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25. Actually Islam as practiced in some countries doesn't condemn sex with boys as much

Mon Jul 4, 2016, 07:54 PM

Jul 2016

as it does sex with girls and women, unless the female is a wife.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/apr/25/middle-east-child-abuse-pederasty

The hypocrisy of child abuse in many Muslim countries

By Shaista Gohir

I recently saw the documentary on the Dancing Boys of Afghanistan. It exposed an ancient custom called "bacha bazi" (boy for play), where rich men buy boys as young as 11 from impoverished families for sexual slavery. The boys are dressed in women's clothes and made to dance and sing at parties, before being carted away by the men for sex. Owning boys is considered a symbol of status and one former warlord boasted of having up to 3,000 boys over a 20-year period, even though he was married, with two sons. The involvement of the police and inaction of the government means this form of child prostitution is widespread.

The moral hypocrisy is outrageous in a country where homosexuality is not only strictly forbidden but savagely punished, even between two consenting adults. However, men who sodomise young boys are not considered homosexuals or paedophiles. The love of young boys is not a phenomenon restricted to Afghanistan; homosexual pederasty is common in neighbouring Pakistan, too. In my view, repression of sexuality and extreme gender apartheid is to blame.

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Austria: Rapist claims rape of boy was a 'medical emergency' because he hadn't had sex in 4 months. [View all] Just reading posts Jul 2016 OP

Horrid! Something better be done BEFORE they go to a country yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #1

I don't see how this situation can last. European countries are going to push back. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #5

And we need to do something about who we send to other countries. ciaobaby Jul 2016 #52

Not what we're talking about yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #55

Not so, there are plenty short sentences doled out for rape right here. ciaobaby Jul 2016 #57

This dude in the story is a disgrace and I won't stick up for him yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #67

I think that six years is shamefully short. yardwork Jul 2016 #59

Toxic masculinity manifests in every culture. Brickbat Jul 2016 #2

Keep telling yourself that over and over Separation Jul 2016 #7

Oh, religions intersect in all sorts of ways with toxic masculinity. Brickbat Jul 2016 #12

Are Christian rapists different somehow? ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #14

I guarantee one thing Separation Jul 2016 #20

You are so right- I've seen it too Lee-Lee Jul 2016 #21

Right. They use available boys as substitutes for the women they're not allowed pnwmom Jul 2016 #24

Again, so similar to the Catholic Church. ciaobaby Jul 2016 #49

No, it is NOT similar to the Catholic Church. Priests are not the whole of the Catholic Church. scarletwoman Jul 2016 #68

Here is some reading for you. ciaobaby Jul 2016 #70

Is rape also in the culture of the Catholic Church ? ciaobaby Jul 2016 #44

And yet you dont have any issue pointing that out Separation Jul 2016 #48

I point it out because some seem to have blinders on when it comes to Muslims. ciaobaby Jul 2016 #50

I have heard first hand reports of this activity in Saudi Arabia dhol82 Jul 2016 #69

So you must have your fingers firmly planted in your ears in regard to the ciaobaby Jul 2016 #58

Yes, nothing screams "masculine" more EL34x4 Jul 2016 #10

What's "masculine" about raping children? Just reading posts Jul 2016 #11

Young age, previous good behavior and "adverse living conditions"? smirkymonkey Jul 2016 #3

I was struck by that myself. The judge reduced the sentence by almost 2/3rds. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #4

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #13

I can't believe he is getting away with that excuse. smirkymonkey Jul 2016 #18

What a sicko IgelJames4 Jul 2016 #6

The judge could have sentenced him to 15 years in prison, but reduced it to only six years. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #8

no quarter DustyJoe Jul 2016 #9

But he's an "Iraqi migrant!" FixTheProblem Jul 2016 #15

Nothing to do with Islamophobia; Islam condemns such actions thoroughly LeftishBrit Jul 2016 #17

Actually Islam as practiced in some countries doesn't condemn sex with boys as much pnwmom Jul 2016 #25

You're right there. It infuriates me, this making of excuses for men PatrickforO Jul 2016 #31

Or the Imams could simply teach pnwmom Jul 2016 #33

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaagh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PatrickforO Jul 2016 #35

Some sects of Islam teach that it's forbidden to change your own oil, I'm afraid. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #36

Sure, like the Catholic Church teaches priests self control. ciaobaby Jul 2016 #42

The Catholic Church teaches that there are greater and lesser sins pnwmom Jul 2016 #46

The Catholic church is just as guilty, as you infer the Muslims are, in fostering a rape culture. ciaobaby Jul 2016 #51

Pope Francis has expressed remorse and has asked for forgiveness. pnwmom Jul 2016 #60

I do admire Pope Francis, however, looks like it is business as usual in the Church...... ciaobaby Jul 2016 #62

That certainly looks bad and I want to look into it. But the writer is a proven liar, pnwmom Jul 2016 #63

Fair enough - just "google" the name "Father Joseph Jeyapaul" ciaobaby Jul 2016 #64

I'm glad she is fighting this. I'm afraid that what might have happened pnwmom Jul 2016 #65

That's a cultural/ national-law issue, not a religious one LeftishBrit Jul 2016 #71

Agreed. n/t pnwmom Jul 2016 #72

Those who rape children tend to be treated rather harshly in prison. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Jul 2016 #27

Hey fundies - this is what an actual sex criminal looks like! Initech Jul 2016 #16

"to be taught how to integrate into his now community" Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #22

The judge should have given him the maximum sentence. He deserved it. n/t pnwmom Jul 2016 #23

But he had experienced "adverse living conditions" and had shown "good behavior"! Just reading posts Jul 2016 #26

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #28

You're not supposed to acknowledge the role of Islamic Fundamentalism and Culture Clash Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #29

It's part of MY approved narrative. PatrickforO Jul 2016 #32

This has nothing to do with immigrants. ciaobaby Jul 2016 #38

Acknowledged. My comment was on the guy's pathetic excuse, and the judge's PatrickforO Jul 2016 #43

Agreed. ciaobaby Jul 2016 #45

I'm not excusing it, not by a mile. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #61

Cultural imperialism! Just reading posts Jul 2016 #30

I know. We libs seem confused about how we feel sometimes. PatrickforO Jul 2016 #34

Same could be said of the priests in the Catholic Church. ciaobaby Jul 2016 #39

No argument here. PatrickforO Jul 2016 #40

This post and following comments is the most depressing I have seen on this site. ciaobaby Jul 2016 #37

Oh, please. Find me a post or story about a white Christian raping a little boy, excusing it Just reading posts Jul 2016 #41

Oh yes, but the outrage was at the judge and the criminal who committed the rape. ciaobaby Jul 2016 #47

Thank you. The Islamophobia in this thread is shocking. n/t femmedem Jul 2016 #53

Sigh of Relief. ciaobaby Jul 2016 #54

Not an exact match, but such stories are not hard to find... backscatter712 Jul 2016 #56

I condemn both the perpetrator and those involved in the coverup unequivocally. Just reading posts Jul 2016 #66

Question? get the red out Jul 2016 #73