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49. Mandating government surveillance of private property touches on a few other bits...

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Jun 2016

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We need more surveillance when it comes to guns [View all] RobertEarl Jun 2016 OP

This is satire, right? linuxman Jun 2016 #1

Yes, I do believe your post is RobertEarl Jun 2016 #2

Have fun with your bushco. police state fantasies. linuxman Jun 2016 #4

I would like to think so . . . MousePlayingDaffodil Jun 2016 #3

I get it, you don't like gun owners. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #5

You need a dictionary RobertEarl Jun 2016 #7

Look up the Heller/McDonald SCOTUS decisions. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #10

You are in favor of mentally ill getting guns? RobertEarl Jun 2016 #12

Yes. The mentally ill are more likely to be victims rather than perpetrators of violence. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #14

Was Orlando shooter mentally ill? RobertEarl Jun 2016 #20

I have no idea. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #22

Sure, he was mentally competent RobertEarl Jun 2016 #24

San Bernadino shooters lancer78 Jun 2016 #92

You would really fit in better someplace like North Korea... pipoman Jun 2016 #29

Bwahahaha RobertEarl Jun 2016 #36

Heller is one of the worst SCOTUS decisions of the past 20 years Orrex Jun 2016 #56

That's your opinion. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #57

That is indeed my opinion, and your opinion is Scalia's opinion. Orrex Jun 2016 #61

No, that's not really an accurate statement. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #63

No, I'm not going to play that game. Orrex Jun 2016 #65

I'm not playing a game. Very rude of you to call gun rights supporters "gun enablers." Kang Colby Jun 2016 #68

I started using that term in response to the term "gun grabbers" Orrex Jun 2016 #72

What is the purpose of a publicly accessible database of firearms owners? Marengo Jun 2016 #75

To goad, intimidate, and harass law abiding gun owners. n/t Kang Colby Jun 2016 #79

That's my impression as well, I can't imagine it serves any positive purpose. Marengo Jun 2016 #80

Well, we largely agree. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #78

Well... Orrex Jun 2016 #84

Touché. See post 14. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #86

Interesting. Orrex Jun 2016 #88

About the insurance angle lancer78 Jun 2016 #93

"Also, a conviction for domestic violence should prohibit future firearm ownership by the abuser. " beevul Jun 2016 #85

Heller specifically states that the 2A permits strict regulations of guns hack89 Jun 2016 #71

Mandating government surveillance of private property touches on a few other bits... TipTok Jun 2016 #49

The bill of rights is a 'the government shall not' document, not a 'the people can' document. X_Digger Jun 2016 #6

If it doesn't grant us any rights... scscholar Jun 2016 #8

It protects rights. It doesn't grant them. LOL n/t Kang Colby Jun 2016 #11

Take a 10th grade civics class. X_Digger Jun 2016 #18

See post above RobertEarl Jun 2016 #9

Are you ok with the FBI sarisataka Jun 2016 #13

I can't mass murder with my computer RobertEarl Jun 2016 #16

Terrorists use computers sarisataka Jun 2016 #19

In order to do this, we'd have to quadruple our police force. yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #44

Then you shouldn't have any objection to letting them have a look. Marengo Jun 2016 #74

If the only requirement to make a law was 'provide for the general welfare', we'd be screwed. X_Digger Jun 2016 #21

Lessons from you are not any good RobertEarl Jun 2016 #26

Ahh.. the greater good argument... TipTok Jun 2016 #50

Apparently, that poster is unfamiliar with the term 'Lovejoying': friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #90

Ah, yes- the "saving innocents" claim. It's an old and time honored political technique: friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #91

Here are the coordinates for the shooting range I go to... cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #15

Good idea RobertEarl Jun 2016 #17

Good luck. And oh... its surrounded by slightly less than a billion square miles of desert. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #23

Satellites! RobertEarl Jun 2016 #27

I don't know a single person who shoots any gun "willy nilly". cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #32

Hell, I used to RobertEarl Jun 2016 #35

What would these satellites be tracking? Marengo Jun 2016 #73

What kind of behavior surveilled on those roads would trigger an investigation? Marengo Jun 2016 #76

Really? pipoman Jun 2016 #25

That's true RobertEarl Jun 2016 #28

It's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard. pipoman Jun 2016 #31

Heh RobertEarl Jun 2016 #33

Controllers always assume that this stuff will only apply to the folks they are afraid of... TipTok Jun 2016 #52

The "right of the people" doesn't mean individuals? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #30

The 2nd says nothing about an Individual's rights? Abq_Sarah Jun 2016 #34

You'll never convince a grabber. They think our rights are derived from the courts Press Virginia Jun 2016 #38

So everybody gets a gun? RobertEarl Jun 2016 #41

"Your denial of any lines is a foolish denial." It *would* be, if such a denial had been made. friendly_iconoclast Jun 2016 #89

The gunners will throw Constitution BS at you, to point of sounding like right wingers. Hoyt Jun 2016 #37

Yeah, that pesky constitution bs. If it weren't for that meddling document Press Virginia Jun 2016 #39

Except gunners can't read and total ignore key phrases to protect their gunz. Hoyt Jun 2016 #40

It is crazy RobertEarl Jun 2016 #42

without due process? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #45

I'm sure you believe that...commas can easily confuse some people Press Virginia Jun 2016 #43

Gunners are a good example. They'll whine about clip vs. magazine, but can't comprehend Hoyt Jun 2016 #46

Yeah, why should anyone be expected to know what they're talking about Press Virginia Jun 2016 #47

In the most simplistic form they are manufactured to let yahoos shoot people. Whether it's a clip Hoyt Jun 2016 #67

How many people did you shoot with your guns? Press Virginia Jun 2016 #69

Some folks who claim sarisataka Jun 2016 #48

I grew up when the Constitution was used to discriminate. Now it's used to enable bigots, Hoyt Jun 2016 #66

Alexander Hamilton and John Adams beat their slaves? Wow, who knew. Marengo Jun 2016 #77

That is refreshing honesty sarisataka Jun 2016 #81

It has been -- discrimination, states rights, gunz, etc. Hoyt Jun 2016 #87

Were we "right wingers" when we were throwing the Constitution at Bush, too? Odin2005 Jun 2016 #60

The 4th amendment says "right of the people" too. Is that also a collective right in your view? NutmegYankee Jun 2016 #51

KISS Cryptoad Jun 2016 #53

I have a better idea. The government should... meaculpa2011 Jun 2016 #54

The cameras would get pretty board...You need those camera in private residences. ileus Jun 2016 #55

Where is this idea coming from? aikoaiko Jun 2016 #58

I tend to think that rock Jun 2016 #59

Many ranges sarisataka Jun 2016 #82

I'm OK with exempting private clubs rock Jun 2016 #83

LOL WUT? Odin2005 Jun 2016 #62

What would that accomplish? How would it save any lives? Captain Stern Jun 2016 #64

What is this supposed to be - some kind of new idea? The US has been spying on America jmg257 Jun 2016 #70