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Response to Lodestar (Original post)

Sun Apr 24, 2016, 03:35 AM

21. actually there is a fair amount of freedom in a large corporation

I mean, at a job, you kinda have to do your job, but it is not like your whole day is regimented by somebody constantly giving you orders.

I don't necessarily agree about what he said about Vietnam either. "murderous aggression"? In what respect?

He also seems to contradict himself there in that last quote. Saying that oppressive institutions like slavery or royalty have been changed seems kinda positive for him. I thought he would be more likely to claim that the oppression was just transformed, but it is still just as bad. So when we got rid of royalty we didn't just exchange one elite ruler for another set of elites?

Some of this stuff is just crap. I mean it is radical in its hostility to our society, but it is preposterous on its face.

"Both prisons and inner-city schools target a kind of superfluous population that there's no point educating because there's nothing for them to do. Because we're a civilized people, we put them in prison, rather than sending death squads out to murder them."

"Nothing for them to do?" What is that supposed to mean? Why can't they work the same kind of sh*t jobs that I have had all of my life? Why can't they have hobbies? Joe Inner City has just as much to do as I do, and just as much to do as Noam. And prison? Well, it would be nice if there was more education and opportunity and less need for prison, but really lots of people are put in prison because they shot at other people or because they stole things. But it is bad to punish murderers and thieves and/or to lock them up to prevent recividism?

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