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Thu Jun 30, 2016, 02:49 PM

144. That's the figures for everyone; Leave were 31% economy more important, 57% disagreeing

http://www.opinion.co.uk/perch/resources/orbindependent-friday-10th-june-final-data-tables.pdf

p.19.

When considering how to vote, the economy is a bigger issue than immigration
Remain:
Agree 76%
Disagree 14%
Don't know 11%

Leave:
Agree 31%
Disagree 57%
Don't know 11%

The questions about the economy weren't about capitalism, equality or neoliberalism; they were about whether the economy would be better ("The belief that when it comes to trade and the economy, the UK would benefit more from being outside the EU than from being part of it". And practically no Leave voters saw that as an important reason to vote Leave (in that q27, p256, only 6% gave that as their first reason for voting Leave).

That ORB poll is typical for polls before the election in saying that immigration was the most important reason for leaving - I thought that was generally known, and you were saying that something changed at the last minute in reasoning. Here's another pre-election poll (that gave as an overall result 40% Leave, 39% Remain, 14% Undecided, so was reasonably accurate: https://www.ipsos-mori.com/Assets/Docs/Polls/pm-16-june-2016-tables.pdf

q14 p36; in a large list of important issues deciding their vote, Leavers gave:
52%: The number of immigrants coming into Britain
22%: Britain's ability to make its own laws
18%: The impact on Britain's economy
14%: Impact on public services/housing
10%: The cost of EU immigration on Britain's welfare system
7%: Cost of EU membership fees
5%: The impact on British jobs
Others under 5%.

This wasn't a wild guess on what was influencing the Leave vote that we made after Ashcroft's poll. We'd been saying it was immigration for weeks before.

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