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vankuria

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108. Grandfather was on Today Show

Sun Jun 10, 2012, 09:06 AM

Jun 2012

The Mom's father, to my amazement was defending the abuser! He kept saying over and over how much he loved the boy but he mouths off and has behavioral issues as if this justifies such abuse. The lawyer for the step-dad was there as well and the whole interview sickened me, as if this boy deserved such abuse. The Grandfather further stated the mom and child are now out of state on a "planned vacation", which I think is a big fat lie. I wonder if the mom is a victim as well and the Grandfather is defending him because he feels intimidated or fears retaliation. Kudos to the neighbor who got involved, tried to stop it, videotaped and posted the abuse on you-tube to expose this jackass bully.

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kid won't play ball "right" with dad, so dad beats him with a belt (video) [View all] cali Jun 2012 OP

Someone should beat his ass Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #1

+1 and the mother for letting stepfather brutalize her kid Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 #68

Speaking as somebody who was beat with a two by four by his parents... boppers Jun 2012 #74

There is a difference between a natural impulse to punish a wrong do-er TalkingDog Jun 2012 #102

Someone should beat his ass with a two by four. Life Long Dem Jun 2012 #127

That will teach the kid... liberal N proud Jun 2012 #2

He's the boy's stepfather lunatica Jun 2012 #9

You are right about the bully part and likely correct about the mother too. liberal N proud Jun 2012 #15

She's taken the kids to Alabama Rose Siding Jun 2012 #40

"He's the boy's stepfather" KansDem Jun 2012 #93

Good Lord bluestateguy Jun 2012 #3

And good for the neighbor for opening the window and telling him to stop. CurtEastPoint Jun 2012 #4

One of my psych profs answered the question put to him by a mother. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2012 #5

I don't get it... Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #6

Hopefully Politicalboi Jun 2012 #10

Most people don't want him to lose his job. Lots of us DO want to create discussion that WILL patrice Jun 2012 #13

Losing a job is a bad thing Politicalboi Jun 2012 #16

Well spoken. I understand, but I have a bias toward trying to get people to grow into something patrice Jun 2012 #18

I'm sure if he lost his job the boy would pay for it. The guy is dumb, in need of parenting classes, Pisces Jun 2012 #31

Felony child abuse gets 6 years in CA Rose Siding Jun 2012 #41

I was spanked with a belt, not like that boy, but I sure would not want my father or mother put away Pisces Jun 2012 #63

Assault is not "dumb." Tsiyu Jun 2012 #43

The "dollar" or a families livelihood?? Like food and shelter??? I certainly am not advocating for Pisces Jun 2012 #62

We destroy people's livelihoods every day for less. Tsiyu Jun 2012 #67

"We destroy people's livelihoods every day for less." = dumb reasoning. HiPointDem Jun 2012 #88

Not rationale, just the frickin' truth Tsiyu Jun 2012 #91

Watching a kid get beaten shows the facts in the case lunatica Jun 2012 #12

Yep. MightyOkie Jun 2012 #29

i guess i was thinking more about Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #34

This might make him think twice in hitting the boy again. vaberella Jun 2012 #76

I don't think he'll stop being a bully lunatica Jun 2012 #99

Depending on the community, things like this can get swept under the rug Lars39 Jun 2012 #14

Anthony deserved for the whole world to see his abusive cowardliness. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2012 #25

+1 HiPointDem Jun 2012 #89

Yeah, keep it hush hush, turn the other cheek...blah blah blah blah snooper2 Jun 2012 #112

I was thinking the same thing. PotatoChip Jun 2012 #146

Glad that POS Politicalboi Jun 2012 #7

There are some people who have NO!!!. FUCKING. BUSINESS. BEING. PARENTS. patrice Jun 2012 #8

Why don't ya come over here and pick on somebody my size? Marr Jun 2012 #11

That made me cry. wildeyed Jun 2012 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jun 2012 #19

At around 44 seconds in the video you can hear the child scream, "Don't hit me!!" thelordofhell Jun 2012 #20

The neighbor did right by getting the beating to stop by yelling at the dad. But he shouldnt rhett o rick Jun 2012 #21

Wise point in my opinion. However, I have a feeling the challanger wasn't thinking ZombieHorde Jun 2012 #52

I agree. I probably would have done the same. Also, it is hard to know when rhett o rick Jun 2012 #107

I was glad that he said those things... CoffeeCat Jun 2012 #130

I understand. I just dont want the boy to think that violence is required. rhett o rick Jun 2012 #132

Thats just sick, I got beaten for bad Ping Pong learning. WingDinger Jun 2012 #22

Using threats of violence to stop violence is not a good thing. MrTwister Jun 2012 #23

I'm going to guess that watching that happen in real time might JoePhilly Jun 2012 #26

Yes, exactly right. JNelson6563 Jun 2012 #111

Makes total sense to me. JoePhilly Jun 2012 #140

Yeah. That always works. alphafemale Jun 2012 #30

??????????? Pisces Jun 2012 #32

Kinda judgmental. nt MrTwister Jun 2012 #33

It it works, and no else was injured, it was right. If there's one thing to get Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #98

What an effin' loser. Anthony should never be allowed around children for the rest of his life. Dont call me Shirley Jun 2012 #24

Good for Oscar! graywarrior Jun 2012 #27

You gotta love cameras... They're everywhere MrScorpio Jun 2012 #28

that p.o.s. "dad" should lose custody of his son forever rollin74 Jun 2012 #35

Man needs psychiatrict help ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #36

Yes Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #39

The man is a t-ball and soccer coach according to CNN Rose Siding Jun 2012 #37

T-Ball. So good for the self esteem ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #42

I'm not sure the T Ball is the problem Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #60

Ugh. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #38

Aside from matching ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #44

Its real easy to armchair quarterback Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #45

"armchair quarterback" ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #46

Then by all means, elaborate Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #47

Sometimes it is enough ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #48

Yes, people often cut the crap when they know others are on to them. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #49

and some are stuck in that mode ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #51

Obviously Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #54

and how ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #57

"We are here to awaken from our illusion of separateness", right? Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #58

I can see how watching that could make someone really, really angry cali Jun 2012 #50

then please ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #53

No thanks, honey. I'm just not that interested in what you have to say. cali Jun 2012 #55

maybe ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #56

I think the judgment is coming from you. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #59

you assume ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #61

He DID put a stop to it. EOTE Jun 2012 #64

BS ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #65

You're full of it. EOTE Jun 2012 #79

You're trying to escalate ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #114

I know enough to realize that defending the dad in this situation... EOTE Jun 2012 #124

what ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #126

No words were put in your mouth. EOTE Jun 2012 #131

You're right ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #133

Precisely, the wife seemed really angry as well. joshcryer Jun 2012 #73

Exactly ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #116

He could've just as easily taken it inside. joshcryer Jun 2012 #72

Doesn't resolve anything? boppers Jun 2012 #77

"It's good the neighbor spoke up. Threatening more violence and escalation doesn't really help reso" ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #110

It's good the neighbor spoke up. ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #119

There's nothing "macho" about protecting a child with a stern voice. joshcryer Jun 2012 #71

"matching the macho challenge to fight" ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #109

i don't understand these type of parents, same goes for the Beauty pageant and other similar types JI7 Jun 2012 #66

You're trying to understand the bully as if he was normal lunatica Jun 2012 #100

are there parents who react the same if their kid doesn't do well in something like math, science JI7 Jun 2012 #135

Bullies are everywhere and lunatica Jun 2012 #142

neighbor's reaction - i like Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 #69

Note how he says "you know my son?" to try to imply some perversion for someone being decent. joshcryer Jun 2012 #70

I saw that as the stepdad blaming the kid for being beaten obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #94

Don't I know from experience what that feels like. Mine was more.."I plan on breaking you." vaberella Jun 2012 #75

If that's considered abuse, holy fuck. boppers Jun 2012 #78

"Abusive" is beating a kid because he's not playing to your expectations. EOTE Jun 2012 #80

My meter, as I said, is broken. boppers Jun 2012 #81

That's fair, and I'm sorry once again. EOTE Jun 2012 #83

I can tell you that abuse is lunatica Jun 2012 #103

I don't know what to say. Warren DeMontague Jun 2012 #82

Not your fault, or your problem. eom boppers Jun 2012 #86

Actually it is society's problem lunatica Jun 2012 #105

May I ask the same question of you? LiberalAndProud Jun 2012 #84

My meter is broken. boppers Jun 2012 #87

I have no words. LiberalAndProud Jun 2012 #129

I have no children. boppers Jun 2012 #141

I'm so sorry. Yes. It's undoubtedly abuse cali Jun 2012 #85

So, who wasn't hit by a belt? boppers Jun 2012 #90

My heart breaks for you. I really hope you've had help cali Jun 2012 #92

Yes,what was done to teh boy is abusive obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #96

The abuser is an elected official obamanut2012 Jun 2012 #95

I doubt he'll ever be elected for anything again lunatica Jun 2012 #104

How did they get my dad on videotape? There wasn't even video back then! Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #97

I'm sorry you or any child has endured such abuse lunatica Jun 2012 #106

I wonder how many incidents there we do not see Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2012 #101

Grandfather was on Today Show vankuria Jun 2012 #108

I am not defending the mans actions but is everyone willing to ruin a family over a 10 min. video?? Pisces Jun 2012 #113

Okay, we water board him for two hours, then the video gets pulled down snooper2 Jun 2012 #115

wait ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #118

thanks for my first real LOL of today snooper2 Jun 2012 #123

! ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #125

This may help ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #117

"Ruin a family"? What the fuck kind of family is this? TBF Jun 2012 #121

Child abuse gets handed down from generation to generation slackmaster Jun 2012 #120

My father did this kind of thing in public Rittermeister Jun 2012 #122

My grandmother and all her kids used to say, "where is the belt?" EFerrari Jun 2012 #137

"That's enough fuck stick" tawadi Jun 2012 #128

+1 ManyShadesOf Jun 2012 #134

I adore the way the person filming engages this terrible man TroglodyteScholar Jun 2012 #138

I remember when I was a small child and it seemed like this kind o thing went on all the time. TNLib Jun 2012 #136

Sorry, but any parent who feels the need to spank, much less BELT a child, is obviously Proles Jun 2012 #139

Three cheers for the neighbor! ljm2002 Jun 2012 #143

sadistic asshole. WI_DEM Jun 2012 #144

breaking news: Sanchez resigns his position with Irrigation district WI_DEM Jun 2012 #145