most? Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #298
Who the fuck knows. Not playing. morningfog Jul 2016 #301
Is there anyone... SuperDutyTX Jul 2016 #304
LOL. Good luck to you. morningfog Jul 2016 #310
hah SuperDutyTX Jul 2016 #312
It is very typical Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #321
Yup. SuperDutyTX Jul 2016 #330
So when challenged on your comment Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #320
I don't think that being for gun rights makes me pro-massacre, but then I'm also for abortion rights LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #288
Stop calling them assault rifles - Use the proper name - Killing machines. GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #280
If you truly want to use the proper name, then it would be semi-automatic rifles. Waldorf Jul 2016 #290
And the nomenclature bullshit begins. Killing machines. GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #316
Nomenclature bullshit part 3. Killing machines. GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #318
How are you going to define "killing machines" TeddyR Jul 2016 #326
Sorry, no. in any discussion about these devices, the best way to frame it is "killing machines". GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #329
Not quite. SuperDutyTX Jul 2016 #335
The Killing Machine Ban - should go over big in Congress. nt jmg257 Jul 2016 #328
I will not give that bullshit argument respect. Fuck that/ morningfog Jul 2016 #295
Nomenclature bullshit part two. Killing machines. GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #317
Because that is not the proper name Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #300
Nomenclature bullshit part 4. Killing machines. GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #319
Good luck passing a law TeddyR Jul 2016 #325
I've been learning all my life and one of the things I have learned is that some people love GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #327
One of the many reasons Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #331
Yep TeddyR Jul 2016 #333
Something catchy and trademarkable, yet demeaning SwankyXomb Jul 2016 #342
Uh nope and besides, if they don't know you have them, how they going Purveyor Jul 2016 #283
We should be able to make deathrind Jul 2016 #289
Why do you leave Chicago out? Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #299
You'd have to ban all firearms TeddyR Jul 2016 #332
They will not listen, sadly Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #334
re: "We've had enough." discntnt_irny_srcsm Jul 2016 #309
I do not know how the poor officer behind him Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #323
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You demand that a current right be taken, then say "don't even start a debate, I don't give a damn." MadDAsHell Jul 2016 #352
I don't have a dog in this fight but I find these threads wildly entertaining. Anyone else? WillowTree Jul 2016 #353
I love them, one side knows their shit R.A. Ganoush Jul 2016 #378
A grown up society? Abq_Sarah Jul 2016 #360
The Gun Used by the Dallas Police Murderer is Revealed. It’s Not What Most People Thought. tirebiter Jul 2016 #361
I don't see an issue here...considering I own counter assault rifles. ileus Jul 2016 #380
a connection SheriffBob Jul 2016 #385
The Dallas shooter used an SKS. dilby Jul 2016 #388
To get this out there - the weapon used is now reported as an AK-74. jmg257 Jul 2016 #400
Sadly, someone like him could have used a bolt action to similar effect (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #411
What an incredibly arrogant OP. NaturalHigh Jul 2016 #406
Thanks! morningfog Jul 2016 #410
I's sorry SheriffBob Jul 2016 #413
Why? Because you say so? Wayburn Jul 2016 #408
Their is a word of warning, in the responses in this thread.. virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #414
Shhh! Keep it secret from the gun lovers until after we take the House, Senate and White House. morningfog Jul 2016 #415
the "gun lovers" as you put it.. virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #416
They are extreme, I'll give you that. morningfog Jul 2016 #417
Extreme? virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #418
Meh. You say personal property, I say instrument of death morningfog Jul 2016 #419
? virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #422
Wait and see mountainman. morningfog Jul 2016 #423
Paranoia?? virginia mountainman Jul 2016 #426
Oh, like you are talking free enterprise. Jim Beard Jul 2016 #427
Its funny how that works, isn't it? beevul Jul 2016 #425
But can we keep our counter assault rifles? ileus Jul 2016 #428
Absolutely not. morningfog Jul 2016 #429
Ah, come on SheriffBob Jul 2016 #430
Will your ever-shifting definition include 19-ton refer trucks? Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #431
Are truck drivers going to have to give up assault trucks? Albertoo Jul 2016 #432
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