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32. I would provide federal funds for that.

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What does a law abiding citizen need with an assault weapon?? [View all] Gomez163 Jun 2016 OP

NOTHING. elleng Jun 2016 #1

What is an "assault weapon"? TeddyR Jun 2016 #2

My response would be to widen the ban if you nitpick. Gonna nitpick?? Gomez163 Jun 2016 #3

I am TeddyR Jun 2016 #4

Does the right to keep and bear arms have limits? I say it does. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #8

It does! TeddyR Jun 2016 #10

I would limit it to one hand gun and one rifle. And I would chip them. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #13

Ok TeddyR Jun 2016 #21

We dont know what would have stopped today's tragedy. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #23

It's pointless to argue. They will never admit that Sanders self-serving position annavictorious Jun 2016 #39

You want to make this about Sanders? Straw Man Jun 2016 #85

How stupid. 840high Jun 2016 #129

???? WTF jack_krass Jun 2016 #159

Ye, we already have many limits in place Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #12

Today is proof the system is not working. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #14

Of course it would. Straw Man Jun 2016 #5

Do you have enough guns now? Or would you like more?? Gomez163 Jun 2016 #7

"Enough guns"? Straw Man Jun 2016 #16

I want to limit them as needed. One hand gun and one rifle per person. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #19

Real time tracking? Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #22

I would. Its a dangerous object. I would want to know where it was at all times. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #25

How do you power it? Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #33

I would put the onus on the owner to arrange it or turn the gun over. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #40

Quite unconstitutional Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #64

I think Heller would still allow reasonable regulation. It forbid an outright ban. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #66

It's not possible. Quackers Jun 2016 #54

What do you mean by chip them? nt Quackers Jun 2016 #27

Affix a tracking device to them. It could be a small sticker if necessary. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #30

Ok gotcha. Fwiw, all firearms already have individual serial numbers on them. nt Quackers Jun 2016 #34

Which is exactly what the Orlando shooter had. Straw Man Jun 2016 #31

I would provide federal funds for that. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #32

Sure you would Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #36

Whatever is necessary. Mind you the money is to uphold the Second Amendment. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #38

Not if you follow sarisataka Jun 2016 #76

The fourth amendment would apply to persons, not what you carry Gomez163 Jun 2016 #80

Sure if you believe so Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #89

I was thinking of sarisataka Jun 2016 #95

I would gladly pay to be rid of the offending item. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #97

Perhaps you would sarisataka Jun 2016 #104

I would ransom all of my tomorrows to have those 50 people back. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #105

I can appreciate sarisataka Jun 2016 #106

The shooter had an AR 15. Im talking about a rife to kill dangerous wildlife Gomez163 Jun 2016 #35

Right -- an AR 15 is underpowered for dangerous game. Straw Man Jun 2016 #61

The AR is great for small dangerous animals Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #68

You go hunting with an AR-15 or this AR-10 Gomez163 Jun 2016 #73

They are used for feral hogs around here Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #78

Lots of people do. Straw Man Jun 2016 #81

What about someone who already owns three (or more) guns? Will they be confiscated? Just reading posts Jun 2016 #149

Buyback plan Gomez163 Jun 2016 #150

That would cost (roughly) $300 billion dollars. What do you think are the chances of such a plan Just reading posts Jun 2016 #153

Over 10 years Gomez163 Jun 2016 #155

Again, I ask: What do you think the chances are of such legislation being passed? Just reading posts Jun 2016 #156

I have 1 TeddyR Jun 2016 #17

.+1 840high Jun 2016 #130

I have several Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #20

Guns are like golf clubs, different game, different gun sports, different activities, seasonal braddy Jun 2016 #124

Posturing, and posing, and strutting around pretending to have expertise annavictorious Jun 2016 #46

I'm not "pretending" anything. Straw Man Jun 2016 #67

Anything with a detachable magazine or clip. DCBob Jun 2016 #15

Wait, so..... Adrahil Jun 2016 #131

There can be exceptions for antiques as there are now. DCBob Jun 2016 #135

I'd say that anything with a manual action would be exempt. Adrahil Jun 2016 #136

Yes, that makes total sense. DCBob Jun 2016 #140

Oh boy, another gun apologist wants to play he Gun Nomenclature Game. Hoyt Jun 2016 #127

An assault rifle is select fire (full auto or semi auto) REP Jun 2016 #133

I can't think of a single reason that a civilian should have access to military grade weapons. Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #6

It was not military grade Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #24

Killed 50 and wounded 53 in a night club. yallerdawg Jun 2016 #71

In a criminals hands, anything Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #86

You are insinuating that this assault weapon... yallerdawg Jun 2016 #94

When was an AR type weapon ever marketed to murder Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #98

Just watch the "news" today. yallerdawg Jun 2016 #110

As a hunting rifle, it seems to be very popular for hunting people. Arkansas Granny Jun 2016 #79

THANK YOU. nt raccoon Jun 2016 #121

This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Jun 2016 #146

Depend on what an assault weapon is Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #9

Assault weapon is just a made up term by gun control advocates. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #11

How many do you need? Gomez163 Jun 2016 #18

As many as I want. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #42

Is this the society you want? What if that was a loved one that got shot? Gomez163 Jun 2016 #44

I would be very sad Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #49

Over the last 40 years or so...homicide rates have fallen by 50% in the U.S. Kang Colby Jun 2016 #51

I read all that you're saying in the posts above on gun-nut boards all day long Dem2 Jun 2016 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Jun 2016 #147

I own guns Dem2 Jun 2016 #148

This message was self-deleted by its author Matt_R Jun 2016 #154

Not sure what the point of that question is. Adrahil Jun 2016 #132

Need, or want? Lots of ways to justify having something. jmg257 Jun 2016 #26

You have to ask yourself is this the society you want? Gomez163 Jun 2016 #28

I'm more liable to ask what can be done to make things better. Nt jmg257 Jun 2016 #41

I would get rid of alcohol and cell phones Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #43

I also worry about a society where murdering radical extremists homophobes jmg257 Jun 2016 #65

Couldn't say. Mine are all counterassault weapons. linuxman Jun 2016 #29

Why do you need that much weaponry? Gomez163 Jun 2016 #37

Is there now a department of needs? Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #45

Because the price you pay is to foster a gun culture that Gomez163 Jun 2016 #48

Still have not found the study that Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #55

How do you explain the disparity between the US and Japan and the UK?? Gomez163 Jun 2016 #62

Like I said before and you dismissed Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #70

I just dont think it tells the whole story. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #77

Gun culture does no such thing. beevul Jun 2016 #96

This person does get their facts from Twitter Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #100

Deflecting begs the question. Sanders position on guns is a fatal disqualification. annavictorious Jun 2016 #53

Sounds like the poster target shoots like me Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #47

How much do you think I have, exactly? I gave no number. linuxman Jun 2016 #60

Exactly....that's why I only buy counter-assault firearms. ileus Jun 2016 #50

No one needs one... tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #52

Hence the 2013 Obama bill to limit further purchases of the latter. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #58

I really thought we had a chance... tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #63

That law would have easily been defeated by changing the pistol grip for $30. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #82

They seem to work fine everywhere but here. Why is that? Gomez163 Jun 2016 #84

I dont know what you mean by "they work fine by everywhere but here" aikoaiko Jun 2016 #87

Dont see many mass shootings in the UK or Japan. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #91

True but there are probably many reasons for that including guns. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #102

Is this how you want it? Gomez163 Jun 2016 #103

I don't know if I have a choice. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #107

Basically they are relatively low-power, reliable, and durable rifles Recursion Jun 2016 #56

I'm not making judgments. Life is a balancing of interests. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #69

I'm not sure. As awful as it is to say today, mass shootings aren't what I really care about Recursion Jun 2016 #74

I always thought the whole malitia vs Govt thing Lance Bass esquire Jun 2016 #57

. linuxman Jun 2016 #88

What is profoundly ignorant is the idea that Vietnam acts as any kind of comparison for this. Kentonio Jun 2016 #115

You're right, it is different. linuxman Jun 2016 #117

You seem to be conveniently overlooking the fact that any oppressive domestic regime Kentonio Jun 2016 #119

I wouldn't be sure about that. linuxman Jun 2016 #120

"Americans as a whole value life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness, and personal wellbeing." Kentonio Jun 2016 #122

Considering 2/3 of those are suicides, the Patriot act is universally loathed, linuxman Jun 2016 #123

Oh its 'universally loathed' is it? Kentonio Jun 2016 #125

The whole purpose of the 2nd was not so the people could jmg257 Jun 2016 #92

For Tactical Tier 1 Operator status, of course Matrosov Jun 2016 #59

Depends upon where you live One_Life_To_Give Jun 2016 #72

To enlarge their inadequate selves and stroke with vigorous affection jpak Jun 2016 #75

The term is External Death Penis. Gomez163 Jun 2016 #101

Don't these people realize guns kill people? ileus Jun 2016 #83

Yes, and we realize that's why you and other gungeoneers are attracted to them. Hoyt Jun 2016 #90

Oh really Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #93

They buy them because they can kill with them. If that was not an interest, a BB gun would work for Hoyt Jun 2016 #99

well, this particular weapon has assaulted many.... spanone Jun 2016 #108

I'm told you can't ban them because there are so many types of them Gomez163 Jun 2016 #109

Well, simply naming a model is useless. Adrahil Jun 2016 #134

How about being able to shoot 20 rounds real fast? Gomez163 Jun 2016 #137

That gets to the heart of the matter.... semi-automatic capability. Adrahil Jun 2016 #139

Most of the mass shootings involve recent purchases Gomez163 Jun 2016 #142

That is true. Good luck. Adrahil Jun 2016 #145

My understanding Duckhunter935 Jun 2016 #112

Nobody needs one. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #111

Not to pick a fight, but you asked... JohnnyRingo Jun 2016 #113

Even in most countries with bans there are still exceptions made for farmers. Kentonio Jun 2016 #116

They'll play semantic games with this one like they usually do uponit7771 Jun 2016 #114

To kill people still_one Jun 2016 #126

They are fucking toys/collectables Cosmocat Jun 2016 #128

That's true to some extent. Adrahil Jun 2016 #138

Its the most dishonest conversation this country has Cosmocat Jun 2016 #157

All rights are a balancing act. Adrahil Jun 2016 #160

You can't walk into a school room Cosmocat Jun 2016 #161

Now, we just kill them over time with second hand smoke. Adrahil Jun 2016 #162

The conditioning is rather disturbing, they rush out to be more guns when ever the RWing media Rex Jun 2016 #143

My family and extended family mostly consists of game hunters. Rex Jun 2016 #141

low self esteem, bad aim, deep insecurities IronLionZion Jun 2016 #144

Everyone watch the news tomorrow Calista241 Jun 2016 #151

if you're a gun humping piece of shit coward, you think you need one Skittles Jun 2016 #152

^^That Orrex Jun 2016 #158