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Showing Original Post only (View all)Greenwald calls-out the dominant Brexit narrative [View all]
https://theintercept.com/2016/06/25/brexit-is-only-the-latest-proof-of-the-insularity-and-failure-of-western-establishment-institutions/Brexit is Only the Latest Proof of the Insularity and Failure of Western Establishment Institutions
THE DECISION BY UK VOTERS to leave the EU is such a glaring repudiation of the wisdom and relevance of elite political and media institutions that for once their failures have become a prominent part of the storyline. Media reaction to the Brexit vote falls into two general categories: (1) earnest, candid attempts to understand what motivated voters to make this choice, even if that means indicting ones own establishment circles, and (2) petulant, self-serving, simple-minded attacks on disobedient pro-leave voters for being primitive, xenophobic bigots (and stupid to boot), all to evade any reckoning with their own responsibility. Virtually every reaction that falls into the former category emphasizes the profound failures of western establishment factions; these institutions have spawned pervasive misery and inequality, only to spew condescending scorn at their victims when they object.
The Los Angeles Times Vincent Bevins, in an outstanding and concise analysis, wrote that both Brexit and Trumpism are the very, very wrong answers to legitimate questions that urban elites have refused to ask for thirty years; in particular, since the 1980s the elites in rich countries have overplayed their hand, taking all the gains for themselves and just covering their ears when anyone else talks, and now they are watching in horror as voters revolt. The British journalist Tom Ewing, in a comprehensive Brexit explanation, said the same dynamic driving the UK vote prevails in Europe and North America as well: the arrogance of neoliberal elites in constructing a politics designed to sideline and work around democracy while leaving democracy formally intact.
In an interview with The New Statesman, the political philosopher Michael Sandel also said that the dynamics driving the pro-Brexit sentiment were now dominant throughout the west generally: a large constituency of working-class voters feel that not only has the economy left them behind, but so has the culture, that the sources of their dignity, the dignity of labour, have been eroded and mocked by developments with globalisation, the rise of finance, the attention that is lavished by parties across the political spectrum on economic and financial elites, the technocratic emphasis of the established political parties. After the market-venerating radicalism of Reagan and Thatcher, he said, the centre left Blair and Clinton and various European parties managed to regain political office but failed to reimagine the mission and purpose of social democracy, which became empty and obsolete.
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Corrupt elites always try to persuade people to continue to submit to their dominance in exchange for protection from forces that are even worse. Thats their game. But at some point, they themselves, and their prevailing order, become so destructive, so deceitful, so toxic, that their victims are willing to gamble that the alternatives will not be worse, or at least, they decide to embrace the satisfaction of spitting in the faces of those who have displayed nothing but contempt and condescension for them.
(boldface emphases added by me)
As I write this, two of the top five "Greatest Threads" here at DU are precisely the dominant Brexit narrative that Greenwald eviscerates above (with plenty more detail and evidence at the link). I think that DU can and should bring a more critical eye to the Brexit issue, and take the lessons of it to heart before the USA's politics goes similarly off the rails.
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Do you have a specific objection to the article, and, if so, can you elaborate on your analysis? nt
xocet
Jun 2016
#27
And I bet you believe tea party didn't form the second we elected a black president.
Drunken Irishman
Jun 2016
#232
So you believe the tea party wouldn't have formed if Hillary had won in 2008?
TheFarseer
Jun 2016
#234
Not when he has hordes that will eat up every embarassingly wrong utterance he makes with a spoon
Number23
Jun 2016
#183
Really? Lot of smart people on the leftwere arguing for Brexit before it happened
rpannier
Jun 2016
#185
"But not now with Boris Johnson around to steer the ship" in the wake of Brexit. Mr. "Neoliberal
pampango
Jun 2016
#196
It's worth asking why people embraced such hatefulness and believed such lies.
appal_jack
Jun 2016
#30
No, but I think that enough of the "Leave" vote came from xenophobes to represent the winning margin
Spider Jerusalem
Jun 2016
#46
Using your reasoning it could very well be that the majority of Brexit voters were not xenophobic...
Human101948
Jun 2016
#53
Actually having a firsthand acquaintance with the "Leave" campaign...
Spider Jerusalem
Jun 2016
#145
"Just tired of being screwed by the one percenters." EU countries have some of the highest pay,
pampango
Jun 2016
#77
Xenophobia and anti-immigrant sentiment is highest in areas with the lowest levels of immigration
Spider Jerusalem
Jun 2016
#63
Fabians is a good source. But those statistics are not really relevant to your argument.
KPN
Jun 2016
#211
Exactly. The Left, Jeremy Corbyn, British unions (not to mention Bernie) supported Remain.
pampango
Jun 2016
#75
Using that ridicule emoticon is sad on a politically liberal message board. Don't you agree? nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#116
So if the Admins set a gun on the table and you picked it up and shot someone, you want to
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#119
I want to use this opportunity to use this as an example of the split in our Party.
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#118
There is just as much a split in the Republican party over this as ours
ConservativeDemocrat
Jun 2016
#148
Here we are again with you calling the Progressive Wing extremists. And here again I will
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#170
And again I ask where you disagree with the left and again you won't respond.
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#237
Great read. And the responses in this thread are perfect examples of what he is talking about.
fbc
Jun 2016
#11
Nope, both Greenwald and those who agree with him are perfect examples of forcing a narrative
stevenleser
Jun 2016
#105
The effects of immigration is a valid concern and is not xenophobia/nativism.
JonLeibowitz
Jun 2016
#32
There is a link, there are words there, surely you know how to click (n/t)
Spider Jerusalem
Jun 2016
#41
Trump is counting on it. Xenophobia and nativists are, by definition, anti-immigration.
pampango
Jun 2016
#74
But not all concerns about immigration are by nativists. This is a logical fallacy
JonLeibowitz
Jun 2016
#83
Of course not. But they can provide the winning margin. This is clearly a victory for the right,
pampango
Jun 2016
#89
Gee, what a surprise, his analysis of the meaning dovetails with what he WANTS it to mean.
stevenleser
Jun 2016
#17
Yes, it is, and obvious if you observe Greenwald for any length of time. nt
stevenleser
Jun 2016
#60
Most of the posters here who are actually in the UK will tell you it was xenophobia
Spider Jerusalem
Jun 2016
#23
Given GG's problematic immigration stances, it's hardly surprising he wants to deny xenophobia....
msanthrope
Jun 2016
#39
This stuff is why as a Socialist I am suspicious of people calling themselves "left-wing populists".
Odin2005
Jun 2016
#56
His Neo-Nazi civil client is a real peach, too. Although everyone deserves a criminal defense, I
msanthrope
Jun 2016
#57
+1, as if he couldn't just look shit up on the thing he was using to blog with
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#159
When he blamed it all on "Obama cultists", the sincerity of his "apology"
TwilightZone
Jun 2016
#157
+1, also he had the means to look at both sides of the story vs just taking RW word for it...
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#160
unfortunately, that's untrue. they're an extension of Thatcherism. but carryon.
nashville_brook
Jun 2016
#136
for those who disagree with Greenwald, what about elites screwing the rest? Is that wrong?
yurbud
Jun 2016
#55
It's mind-boggling that we're being accused of "smearing" people by calling them xenophobes when
Chakab
Jun 2016
#106
Pro-Brexit elites used that line to get workers to vote against their own interests.
SunSeeker
Jun 2016
#87
Why did some elite want it? I don't have a definite opinion on this, I'd like to hear
yurbud
Jun 2016
#98
those who reflexively dismiss Greenwald do more harm to their reputation here than his
yurbud
Jun 2016
#128
The UK did not have 'free trade' (though it likely will under Boris Johnson's 'neoliberal fantasy
pampango
Jun 2016
#99
Young adults in England and Europe know what austerity is doing to their countries, their
Akamai
Jun 2016
#104
You have stats that show kids up to 30 have no complaints about austerity? I think that would
Akamai
Jun 2016
#179
Young adults overwhelmingly voted to stay in the EU, so that's wrong too. nt
stevenleser
Jun 2016
#151
Seems to me that you are saying pretty much every youngster in the UK voted to stay in the EU. Maybe
Akamai
Jun 2016
#181
Only 21% of ages 26 and younger voted to leave, so as I said, overwhelmingly voted to stay. nt
stevenleser
Jun 2016
#195
well, the neolibs support their masters and hate GG for many of his critiques directed at them
stupidicus
Jun 2016
#102
It's also used as a tool by the conservatives/ neo-liberals to control the public.
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#124
It's very strange that some people that want social justice will sell their souls to
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#127
Yes but the Powers That Be love to use social justice issues as a divisive tool which they
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#171
Mr. libertarian, claiming that xenophobia had nothing to do with the Brexit. Funny that the voting
still_one
Jun 2016
#129
+1, also the data clear says the majority voted on brexit cause of immigration here
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#161
Xenophobia is a tool used by the neo-liberals to stir up hatred and draw attention away
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#172
xenophobia is a product of the conservatives, and the history of Europe has been filled with it
still_one
Jun 2016
#174
It's a tool used by conervative/neo-liberals to stir up hatred similar to what Hitler did in Germany
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#175
The American Conservative also endorsed Sanders, in fairness. They're an odd bunch.
Recursion
Jun 2016
#191
Yes! Due to lack of alternatives, everything clearly OUTSIDE establishment does Better Than Expected
Land Shark
Jun 2016
#158
But Brexit was conceived, led and voted for by Thatcher's heirs and their supporters.
TubbersUK
Jun 2016
#226
Reagan/Thatcherism were half baked, but their followers very rarely were racists
Albertoo
Jun 2016
#229