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Erose999

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181. Gore had already won the popular vote. It was the electoral vote that mattered and 60k votes

Fri Apr 1, 2016, 08:58 AM

Apr 2016

scattered around the country probably wouldn't have made much of a difference. Gore had already won places where people would have been inclined to vote Nader.

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Susan Sarandon: "all I know is that I just can’t live with myself if I don’t say something." [View all] closeupready Mar 2016 OP

I believe the ridiculous demonization of Sarandon by Hillary supporters is because, as a strong djean111 Mar 2016 #1

Absolutely agree. closeupready Mar 2016 #3

If you agree.... I probably agree too. Smarmie Doofus Mar 2016 #6

Bernie is the best candidate this country has had in my lifetime Baobab Mar 2016 #136

i fear you are correct about this being our last chance questionseverything Mar 2016 #140

I refuse to admit defeat nxylas Apr 2016 #183

You are so right! Best candidate in my lifetime. 72 years. JDPriestly Apr 2016 #170

I was just thinking, this morning, that this is why the Dixie Chicks were demonized - djean111 Mar 2016 #8

Nothing to do with her being a woman, but everything to do with her being a tinfoilnaderite. nt onehandle Mar 2016 #9

Nader ran 16 years ago. Hillary opposed marriage equality until 3 years ago. If the one is a Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #12

The consequences of voting for Nader redstateblues Mar 2016 #35

It is a fantasy that Gore lost because of Nader. PufPuf23 Mar 2016 #63

All are true except #5. Gore ran away from Clinton and his record the entire election cycle. TeamPooka Mar 2016 #73

Maybe a mutual adversity between Clinton and Gore? PufPuf23 Mar 2016 #76

It's all about the fact Gore couldn't win his damn home state. If he had won TN then he wins clean TeamPooka Mar 2016 #99

I'll concede to the loss in TN (that I did note) but the Nader stuff is still BS. eom PufPuf23 Mar 2016 #102

agreed. TeamPooka Mar 2016 #103

West Virginia or New Hampshire rpannier Apr 2016 #155

That IS something often overlooked. nt 7962 Apr 2016 #178

If Al Gore had JUST ONCE looked to The Left, bvar22 Mar 2016 #122

People here forget that Gore was part of the Democratic Leadership Council PufPuf23 Mar 2016 #123

Gore did win as we now know.Too quick to concede. It was a cou bjobotts Apr 2016 #157

I did the same thing to vote against Reagan in the 190 primaries, the switched back to D tblue37 Mar 2016 #141

Nader cost the country a War by putting Bush in offiice lewebley3 Mar 2016 #153

You are wrong. PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #154

They are wrong. Misinformed. Nader no effect on the race...none bjobotts Apr 2016 #158

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If FLA had played out the election protocol and the USSC not awarded FLA to GWB, PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #163

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I want Democrats to do better. PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #167

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Trump is not worse than Bush SylviaD Apr 2016 #175

i have to agree. redruddyred Apr 2016 #166

You forgot to add Nader. JohnnyRingo Apr 2016 #171

Nader was a symptom not a cause of the problems as to why the Democrats PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #189

Nader admitted he was a factor in the 2000 election JohnnyRingo Apr 2016 #191

thanks for posting that PufPuf23 YOHABLO Apr 2016 #188

Thank you YOHABLO. PufPuf23 Apr 2016 #190

Bullshit! Bush*/Cheney* were NOT consequences of Nader. Raster Mar 2016 #77

Fuck Nader and his moron apologists. trumad Mar 2016 #118

And another conservative Democrat speaks up beerandjesus Mar 2016 #126

Fuck Nader trumad Mar 2016 #137

I'm sure you're a good Reagan Democrat. beerandjesus Mar 2016 #146

Fuck Nader! trumad Mar 2016 #150

Welcome to my ignore list. Shame, cuz you've had some good posts in the past. beerandjesus Apr 2016 #184

Let me say it again. trumad Apr 2016 #185

GREAT post. beerandjesus Mar 2016 #127

Thank you! Raster Mar 2016 #128

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Gore had already won the popular vote. It was the electoral vote that mattered and 60k votes Erose999 Apr 2016 #181

2.7% went to Ralph Nader. JohnnyRingo Apr 2016 #172

This message was self-deleted by its author passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #124

Have you ever read Ralph Nader's platform, read it. Baobab Mar 2016 #142

That theory has been debunked so many times. Catch up. Nader only affected issues bjobotts Apr 2016 #156

Consequences of voting for Hillary include the Iraq war, DOMA, the PATRIOT ACT, etc. Erose999 Apr 2016 #180

That's such B.S. and you should really do your homework on that issue. YOHABLO Apr 2016 #187

BAM !!!!!!!!!!! Right in the chops !!!!! pangaia Mar 2016 #55

Bernie "Evolved" on marriage equality as well. Fla Dem Mar 2016 #70

From about 1972 -- #3 kristopher Mar 2016 #83

His statement doesn't refer to Gay marriages. Fla Dem Mar 2016 #104

Those are lies, he never said the quotes from 1982 and 2006. My god you people are shameless. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #96

I'll let the articles I posted above speak for themselves. nt Fla Dem Mar 2016 #108

Those have been debunked, you'll need to do a lot better than that. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #111

That is manufactured Rovian bunkum. kristopher Mar 2016 #114

The Twitter account where you got that meme has a picture of Bernie in a Nazi uniform. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #98

That figures. nt kristopher Mar 2016 #105

Not at all surprising, is it? beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #106

You don't know where I got the meme's. Just because they MAY HAVE BEEN posted there Fla Dem Mar 2016 #107

Just stop falsifying history. kristopher Mar 2016 #109

Those lies come from either a right wing source or a rat fucker. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #116

Spoken like someone who is most decidedly NOT a liberal. beerandjesus Mar 2016 #21

Which may be why there's seems to be.... daleanime Mar 2016 #28

Oh, I said there was room... not that they could hog the whole damn thing! beerandjesus Mar 2016 #38

Nader's popularity, like Sanders, is a result of the Democratic party disenfranchising its base. LiberalLovinLug Mar 2016 #112

Two words: Lordquinton Mar 2016 #144

Exactly, they've been attacking her for months, ever since she endorsed Bernie. beam me up scottie Mar 2016 #10

You can't criticize a Democratic politician from the left, but misogyny from the left is uber cool. merrily Mar 2016 #152

The demonization of Hillary by Sarandon is the real issue joeybee12 Mar 2016 #15

She disagrees with things that Hillary has done, and things Hillary stands for. djean111 Mar 2016 #19

Listen to what she said... joeybee12 Mar 2016 #20

Let me know when anyone in Hillary's camp apologizes for the vile spew from David Brock djean111 Mar 2016 #24

FFS yourself joeybee12 Mar 2016 #26

I don't have to defend her. I don't believe she cares what you think. djean111 Mar 2016 #29

Well, you tried to and failed joeybee12 Mar 2016 #31

I think it is time for that Full Ignore button, really. djean111 Mar 2016 #34

Right on! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2016 #75

This thread has been pure gold for beefing up that ignore list, hasn't it? beerandjesus Apr 2016 #186

Let's get back on topic. You're off on a tangent. Ed Suspicious Mar 2016 #79

"Deadbeat?" Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2016 #36

Are you saying Bernie is a deadbeat? SammyWinstonJack Mar 2016 #49

Brock works for Hillary's campaign. Directly. To say otherwise is to lie. n/t arcane1 Mar 2016 #62

Hillary has quit calling people deadbeats during this campaign, I think. Perhaps you could too? jtuck004 Mar 2016 #64

Wait! That's because she first brought them to heel. closeupready Mar 2016 #95

Deadbeat? Has Hillary paid for security at the Des Moines concert on Oct 24 that she Autumn Mar 2016 #89

Ha! Boom! valerief Mar 2016 #117

Bernie paid his. Autumn Mar 2016 #120

I know. And on time. Cuz he doesn't play by the Oligarch rules. nt valerief Mar 2016 #121

She never equated Hillary with Trump and she has LibDemAlways Mar 2016 #27

They asked her outright if she would vote for HIllary joeybee12 Mar 2016 #30

Comparing 2 things does not mean saying they are the same tkmorris Mar 2016 #45

FFS...FFS...FFS.... FFS... pangaia Mar 2016 #60

That's not what she said. This is Limbaugh level distortion claptrap. Major Nikon Mar 2016 #65

Um.... I'm a supporter of Bernie Sanders, and I take full responsiblity for RiverNoord Mar 2016 #101

pretty much stupidicus Mar 2016 #41

How DARE she not agree with Hillary on every topic! arcane1 Mar 2016 #59

oh looky, a subject change by someone who goes on to stupidicus Mar 2016 #61

"you people" plus insults equals stereotyping and scapegoating carolinayellowdog Mar 2016 #84

It is really sad that Hillary supporters constantly conflate policy criticism Maedhros Mar 2016 #91

Demonization? chervilant Mar 2016 #151

Oh the irony Renew Deal Mar 2016 #39

They ridicule her because they don't measure up and have to take shots at her. It's typical behavior ThePhilosopher04 Mar 2016 #51

Susan is responsible for herself: No one made her say those things lewebley3 Mar 2016 #54

I also agree. nt Duval Mar 2016 #58

.+1 840high Mar 2016 #93

Obviously emsimon33 Mar 2016 #148

What is your evidence for this? Adrahil Apr 2016 #182

She also supported Nader and now thinks Trump can start a revolution. leftofcool Mar 2016 #2

In her advocacy of the first, she BlueMTexpat Mar 2016 #4

got to say something hfojvt Mar 2016 #7

i have a good opinion of those who supported nader redruddyred Apr 2016 #168

Susan Sarandon has always been an advocate for the good. n/t Merryland Mar 2016 #5

Ralph Nader was not "the good" redstateblues Mar 2016 #37

There are a lot of people not skewered by pointy auto bumpers and sliced up by windshields, jtuck004 Mar 2016 #50

said to be worth $50 million hfojvt Mar 2016 #11

No one was saying anything about "sacrifice". djean111 Mar 2016 #13

if you walk the walk hfojvt Mar 2016 #43

Doesn't that makes the Clintons exponentially worse, for you? djean111 Mar 2016 #46

Why do some people think hfojvt Mar 2016 #57

but she still gives. nt Javaman Mar 2016 #14

So do many other 1%ers and they are berated on a daily basis. leftofcool Mar 2016 #42

Hillary surrogate Angela Bassett, film acting peer of Sarandon's is worth about $30 million and that Bluenorthwest Mar 2016 #18

She has no more credibility... joeybee12 Mar 2016 #16

Straw man failure in logic Geronimoe Mar 2016 #22

Yeah, she did...apparently you hear only what Bernie joeybee12 Mar 2016 #23

Please cite the quote. nt Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2016 #44

Your posts are devoid of content. Maedhros Mar 2016 #92

Can you even imagine Puglover Mar 2016 #139

She obviously thinks like he does leftofcool Mar 2016 #40

This topic, ostensibly, has ZERO to do with the primaries. closeupready Mar 2016 #78

Because the world waits with baited breath to hear the next gem of wisdom from Surya Gayatri Mar 2016 #17

that is "bated" carolinayellowdog Mar 2016 #88

LOL that was beautiful navarth Mar 2016 #125

Thanks; you can see I was punished. carolinayellowdog Mar 2016 #130

I thought you nailed it navarth Mar 2016 #147

Ever heard of punctuation and capitalization, Professor? johnp3907 Mar 2016 #129

For your expedient edification, should you choose to peruse it: Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #192

Dammit, Janet. Orrex Mar 2016 #25

Oh gawd! That takes me back years... beastie boy Mar 2016 #32

K and R nt Rebkeh Mar 2016 #33

she's a far better person than the 3rdway candidate she opposes stupidicus Mar 2016 #47

She thinks women who have abortions should be punished. leftofcool Mar 2016 #131

then link the quote stupidicus Mar 2016 #134

K&R dchill Mar 2016 #48

Evidently, this includes saying something batshit whacky. beastie boy Mar 2016 #52

I absolutely support Susan Sarandon. SoapBox Mar 2016 #53

I support Susan Sarandon, she wasn't playing along with the corporate media conglomerate's Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #56

You are VW! closeupready Mar 2016 #80

But...was she ever NorthCarolina Mar 2016 #66

Lol! ozone_man Mar 2016 #145

Don't let them get you down Susan. zeemike Mar 2016 #67

I support Susan Sarandon PufPuf23 Mar 2016 #68

Very Patriotic libodem Mar 2016 #69

She's a good actress and I believe she's genuine in her beliefs. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2016 #71

That's fair. closeupready Mar 2016 #81

I believe she was being genuine when she said women who have abortions should be punished leftofcool Mar 2016 #132

She's an awesome human being Prism Mar 2016 #72

One Word Cryptoad Mar 2016 #74

Such tolerance from the Clinton supporters. 840high Mar 2016 #97

Funny... MrWendel Mar 2016 #82

"Walks the walk?" She lives in a $12 MILLION house! George II Mar 2016 #85

Susan is a giver. Hillary us a taker. DamnYankeeInHouston Mar 2016 #86

Please Recognize Your Privilege If You Can Afford Eight Years of Hillary Clinton and the Status Quo Fast Walker 52 Mar 2016 #90

And George Clooney? one_voice Mar 2016 #94

I suspect it be the same folks that mock people like President Jimmy Carter. Rex Mar 2016 #100

Kill the messenger, shame and blame felix_numinous Mar 2016 #110

And now she can add Donald Trump to her list of causes. BainsBane Mar 2016 #113

Excellent response! 6000eliot Mar 2016 #115

Yes and punishing women for abortions. leftofcool Mar 2016 #133

Cute way to get Hillary bashing in GD. trumad Mar 2016 #119

Cute way to get Bernie bashing in GD, B Calm Apr 2016 #177

Try harder, Ms. Sarandon. (nt) Paladin Mar 2016 #135

k & r m-lekktor Mar 2016 #138

I stand with Susan, NOT Hillary Vote2016 Mar 2016 #143

Susan Sarandon is honest, real, an all-round amazing person. We need more people like her. reformist2 Mar 2016 #149

I feel like HawkMode Apr 2016 #159

Susan Sarandon's "comments smacked of petulance and privilege." pnwmom Apr 2016 #160

"This position is dangerous, shortsighted and self-immolating." Surya Gayatri Apr 2016 #174

My inclination is to forgive Sarandon the gaffe. PatrickforO Apr 2016 #164

we're burnin' daylight! hopemountain Apr 2016 #173

The way they are attacking her makes me think they hate her because she's a woman B Calm Apr 2016 #176

Jimmy Savile gave a lot of money to charity too. Bad Dog Apr 2016 #179