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Humanist_Activist

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39. The problem is the studies fail to provide a mechanism of action...
Fri Mar 18, 2016, 05:05 PM
Mar 2016

because the people leading the study aren't biologists, so don't know what they are talking about.

Is glyphosate genotoxic? If so, how?

Is glyphosate neurotoxic? If so, how?

Demonstrate how this particular molecule can damage genes or brains, cross the blood-brain barrier, or cause whatever, and then, maybe, biologists would be interested. In addition, the correlations found are disputed themselves, and may be an example of cognitive bias.

Wait, wait, wait. wait... Act_of_Reparation Mar 2016 #1
Yup, you are right. It's toxic crap, either herbicides or pesticides AxionExcel Mar 2016 #2
It is pretty awful stuff. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2016 #8
Not to mention its not related to Roundup, which hasn't been... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #18
Computer scientists are in a good position to do epidemiological studies. n/t pnwmom Mar 2016 #35
No, no they are not, they would be great at finding patterns that fit their... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #36
And physician researchers without a strong statistical and computer background pnwmom Mar 2016 #37
The problem is the studies fail to provide a mechanism of action... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #39
Without computer scientists and epidemiologists, pnwmom Mar 2016 #41
So you link to Seralini, who has already been caught using poor statistical analysis in his papers.. Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #43
He is considered anti-GMO because of his research. But he wasn't involved pnwmom Mar 2016 #44
That's simply not true, he's been outspoken about being Anti-GMO since at least 1997... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #48
Nonsense Major Nikon Mar 2016 #54
Seralini: A True Industry Shill. HuckleB Mar 2016 #45
Next we'll hear from the shill known as Benbrook. HuckleB Mar 2016 #46
Most consumers aren't asking for all that; they simply want labeling. closeupready Mar 2016 #58
They've been conned by bad corporate propaganda. HuckleB Mar 2016 #59
Well, at that point, they'll decide labels don't matter and make closeupready Mar 2016 #63
But the labels are useless at doing the thing I would assume they would want it to do... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #60
Risks? No. Pork genes in tomato products? Yes. closeupready Mar 2016 #64
See, that's the thing, saying things like "Pork genes in tomato products" just makes you sound... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #66
I have no time for you, sorry. You've shown closeupready Mar 2016 #67
You literally proclaim you have a closed mind, yet I'm the one in the echo chamber? Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #72
You aren't worth the hide. You really aren't. But keep trying. closeupready Mar 2016 #75
Not sure why you keep saying that. Not even sure why you think this warrents... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #77
"Most consumers" don't even know what GMO is Major Nikon Mar 2016 #62
Yeah, that's likely correct. So what? closeupready Mar 2016 #68
So a label is meaningless on a whole different level. HuckleB Mar 2016 #74
Sociopathy is the biggest threat to the human race AZ Progressive Mar 2016 #3
Unfortunately I think, untreated, it has now devolved into psychopathy. Kip Humphrey Mar 2016 #4
Sociopathy and Psychopathy are different terms for the same thing. Act_of_Reparation Mar 2016 #5
Read this before sputtering nonsense pbmus Mar 2016 #10
! AxionExcel Mar 2016 #81
children are not smaller adults KT2000 Mar 2016 #6
Yep, it's criminal all right, chapdrum Mar 2016 #23
good point - when our KT2000 Mar 2016 #31
+1 AxionExcel Mar 2016 #82
It's not even GMO that's the thing people don't get. Hey, even the list in the OP focuses on GMO Person 2713 Mar 2016 #7
Big money in this though I would imagine. jalan48 Mar 2016 #9
Big money is in this, but not what you think. Archae Mar 2016 #11
Who is this "their" in the organic industry? You mean the small farmers? jalan48 Mar 2016 #17
Go to your local supermarket. Archae Mar 2016 #21
Many mothers glad they can get milk without synthetic chemical crud in it AxionExcel Mar 2016 #25
Milk producers can use antibiotics same way other dairy farmers do. Archae Mar 2016 #27
Pro-tip: Using fallacies to make false allegations of fallacies is the epitome of "stupid" Major Nikon Mar 2016 #56
There aren't many "small farmers" left, most food production is industrialized... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #24
oh right - KT2000 Mar 2016 #34
I need to read the article, but I thought that blondie58 Mar 2016 #12
Even if the lecture was free... Archae Mar 2016 #28
Your endlessly repeated Drumphian Logic is perfect. First, throw ad hominem poo AxionExcel Mar 2016 #38
Using ad hominem to finger wag about ad hominem Major Nikon Mar 2016 #42
Glyphosate is not just on GMO products. Wheat is a big one people overlook Person 2713 Mar 2016 #40
Thanx for reminding me that I need to buy some more round up Botany Mar 2016 #13
because plant poison should only kill plants. WEEEEEeeeeeee. better living thru chemistry! NOT! pansypoo53219 Mar 2016 #14
The Certified organic industry uses herbicides, many that are far more toxic than... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #16
that it. no more food then. pansypoo53219 Mar 2016 #19
Here's something for you to think about then, many plants produce... Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #22
What herbicides are those? avaistheone1 Mar 2016 #26
Here's the big list from the government. Humanist_Activist Mar 2016 #30
So their urine would be illegal as drinking water? knightmaar Mar 2016 #15
Corporate rights uber alles chapdrum Mar 2016 #20
Probably the same percentage of Americans, too. nt valerief Mar 2016 #29
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!FUCKING MONSANTO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #32
How is someone zero years old? Rex Mar 2016 #33
More shit research Major Nikon Mar 2016 #47
So this is two-years-old, but being promoted as if it's new and alarming information? HuckleB Mar 2016 #49
Don't worry, it's still in the news cycle over at NaturalNews®, Mercola, et al Major Nikon Mar 2016 #50
Nope. You are wrong again, as usual. It's being promoted as important information. AxionExcel Mar 2016 #51
So you got caught promoting something old, and unreliable, and you double down? HuckleB Mar 2016 #53
Sure, promoted by NaturalNews®, Mercola, Moms Across America, et al Major Nikon Mar 2016 #55
It's not as if High Quality Junk Science comes out every day Major Nikon Mar 2016 #61
That does not appear to be it, the 'study' described in the OP really doesn't petronius Mar 2016 #69
So where is the "study" in the OP published? HuckleB Mar 2016 #70
As I said, I have no idea where it is (if it's available at all)... petronius Mar 2016 #71
So it may be completely imaginary? HuckleB Mar 2016 #73
Could be. Whatever it is, I can't find it... petronius Mar 2016 #76
The article in the OP is pretty shitty Major Nikon Mar 2016 #78
I agree: the research(er) is unreliable, the study you linked is gibberish, and the petronius Mar 2016 #80
64 other countries in the world have no problem with informing their citizens nationalize the fed Mar 2016 #52
That Senate bill died, thankfully. Ilsa Mar 2016 #57
I'm pro GMO bhikkhu Mar 2016 #65
Always surprising to see how many ENTITIES support toxic glorp in the human body - passionately AxionExcel Mar 2016 #79
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