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In reply to the discussion: If Senate Democrats had accepted due process, we would have gun control [View all]lancer78
(1,495 posts)50. So what is acceptable?
A 6 month time frame? Any mass shooter bent on destruction or any terrorist will wait that six months.
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If Senate Democrats had accepted due process, we would have gun control [View all]
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2016
OP
An amendment to include a due process requirement for 'no fly, no buy' lists...
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2016
#2
And now DoJ won't have any say whatsoever, beyond the already existing regulations
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2016
#6
For one thing, they wouldn't have looked like a bunch of hypocritical sheep...
friendly_iconoclast
Jun 2016
#8
Thank you. I agree. The Republican bill was actually counterproductive and just an
skylucy
Jun 2016
#10
So, the proposal was less effective than the old controller "24-hour cooling off period?"
Eleanors38
Jun 2016
#36
If someone is on the no fly, no buy list, the file should be readily available
aikoaiko
Jun 2016
#12
No time, 3 days is like 3 minutes for the feds to gather docs and present it to a judge the
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#18
"This would all be computerized like the current federal background check for buying firearms is."
Chan790
Jun 2016
#45
72 hours starts the second the person on the NF list attempts to purchase a firearm....
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#20
Ah, ok... well... shit, I hate it when they make footballs out of these issues
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#29
Is 72 hours enough time to show probable cause should not have gun? I don't think so.
Justice
Jun 2016
#47
Too many people read Kafka's The Trial and thought, wow, what a great legal system!
NutmegYankee
Jun 2016
#14
The burden is NOT like a bench warrant, more to prove than a LEOs word on the case
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#21
Probable cause - not any evidence at all. Would they have met the burden with the Orlando shooter?
Justice
Jun 2016
#48
The idea that they have proof on file is demonstrably wrong. The bill was a fig leaf.
Agnosticsherbet
Jun 2016
#26
I advocate that the 3 day limit means checks will never happen. This isn't about due process.
Agnosticsherbet
Jun 2016
#32
Three days is not enough. That is the point. it requires funding and this bill has none.
Agnosticsherbet
Jun 2016
#65
The FBI needs 25 days on average to determine if a gun purchaser is illegal
Agnosticsherbet
Jun 2016
#71
Of course due process - but not a fig leaf that is meaningless. Which 72 hrs to show probable cause
Justice
Jun 2016
#49
If Senate Dems accepted due process, it still would have been voted down.
JustABozoOnThisBus
Jun 2016
#39
Senator Manchin said this very thing would happen. Alluded to it as a set up by the GOP.
tonyt53
Jun 2016
#51
it simply AMAZES me how these repub enablers continue to deny that the obvious
Gabi Hayes
Jun 2016
#68
The FBI needs 25 days on average to determine if a gun purchaser is illegal
Agnosticsherbet
Jun 2016
#67