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hunter

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38. In the former Soviet Union they were in such a hurry to build bombs...
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 09:06 PM
Apr 2016

... they sometimes didn't put the stuff in tanks. Yep, they simply dug a hole and poured it in.

China has similar sites. Of course, they've got places even worse, contaminated with toxins that have a "half life" of FOREVER.




We reached the shore, and looked across the lake. I’d seen some photos before I left for Inner Mongolia, but nothing prepared me for the sight. It’s a truly alien environment, dystopian and horrifying. The thought that it is man-made depressed and terrified me, as did the realisation that this was the byproduct not just of the consumer electronics in my pocket, but also green technologies like wind turbines and electric cars that we get so smugly excited about in the West. Unsure of quite how to react, I take photos and shoot video on my cerium polished iPhone.

You can see the lake on Google Maps, and that hints at the scale. Zoom in far enough and you can make out the dozens of pipes that line the shore. Unknown Fields’ Liam Young collected some samples of the waste and took it back to the UK to be tested. “The clay we collected from the toxic lake tested at around three times background radiation,” he later tells me.

http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20150402-the-worst-place-on-earth


Three times background radiation really isn't the worst of it. It's the stuff that doesn't reveal itself to the radiation counter that will kill you.

The horrors of our high energy industrial society are all around us. There may be one parked in your driveway. Ordinary gasoline and used motor oil are carcinogens. So are the microscopic particles that lodge in your lungs, spewed out of your car's exhaust pipe or shed by your car's brakes and tires.

I don't know anyone who has been killed by radioactive waste, but I've known many people killed by automobiles, and I've known many natural landscapes destroyed by highways, roads, parking lots, and other automobile enabled "economic development."

Hanford is an expensive mess to clean up, but it's nowhere near the worst place in the world, which is, I think, commuting in stop-and-go traffic on California's 405 freeway or driving anywhere in Mexico City at any time for any reason. But that's just my personal experience. I'm certain there are worse automobile hells, just as there are worse radioactive hells than Hanford.

Yikes! flor-de-jasmim Apr 2016 #1
Ok - 8 inches sounds bad, but not if it's in a 50 gallon drum. A better estimate of the actual jonno99 Apr 2016 #2
Try 20,000 gallons containing some of the worst waste in existence. JEB Apr 2016 #3
Ah - I missed that link - thanks. nt jonno99 Apr 2016 #4
Nuclear energy never was "cheap" for taxpayers, only profitable for nuke builders.. ~eom vkkv Apr 2016 #5
The waste is not from Nuclear Power ZombetteZar Apr 2016 #21
"Clean" energy my ass LiberalEsto Apr 2016 #6
The only legitimate point they can raise SCantiGOP Apr 2016 #14
I mean, it's perfectly safe, bananas are more dangerous, why do you hate science?! MisterP Apr 2016 #7
And genetically modified atoms are just as safe as geneticially modified tomatoes. Besides, Jesus. valerief Apr 2016 #17
so the leak is not in the ground, its still contained in the tank right? Takket Apr 2016 #8
Leak is still within the tank ZombetteZar Apr 2016 #24
And, of course, the last wall (The Alamo Wall) will never fail....ever! bvar22 Apr 2016 #26
The Outer Tank Constructed By Same Contractor Who Built New Orleans Levees - Relax Yallow Apr 2016 #32
+10000000000000 2naSalit Apr 2016 #51
I was just stating facts... ZombetteZar Apr 2016 #56
Yikes! chwaliszewski Apr 2016 #9
K and R! bbgrunt Apr 2016 #10
Go solar. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #11
Before that can happen in any serious way we need to stop the states and power companies that have Dustlawyer Apr 2016 #39
One of the reasons I support Bernie is that he is not so enmeshed in the political machinations JDPriestly Apr 2016 #40
I don't know why everyone in this thread seems determined to call this 'nuclear power' as if it was AtheistCrusader Apr 2016 #12
^^^^this^^^^ mopinko Apr 2016 #16
Probably not.... Delver Rootnose Apr 2016 #41
At this point, it's original use is not a factor in what to do about it now. JimDandy Apr 2016 #18
It is relevenant, for two reasons. AtheistCrusader Apr 2016 #19
I agree with everything you posted JimDandy Apr 2016 #23
Oh...so the Nuclear Waste produced by today's Nuke Power Plants is safe? bvar22 Apr 2016 #25
Usually when someone starts a sentence with 'so' a massive, ridiculous strawman follows. AtheistCrusader Apr 2016 #31
That is generally correct, BUT... bvar22 Apr 2016 #33
Never suggested it was safe. AtheistCrusader Apr 2016 #35
Not really....NO. bvar22 Apr 2016 #36
How do dry casks of commercial rods 'leak into the columbia river'? AtheistCrusader Apr 2016 #45
How is the deadly radioactive waste removed from the power plant bvar22 Apr 2016 #52
They are moved to a cooling pool until the decay heat is within spec for the cask. AtheistCrusader Apr 2016 #53
"not a leakage hazard like the Hanford mess" bvar22 Apr 2016 #54
How do solid metal rods "leak" when their casks are pierced? NickB79 Apr 2016 #58
What about the water in the "cooling ponds"? bvar22 Apr 2016 #59
I believe that's actually safe. AtheistCrusader Apr 2016 #61
I suppose the casks could get hit with a meteor or something, sure. AtheistCrusader Apr 2016 #60
The solid fuel rods are lifted out with a crane NickB79 Apr 2016 #57
agree completely Angel Martin Apr 2016 #55
A lot of shit is, however. Fukishima!! This article's consequences, apply to the nuclear FighttheFuture Apr 2016 #20
Some percentage overlaps, but Fukushima Dai-ichi has no relevance to this issue. AtheistCrusader Apr 2016 #22
Oh PLEASE! Nuclear Waste being released into our environment is extremely relevant, bvar22 Apr 2016 #29
"The failure of the inner shell demonstrates how UNSAFE our system of containment is" AtheistCrusader Apr 2016 #46
What began as a reasonable concern has turned into a religious cult. hunter Apr 2016 #49
I voted for Jimmy Carter. saidsimplesimon Apr 2016 #13
Some more links related to this. JEB Apr 2016 #15
Thank you, JEB! You're doing what the Mainstream Media Monopoly doesn't do: Report the Truth. Octafish Apr 2016 #27
Call Japan. They have lots of experience in trying to cover nuclear leaks up while people die. n/t jtuck004 Apr 2016 #28
Map of site. Right upstream from Tri-Cities and Portland. ErikJ Apr 2016 #30
I LOVE the Colombia River, especially The Gorge. bvar22 Apr 2016 #34
"which has been slowly leaking since 2011" WTF?? navarth Apr 2016 #37
In the former Soviet Union they were in such a hurry to build bombs... hunter Apr 2016 #38
MEANWHILE....THE MEDIA AND NATION ARGUE/OBSESS OVER BERNIE SANDERS AND THE POPE! cynzke Apr 2016 #42
Well, that's comforting. Warren DeMontague Apr 2016 #43
We just left the Tri-Cities on Saturday LadyHawkAZ Apr 2016 #50
Chernobyl on the Hudson JohnyCanuck Apr 2016 #44
Thanks for the informative video. JEB Apr 2016 #48
Is there news out there besides from CT sites? Matt_R Apr 2016 #62
here's a solution redruddyred Apr 2016 #47
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