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backscatter712

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79. I'd have to see the specifics of what happened.

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 05:48 PM

Jun 2012

If the father caught the guy in the act, and in the span of a few seconds, punched this guy in the head causing his death in the process of getting him off his girl, then that's legitimate self-defense (or a father protecting his daughter.)

If on the other hand, he dragged the guy off, and continuously kicked the shit out of him for twenty minutes after incapacitating him, then that would be murder.

My bet, based on the limited info I have, is that this is self-defense - it happened quickly, the dad caught this pedophile in the act, landed several hard punches on him while dragging him off, and one of those punches happened to be a lucky hit that killed the fucker. No charges, and the world's a better place.

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Father kills man sexually abusing his daughter, Father is remorseful (Internet celebrates) [View all] Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 OP

And...? Fawke Em Jun 2012 #1

It the creep hadn't been stopped when he was he would have gone on to abuse other babies madokie Jun 2012 #7

Agreed. Fawke Em Jun 2012 #15

You should read Stieg Larsson's novels longship Jun 2012 #65

Or fiction writers. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #72

Yes, true. longship Jun 2012 #75

I'm 5'3" and have broken the arm and cheekbone of a 6'1" male attacker REP Jun 2012 #95

Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #99

I'm 5'1" and 105 pounds and my husband calls me his... a la izquierda Jun 2012 #118

My karate master once taught me excellent advise: Ter Jun 2012 #153

My weaponless defense instructor taught us to "know your limitations" crunch60 Jun 2012 #158

Too bad the author did nothing to stop the gang rape he witnessed. redqueen Jun 2012 #156

I probably would have done the same thing aint_no_life_nowhere Jun 2012 #2

So many sexual abusers go free, this one didn't, so be it. crunch60 Jun 2012 #157

I say give the guy a medal SpartanDem Jun 2012 #3

Yep. Luciferous Jun 2012 #94

If this is all true Politicalboi Jun 2012 #4

HOUSE DETENTION FOR 5 YEARS? For saving your daughter? lies and propaganda Jun 2012 #39

Yep. nt MightyOkie Jun 2012 #88

Ditto. Falls under accidental homicide, temp insanity...he didn't intend Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #116

Exactly! crunch60 Jun 2012 #159

Actually, this falls under legal definitions of justifiable homicide. TheWraith Jun 2012 #50

I'd have to see the specifics of what happened. backscatter712 Jun 2012 #79

You wouldn't get a guilty vote from even if dad drug the fucker off and tortured him to death over TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #137

+100 n/t zappaman Jun 2012 #147

No jury would ever convict him... CoffeeCat Jun 2012 #110

I have two daughters ... would probably react similarly. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #5

If these facts are true then defense of his child in his house is perfectly legit aikoaiko Jun 2012 #6

When is the parade? Zanzoobar Jun 2012 #8

The thing that surprises me is that Arugula Latte Jun 2012 #9

Not surprising at all, he killed a person... rfranklin Jun 2012 #11

+1 Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #48

Exactly. Most people get a wrongful impression from media. TheWraith Jun 2012 #54

Definitely not true... Cave_Johnson Jun 2012 #67

There may be cases where you SHOULDN'T feel bad, NYC Liberal Jun 2012 #106

If your joyful at killing someone MattBaggins Jun 2012 #107

+1 Arkansas Granny Jun 2012 #130

Why is that surprising? SaB2012 Jun 2012 #33

Are you unaware that some people don't favour the death penalty? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2012 #36

I am against the death penalty in all cases. Arugula Latte Jun 2012 #78

I am also against the death penalty. Who decided who dies and when? crunch60 Jun 2012 #161

then you are young, grasshopper... elehhhhna Jun 2012 #77

I'm not so young. Arugula Latte Jun 2012 #80

I suspect that killing always feels justified, at the time elehhhhna Jun 2012 #82

So true SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #87

Welcome Home, Brother n/t hardtravelin Jun 2012 #136

Thank you SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #139

Same thing happened to my uncle, a WW2 veteran and a bronze star recipient. crunch60 Jun 2012 #162

most vets won't talk about their time "in country" shanti Jun 2012 #142

Let alone share the secrets of their ammo box-the scalps and ear necklaces. n/t bobthedrummer Jun 2012 #152

Shame on you! Sans__Culottes Jun 2012 #170

Welcome to DU, Sans_Culottes n/t bobthedrummer Jun 2012 #171

Thanks, bobthedrummer! Sans__Culottes Jun 2012 #173

It's not unusual for someone who kills in the heat of passion to be remorseful later slackmaster Jun 2012 #83

He didn't intend to kill the guy. He just beat him up, and the guy died. Hit his Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #117

I guess I can understand feeling regret if my actions led to someone's death 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #10

Bravo Dad! unreadierLizard Jun 2012 #12

This is my feel-good story of the day eissa Jun 2012 #13

... renate Jun 2012 #18

Thanks sweetie. I've come to terms with the abuse, but not with my parents eissa Jun 2012 #20

I am so sorry... CoffeeCat Jun 2012 #111

He should have shot him then he wouldn't have to face a trial...nt Kalidurga Jun 2012 #14

Is that a reference to Trayvon Martin and Zimmerman? SaB2012 Jun 2012 #30

No it isn't a reference to the Trayvon Martic case... Kalidurga Jun 2012 #105

If ANYONE deserves this fate,it is a child molester. wendylaroux Jun 2012 #16

A parent has the right, and DUTY, to protect the lives of their children HockeyMom Jun 2012 #17

True, however... SaB2012 Jun 2012 #28

Is there another kind of violence? Marr Jun 2012 #35

Lots of people get punched and kicked every day without dying SaB2012 Jun 2012 #47

They wear gloves now because it's much more dangerous otherwise. Marr Jun 2012 #56

It's still punching and people have still died SaB2012 Jun 2012 #64

And? Marr Jun 2012 #73

No, I'm saying that you can't call one "deadly violence" but not the other(s) SaB2012 Jun 2012 #90

Gloves are heavy, and it is likely that they cause more brain damage FarCenter Jun 2012 #74

I would think he flew into a rage deutsey Jun 2012 #46

That's true SaB2012 Jun 2012 #49

No weapon was used HockeyMom Jun 2012 #52

Fists *are* deadly weapons. TheWraith Jun 2012 #62

I see the word "can" SaB2012 Jun 2012 #68

80-90% of gunshot victims survive. No assault is lethal 100% of the time. TheWraith Jun 2012 #71

Yes, but SaB2012 Jun 2012 #91

Just after highschool, I worked as a cook at a Howard Johnson's and one of our waitresses... MiddleFingerMom Jun 2012 #19

+1 n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2012 #23

The last thing any rational person should want to do is to kill ... spin Jun 2012 #26

PTSD is caused by killing someone? Thanks. This is the first time that I've heard that. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #59

Anyone who has trouble killing the enemy shouldn't have enlisted FarCenter Jun 2012 #66

You're welcome. Believe it or not, killing someone is one of the most stressful events... MiddleFingerMom Jun 2012 #112

What a lengthy lecture. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #131

"The lady"???? EvolveOrConvolve Jun 2012 #164

+1 geardaddy Jun 2012 #145

Sometimes violence is the answer. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #21

Sometimes, yes SaB2012 Jun 2012 #27

Yes. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2012 #31

Interesting SaB2012 Jun 2012 #51

strangely belcffub Jun 2012 #34

Gosh SaB2012 Jun 2012 #53

You simply cannot... Whiskeytide Jun 2012 #38

You seem to be forgetting one thing, though SaB2012 Jun 2012 #55

There isn't a jury in this country Aerows Jun 2012 #174

Sorry to be so late getting back to you... Whiskeytide Jun 2012 #177

the young girl's life was very much in danger.. frylock Jun 2012 #45

Oh? SaB2012 Jun 2012 #58

somebody is spouting bs, and it ain't me n00b.. frylock Jun 2012 #85

Ah, yes, the "n00b" argument. Very solid that. SaB2012 Jun 2012 #92

Failed to back up that her life was threatened? Aerows Jun 2012 #175

You aren't defending the abusers actions SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #89

That's probably true SaB2012 Jun 2012 #93

Ask me SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #98

As a mother xmas74 Jun 2012 #109

There is more than one way to kill a person. Also, the dad didn't intend to kill the guy... Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #119

How do you know that the abuse pecwae Jun 2012 #114

Yes, more so it was his duty to protect his child that could not protect themselves TheKentuckian Jun 2012 #144

A victory for sexually abused children everywhere siligut Jun 2012 #22

Everyone hates a pedophile. MrSlayer Jun 2012 #24

Post removed Post removed Jun 2012 #37

Are you really defending pedophiles? unreadierLizard Jun 2012 #40

Of course it's a choice. Marr Jun 2012 #41

Take this bullshit elsewhere. nt piedmont Jun 2012 #42

I don't care what your attractions are. Rape is rape. Child abuse is child abuse. phleshdef Jun 2012 #43

While I don't condone killing the man for the abuse SaB2012 Jun 2012 #25

I can't say I wouldn't do the same thing myself Dorian Gray Jun 2012 #29

Me neither. Iggo Jun 2012 #86

Yeah Dorian Gray Jun 2012 #97

Give him a slap on the wrist. nt Comrade_McKenzie Jun 2012 #32

I'd say the father showed restraint OriginalGeek Jun 2012 #44

And who knows if the dead scum might have abducted Tsiyu Jun 2012 #70

I'd have done the same thing no question NotThisTime Jun 2012 #57

Shrug. closeupready Jun 2012 #60

Yup, there sure are people happy about it. jp11 Jun 2012 #61

Thank you for your moral sanctimony. TheWraith Jun 2012 #63

You are welcome. jp11 Jun 2012 #84

Is that a Clydesdale you're on? HotRodTuna Jun 2012 #168

In the minority, so what, there have been minority opinions that have jp11 Jun 2012 #169

You're right, it won't HotRodTuna Jun 2012 #176

I'm not happy the guy was killed per se 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #69

The wussy child molester assumed the risk, when he chose to harm a child. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #120

Has there been the first bit of corroboration to back up the story Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #124

There doesn't seem to be any question about it by the authorities so far. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #163

Just saw this here tawadi Jun 2012 #76

All I'll say is I hope the father was 100 percent right in processing what he saw... Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #81

This is true treestar Jun 2012 #138

As a guy with a 4 year old daughter, I won't judge him. Throd Jun 2012 #96

Celebrates or Empathizes?? I think many people with children can put themselves in his place and hav Pisces Jun 2012 #102

And why was she left alone in this freak's house? ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #100

I don't think it was the perv's house. A bunch of people were having a cookout... Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #121

I don't think killing or violence is a solution to most problems Bettie Jun 2012 #101

Memory of sexual abuse VS. memory of watching violent bludgeoning death? NoodleyAppendage Jun 2012 #103

Sexual abuse would be far more damaging than seeing your father pull a guy off of you... Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #122

Probably won't be charged, no DA could prosecute it. joshcryer Jun 2012 #104

If I was on the jury, I'd sure as hell acquit. n/t GarroHorus Jun 2012 #108

The father did what he had to do Meiko Jun 2012 #113

Just hope the first punch did not kill him SecurityManager Jun 2012 #115

Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2012 #123

He should be prosecuted, but the sentence should be very, very light. 2ndAmForComputers Jun 2012 #125

Prosecuted!? Spoonman Jun 2012 #126

I would do the same the father did, and expect to be prosecuted. 2ndAmForComputers Jun 2012 #127

LET'S GET THIS STORY STRAIGHT! Spoonman Jun 2012 #128

Precisely. Two victims are much more preferable to one. LanternWaste Jun 2012 #133

+1 AngryOldDem Jun 2012 #155

thank you... for calling it what it is. nt seabeyond Jun 2012 #165

Given the situation... 99Forever Jun 2012 #129

I wonder how many other children were saved from this pedophile rateyes Jun 2012 #132

Call me a gun nut, call me anything you like Bake Jun 2012 #134

Probably didn't need to kill him to stop him would TBF Jun 2012 #135

I agree with everything you said SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #141

I agree - I find it believable, though, that he didn't mean to kill the abuser. Lucy Goosey Jun 2012 #154

Things happen so fast when people assault each other. backscatter712 Jun 2012 #167

How about the castle law being applied... Wouldn't that give this father the right to protect his midnight Jun 2012 #140

Thats a very very good point SGMRTDARMY Jun 2012 #143

In Texas the law allows the use of deadly force oneshooter Jun 2012 #172

If I were in the dad's place I would have done the same thing. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #146

Now THIS is what I call justifiable homocide Taverner Jun 2012 #148

+1 nt TBF Jun 2012 #149

That is exactly what it is called. lonestarnot Jun 2012 #180

I love a happy ending Chuuku Davis Jun 2012 #150

more details Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 #151

I'm sorry, but anyone does that to my daughter, I would do the same demtenjeep Jun 2012 #160

kick tawadi Jun 2012 #166

surprised to see this thread appear again. Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 #178

Same here tawadi Jun 2012 #179