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Response to dumbcat (Reply #14)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:32 PM

19. I never once said they were "weapons" nor claimed they were "firearms"

I said that they were LEGALLY not considered toys thus not requiring the orange tip signifying them as toys.

Per your request, I gave you the relevant federal statute that clearly explicitly states that BB guns and pellet guns are EXEMPT from having the orange tip signifying they are toys because they are NOT considered toys according to federal law. Only two states consider them to be actual legal "firearms" (New Jersey and Rhode Island) though I don't know if I entirely agree with that... not that is matters, because the law is what it is and what you asked for. They fall into the gray area of federal law where they are not considered "firearms" where they would have to be regulated as any bullet firing firearm yet by federal law they are not considered to be toys EITHER thus not being required to have the orange tip that signifies them as such.

Clearly you have lost sight of the issue here. People - often young children - are purchasing or having purchased for them projectile firing guns that are not toys by federal law with no distinguishing mark (the orange tip) that marks them as a toy and that look entirely like an actual legal "firearm". THIS IS OBVIOUSLY THE PROBLEM. And it is a problem that is regularly getting people including young children maimed and killed.

And if you want to play more word games... though I never said they were legally "weapons" (although any damn thing can be used as a weapon) they most certainly ARE weapons when they can KILL by being struck by the projectiles they fire, which is WHY I brought up the statement by the gun dealer who believes they SHOULD be regulated more stringently and when some of these guns are more powerful/lethal than a .22 that IS a legal "firearm" and thus regulated as such. When a gun dealer of all people says that they are dangerous and may be more lethal than a .22 legal firearm it's PASSED time to do something about it instead of brushing it off as if these things are just harmless toys when they are very clearly NOT.

Merely slapping a warning sticker on the package while they are marketed to kids and not even locked up in cases but sitting on store shelves is a huge part of the problem - and it is that way because the laws regarding them SUCK so badly that people and often young kids are being maimed and killed because they and their parents have been lead to believe they are just toys. They are NOT toys and not LEGALLY considered toys. PERIOD.

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