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Albertoo

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32. The Brexiteers (Right and Left) have been lying through their bare teeth (or were stupid)

Wed Jun 29, 2016, 06:36 AM

Jun 2016

Farage and Boris Johnson too have now openly flip-flopped.

The very definition of demagoguery. The whole thing is a ghastly mess.

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Green Party's Jill Stein completely flip-flops on Brexit--first supported, now opposes [View all] NuclearDem Jun 2016 OP

there's a real cleavage on the left--the economic nationalists on the left (Corbyn, Sanders etc) geek tragedy Jun 2016 #1

The EU needs to be reformed from within. Ghost Dog Jun 2016 #4

+1! The Left let UK voters down BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #19

There may have been some cleavage on the left but Corbyn and Sanders opposed Brexit. pampango Jun 2016 #21

Sanders is mildly pro-Brexit in his NY Times op-ed, Corbyn sabotaged Labor's geek tragedy Jun 2016 #24

"Bernie Sanders Says He Hopes Britain Votes To Remain In The European Union" pampango Jun 2016 #31

Sanders's comments on the Brexit from his NYT piece: geek tragedy Jun 2016 #36

It seems that Sanders was explaining the success of the Leave vote while supporting the Remain side. pampango Jun 2016 #38

that seems to be tone-policing rather than substantive disagreement. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #39

Corbyn being a 7/10 for Remain is better than being a 7/10 for Leave. pampango Jun 2016 #40

I guess in Sanders's case I'm left not knowing why he opposes the Brexit. nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #41

Yeah. It could be a worry that this is just not the right time given the right wing's forceful push pampango Jun 2016 #42

I think it was more like "Brexit seems to be opposed by all of the mainstream, non-racist geek tragedy Jun 2016 #43

That would seem consistent with the "not now because the right is the driving force at the moment" pampango Jun 2016 #44

Thanks for your posts, Geek Tragedy. Hortensis Jun 2016 #33

She has a lot of questionable positions... tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #2

You have to be stupid not to know everything is archived these days. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #3

At least she finally saw the light. LeftishBrit Jun 2016 #5

Vaccine stances on the Internet don't go away, either. nt msanthrope Jun 2016 #6

I've been interested in a lot of Jill's positions for a while - longer than this election season but seaglass Jun 2016 #7

Dr. Jill "It would be better if Romney won" Stein? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #8

*Eyeroll* Daemonaquila Jun 2016 #9

It's a problem because she dishonestly scrubbed the original statement NuclearDem Jun 2016 #15

Thanks for posting, Nuclear. It's not which position Hortensis Jun 2016 #35

She changed her mind in the last three days? Since Saturday? DanTex Jun 2016 #17

Reflexive outrage is why I won't vote Green Bad Thoughts Jun 2016 #10

She "changed her mind" on open vs closed primaries too oberliner Jun 2016 #11

She has no clue what she's doing... woolldog Jun 2016 #12

The Green Party will be lucky to pull 0.25% in the generals. madinmaryland Jun 2016 #13

I think you're way off on both the Greens and the Libertarians. Jim Lane Jun 2016 #27

I've found Jill Stein generally to be pretty clueless. DanTex Jun 2016 #14

Stein is a bigger moron than Trump MohRokTah Jun 2016 #16

Hmmm. sangfroid Jun 2016 #18

What does she actually know about anything? Renew Deal Jun 2016 #20

Ooof alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #22

She needs to take a seat. nt TNProfessor Jun 2016 #23

I can't imagine wasting my vote in her Beaverhausen Jun 2016 #25

I don't think she could find her way from Lexington, where she lives, to Concord. MADem Jun 2016 #30

If people wonder why there's no nationally viable third parties in the US... herding cats Jun 2016 #26

She's a perfect balanced sample. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #28

Someone clued her into the whole xenophobia thing. MADem Jun 2016 #29

The Brexiteers (Right and Left) have been lying through their bare teeth (or were stupid) Albertoo Jun 2016 #32

This might cost her 10% of her votes in November Orrex Jun 2016 #34

So the exact opposite flip flop from The Donald's. But it doesn't matter. It's only the Green Party. Bucky Jun 2016 #37