Getting it down to the average of the civilized countries would be a good thing, don't you think? (Reply #89)

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Sun Jun 12, 2016, 01:59 PM

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89. Getting it down to the average of the civilized countries would be a good thing, don't you think?

As things stand now, this country, as a industrialized nation, is the world's leader in both domestic gun violence and our export of our gun violence via our military. Both need to be stopped.
Just because it may be unrealistic to totally eliminate gun violence, does not mean, in any way, we should not at least try.
I'm getting from your posts that because it cannot be 100% eliminated, we should not try. Am I correct, or not?

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134 replies	Author	Time	Post
Maybe the Florida shooting is the last straw.... [View all]	clarice	Jun 2016	OP
Yeah, like Sandyhook did correct?	-none	Jun 2016	#1
I was speaking of the Florida shootings.nt	clarice	Jun 2016	#2
What's the difference?	-none	Jun 2016	#3
Once again, back to the text of my post....	clarice	Jun 2016	#4
One could hope for that outcome.	TexasProgresive	Jun 2016	#25
Once again... I'm amazed by the number of Sandy Hook references to my OP...	clarice	Jun 2016	#42
The PTB who can enact sensible gun laws	TexasProgresive	Jun 2016	#97
It's not deflecting attention, it's lamenting a lack of action	Scootaloo	Jun 2016	#101
I'm amazed that you are amazed	WiffenPoof	Jun 2016	#120
It's because of your use of "last straw"	jberryhill	Jun 2016	#126
I heard a commentator this morning remark....	Adrahil	Jun 2016	#129
Our country is off the rails in many ways.	-none	Jun 2016	#41
Ok...but why deflect the Florida shootings (if it was terrorism) with gun control?	clarice	Jun 2016	#49
Better firearm control means less weapons in the hands of those that should not be having them	-none	Jun 2016	#93
How well did that work in France?	Straw Man	Jun 2016	#103
Please don't tell me that	-none	Jun 2016	#107
I asked you a question.	Straw Man	Jun 2016	#112
I did. France is not Florida.	-none	Jun 2016	#116
You tapdance divinely.	Straw Man	Jun 2016	#121
That is because we are looking at this differently.	-none	Jun 2016	#122
Begging your pardon ...	Straw Man	Jun 2016	#123
If nothing happens after little kids are slaughtered, nothing is going to happen.	Vinca	Jun 2016	#5
Back to the OP.....don't you think that uniting is a good idea?nt	clarice	Jun 2016	#7
Thank you for trying to keep people on topic.	Joe the Revelator	Jun 2016	#12
It's tough...but I won't give up.nt	clarice	Jun 2016	#15
Yes. I saw the cultural relativists were quick to try to derail your thread	Albertoo	Jun 2016	#113
I think realism is a good idea.	Vinca	Jun 2016	#16
I respectfully disagree... I think 99% of the population...delpores this....	clarice	Jun 2016	#27
I think you're very naive, but maybe that's a good thing.	Vinca	Jun 2016	#99
I for one...will NEVER give up. nt	clarice	Jun 2016	#134
How about: mental health care AND radical Islam should BOTH be tackled?	Albertoo	Jun 2016	#114
If a room full of dead six year olds didn't do it,	sufrommich	Jun 2016	#6
Back to the OP.....don't you think that uniting is a good idea?nt	clarice	Jun 2016	#8
What does "uniting" even mean?	sufrommich	Jun 2016	#10
Automatic weapons	lancer78	Jun 2016	#33
Semi-autos are plenty deadly, just look at last night. Stop the gunner BS.	Hoyt	Jun 2016	#78
This	yuiyoshida	Jun 2016	#102
Guns are likely already flying off the shelves	One_Life_To_Give	Jun 2016	#9
Perhaps...but what about the idea in the OP and uniting? nt	clarice	Jun 2016	#11
Two diametrically opposed camps seldom unite	One_Life_To_Give	Jun 2016	#31
Thank you...but I was speaking more about a united....	clarice	Jun 2016	#40
Yes. That's exactly why you aren't getting the kind of "uniting" you're calling for.	kcr	Jun 2016	#98
Is there some lack of unity in condemning terrorism?	jberryhill	Jun 2016	#130
You keep saying "Back to the original post" - whether or not individuals	qnr	Jun 2016	#13
Yes, but no one has addressed the benefits of all groups uniting. nt	clarice	Jun 2016	#14
And you didn't address how you think you're going to get all of those groups to unite	mythology	Jun 2016	#19
I wish I HAD the answer. I presented a possible deterrent (not an answer).....	clarice	Jun 2016	#23
As was mentioned in another post, a large segment of the population are going	qnr	Jun 2016	#21
You know, honestly....perhaps I'm naive....	clarice	Jun 2016	#26
Love the attitude :D - I recommend that you stay away from the comments section on almost anything	qnr	Jun 2016	#28
Thanks....qnr......but I can assure you....	clarice	Jun 2016	#35
Yes, you are naive.	alarimer	Jun 2016	#119
You are naive	dumbcat	Jun 2016	#125
I don't believe we can prevent all acts of terror.	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#17
True...but presenting a solid front stating that we won't tolerate things like ...	clarice	Jun 2016	#18
I agree... Your intentions are noble...	DemocratSinceBirth	Jun 2016	#22
Getting it down to the average of the civilized countries would be a good thing, don't you think?	-none	Jun 2016	#89
Best idea of the day...	sarisataka	Jun 2016	#20
BINGO....Thank you. I wasn't trying to posit the final solution...	clarice	Jun 2016	#24
They already have come to a common consensus.	A HERETIC I AM	Jun 2016	#29
Yes...Sandy Hook was a terrible tragedy, but back to the discussion at hand	clarice	Jun 2016	#37
I never went away from the discussion at hand.	A HERETIC I AM	Jun 2016	#44
With all respect... I think that you KNOW the answer to that.nt	clarice	Jun 2016	#50
What? That they were children at Sandy Hook and these were grown adults at a club?	A HERETIC I AM	Jun 2016	#56
I have posted this around today	randr	Jun 2016	#30
Excellent sniff sniffnt	clarice	Jun 2016	#38
It would be nice...	deathrind	Jun 2016	#32
No, This Is The New Norm	SoCalMusicLover	Jun 2016	#34
Sod all.	Dalziel3979	Jun 2016	#36
That's the NRA wet dream	SwankyXomb	Jun 2016	#96
I am finding it interesting that there are many posts mentioning....	clarice	Jun 2016	#39
If we had done our duty after Sandy Hook, this last shooting most likely would not have happened.	-none	Jun 2016	#94
Ok...with all due respect....can we stay away from the Sandy Hook analogies?..I get it..	clarice	Jun 2016	#43
Your OP was about trying to get people to come together to stop this sort of thing.	A HERETIC I AM	Jun 2016	#52
As to your last line.. No one here has even ADDRESSED the Florida shootings...	clarice	Jun 2016	#55
To WHAT DEGREE WOULD YOU LIKE THEM ADDRESSED?!?!?!?!?	A HERETIC I AM	Jun 2016	#59
I obviously struck some sort of nerve...sorry about that....	clarice	Jun 2016	#62
The nerve you have struck is your repeated insistence that others make the points,,,,	A HERETIC I AM	Jun 2016	#73
Nice sentiment, but I think more in the realm of fantasy than reality. n/t	Crunchy Frog	Jun 2016	#45
Just an idea.nt	clarice	Jun 2016	#47
I like a good fantasy as much as the next person.	Crunchy Frog	Jun 2016	#60
I thought that my idea was better than useless snarking....apparently you disagree. nt	clarice	Jun 2016	#64
What is it that you want, that hasn't already been done?	Crunchy Frog	Jun 2016	#77
Admit we have a problem....admit that it is of a foreign nature....	clarice	Jun 2016	#81
I think we have all admitted there's a problem.	Crunchy Frog	Jun 2016	#90
you seem to be asking LGBT to get used to being murdered and that is unacceptable.	Bluenorthwest	Jun 2016	#108
Where the FUCK did you read that in my post!?!?!?!?	Crunchy Frog	Jun 2016	#110
You seem to be defending the actions of the Stanford rapist, and that is unacceptable.	Crunchy Frog	Jun 2016	#111
Please just bury your head in the sand	Dem2	Jun 2016	#124
Also.... I'm getting the feeling that my idea of all parties......	clarice	Jun 2016	#46
Is there evidence that this was organized terrorism	Crunchy Frog	Jun 2016	#57
No....just taking a que from what was reported on CNN...	clarice	Jun 2016	#61
I am staying on topic. I responded to the exact wording of your post.	Crunchy Frog	Jun 2016	#69
You haven't read any "we deserve it posts"? ooooops, someone just posted one....	clarice	Jun 2016	#75
if the children at sandy hook didn't move congress, this will do NOTHING.	spanone	Jun 2016	#48
You did that on purpose. lol	clarice	Jun 2016	#51
it's true. if children being slaughtered wasn't the last straw, there is none.	spanone	Jun 2016	#54
No...what I meant is.....	clarice	Jun 2016	#58
It's not about 'deflecting' anything.	Kentonio	Jun 2016	#105
i doubt it	Calista241	Jun 2016	#53
I don't think so.... I don't have any LGBT children or relatives...	clarice	Jun 2016	#65
There's a big difference between hating a guy that killed people	Calista241	Jun 2016	#70
I'm sorry C. ya lost me...what big societal changes did I posit?nt	clarice	Jun 2016	#72
sorry. I was conflating your post with the OP's premise of "is this the last straw"	Calista241	Jun 2016	#74
NO way !!!! lol. I'm totally pro second amendment. nt	clarice	Jun 2016	#76
Last straw for what? For who?	Algernon Moncrieff	Jun 2016	#63
+1000	smirkymonkey	Jun 2016	#67
another Sandy Hook mention.nt	clarice	Jun 2016	#68
This message was self-deleted by its author	Th1onein	Jun 2016	#66
+1 for the "Bad America team" pitiful.nt	clarice	Jun 2016	#71
This message was self-deleted by its author	Th1onein	Jun 2016	#88
Kunduz hospital bombing, 42 dead	Fumesucker	Jun 2016	#117
Maybe Columbine was the last straw. Maybe Sandy Hook was the last straw. Maybe...	Hekate	Jun 2016	#79
Or maybe this incident was perpertrated by a lunatic with....	clarice	Jun 2016	#83
You can't obtain poison gas legally or easily.	Crunchy Frog	Jun 2016	#92
Well, Clarice - have the lambs stopped screaming?	Gomez163	Jun 2016	#80
The most sensible post in this thread so far.	Crunchy Frog	Jun 2016	#84
Yes...but I must ask you to re-read the OP and keep you comments on topic.nt	clarice	Jun 2016	#85
Sorry. I was being ironic.	Gomez163	Jun 2016	#87
Your use of "last straw" invites comparisons to previous incidents	jberryhill	Jun 2016	#128
Everyone is already united against terrorism	One Black Sheep	Jun 2016	#82
Your post sounds like a threat.	Bluenorthwest	Jun 2016	#109
Time for lunch.... be back later.nt	clarice	Jun 2016	#86
Or maybe it's just another day in America....	tabasco	Jun 2016	#91
Do you think we should all vote for Trump?	Kingofalldems	Jun 2016	#95
Here's something to ponder about the GOP:	Kingofalldems	Jun 2016	#100
Thread's not quite going how you hoped, is it?	TDale313	Jun 2016	#104
Clarice, you have broken the rules of orthodoxy....	Eleanors38	Jun 2016	#106
Well, at times of danger, it might make sense to get some unity vs the danger	Albertoo	Jun 2016	#115
You imply we have very broad dangers, and I agree. Much broader than gun policy.	Eleanors38	Jun 2016	#133
I wish, but it won't	alarimer	Jun 2016	#118
I don't believe that people are going to allow themselves to be slaughtered much longer.	patsimp	Jun 2016	#127
People Are Idiots	SoCalMusicLover	Jun 2016	#131
Hello Clarice (Hopkins will always do that better)	discntnt_irny_srcsm	Jun 2016	#132

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