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Thu Mar 17, 2016, 02:57 AM

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Dear Skinner, when may we expect Manny Goldstein back? [View all]	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	OP
K&R.	JDPriestly	Mar 2016	#1
Or at least Third Way Manny	jberryhill	Mar 2016	#2
No. He wasn't out because of 5 hides. He was PPR'd.	SunSeeker	Mar 2016	#3
Bullshit. nt.	polly7	Mar 2016	#4
Ditto the bullshit.	SoapBox	Mar 2016	#5
3x	Depaysement	Mar 2016	#13
+10,000 nt	Live and Learn	Mar 2016	#56
Bull.	840high	Mar 2016	#8
.	MohRokTah	Mar 2016	#14
The same could be argued about more than a few who have returned from purgatory.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#16
Those MIRT members that planned off-site to get members hidden here should have been PPR'd	polly7	Mar 2016	#28
And of course requests to do so were met with the sound of crickets.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#31
Yes.	polly7	Mar 2016	#33
"I'd love to turn Bonobo or cali into the quivering little chickenshits they are."	Scootaloo	Mar 2016	#32
I have to admit, I have complete contempt for those people and always will after seeing their	polly7	Mar 2016	#35
I have to ask:	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#36
Well, I don't imagine the alert-stalking is going to do much, if so	Scootaloo	Mar 2016	#52
And this one .......	polly7	Mar 2016	#63
Wow.	progressoid	Mar 2016	#65
yikes, I need each and evveryone of these people on my ignore list.	Cobalt Violet	Mar 2016	#129
As far as I know, Skinner has never banned anyone for what they said off site.	Amimnoch	Mar 2016	#166
No, folks allowed back under the new rules were alert-stalked into time outs. Mannie was banned.	SunSeeker	Mar 2016	#48
He was banned for	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#50
That is not why he was banned.	SunSeeker	Mar 2016	#71
Well that is what is says on his transparency page.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#93
Actually that is why he was banned.	Amimnoch	Mar 2016	#167
No mostly they were jerks who earned their hidden posts by being jerks.	Scootaloo	Mar 2016	#67
The admins have obviously noticed a partisan bent to the hides.	joshcryer	Mar 2016	#91
I know that Manny was banned.	JDPriestly	Mar 2016	#125
^^^ What SunSeeker Said ^^^	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2016	#92
Sunseeker has been corrected on what (s)he said.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#96
And so have you. n/t	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2016	#100
No, all I have seen are assertions, not arguments.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#105
I thorougly love Manny's sense of humor.	JDPriestly	Mar 2016	#123
And hence the question begs to be asked: when will he be invited back?	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#132
Where is kelliekat? Alert-stalked away also. nt	Jitter65	Mar 2016	#154
OOPS	Omaha Steve	Mar 2016	#6
Bring Manny back	NJCher	Mar 2016	#7
posted without comment or reply.	revmclaren	Mar 2016	#9
It speaks of overreaction:	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#25
Very true	Duckhunter935	Mar 2016	#155
You must have been lurking for the 2008 PUMA movement	pintobean	Mar 2016	#163
it certainly says a lot about the admins	redruddyred	Mar 2016	#39
No. He wasn't suspended because of hides. He was banned,	pnwmom	Mar 2016	#10
No shit he was banned. NO, he didn't deserve it, as much as he threatened the	polly7	Mar 2016	#11
He was in very clear violation of the terms of membership.	pnwmom	Mar 2016	#15
Nah, he wasn't.	polly7	Mar 2016	#20
If it's so obvious, then why are you disputing their decision? nt	pnwmom	Mar 2016	#21
Because I think it was 'wrong', why do you think?? nt.	polly7	Mar 2016	#23
despite this the rule is bizarre	redruddyred	Mar 2016	#62
No he was not, quote where he was then	Duckhunter935	Mar 2016	#156
He was PPRed. There's no coming back unless he personally pleas his case with Skinner.	MohRokTah	Mar 2016	#12
So did Trumad, but he is back for an encore.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#17
To the best of my knowledge, Trumad was never PPRed.	MohRokTah	Mar 2016	#18
Well, he was a Clinton supporter, so I guess a PPR was too much to ask even then.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#19
Oh brother!	MohRokTah	Mar 2016	#24
I didn't realize he was gone. I don't keep score.	JDPriestly	Mar 2016	#136
Trumad is back???????	JDPriestly	Mar 2016	#131
So did CajunBLazer, by posting verbatim Jew-hate from a neo-nazi site	Scootaloo	Mar 2016	#26
Good point,	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#29
Was that poster PPRed?	MohRokTah	Mar 2016	#30
No, they were not, and that's kind of the point I'm making	Scootaloo	Mar 2016	#40
Then you have no point to make.	MohRokTah	Mar 2016	#61
Arbitrary rules that are oft allowed to be defied on personal bias is no way to run a kingdom	Scootaloo	Mar 2016	#86
You are free to leave if you don't like it.	MohRokTah	Mar 2016	#99
I'd prefer a community with stable, predictable standards of conduct from all sides	Scootaloo	Mar 2016	#109
I wonder whether your analysis is correct.	JDPriestly	Mar 2016	#128
We would certainly welcome it.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#134
Not All Bernie Supporters	ProfessorGAC	Mar 2016	#168
or L0oniz. or NYC_SKP	Scootaloo	Mar 2016	#22
Yes, they too, of course. Manny was just the first name that came to my mind.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#27
+10,000 nt	Live and Learn	Mar 2016	#55
+1	MissDeeds	Mar 2016	#118
Also. I would like to have them back.	JDPriestly	Mar 2016	#138
Wait, NYC_SKP has been nuked? n/t	Turborama	Mar 2016	#153
He was banned, not suspended.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#34
Which in itself speaks of a double standard.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#37
He was banned for a cause. Bernie or bust type stuff.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#41
Which during PRIMARIES is not disallowed. By the way:	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#44
Skinner posted a clarification	bravenak	Mar 2016	#49
When "arbitrary" now means "biased"	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#53
This place is status quo	bravenak	Mar 2016	#68
Anything that favors your preferred candidate, eh?	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#72
I am not emotionally tied to a candidate.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#76
Nope. nt	Live and Learn	Mar 2016	#66
It is on his profile.nt	bravenak	Mar 2016	#70
See post # 57 please.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#74
Here	bravenak	Mar 2016	#75
Do you even read before replying?	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#83
Not my call.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#88
But the primaries aren't over yet!	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#98
I know.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#104
OK, great. Seems a reasonable position. Would you then agree	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#107
Okay.	bravenak	Mar 2016	#113
I remember exactly what was posted. It was a bad ban.	Live and Learn	Mar 2016	#81
Do you mean to ask if I would have banned him?	bravenak	Mar 2016	#85
Not at all what I meant. But I do agree. nt	Live and Learn	Mar 2016	#144
No. He was in violation of a clear standard. Read the terms of membership.	pnwmom	Mar 2016	#45
^^^THIS^^^	SunSeeker	Mar 2016	#54
Ah, NO! Please see post # 57	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#60
The standard is clear. The violation was not:	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#57
You missed this part:	pnwmom	Mar 2016	#79
At the time, it was (and still is) uncertain Clinton would be that candidate/ nominee	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#87
It is only permitted if the poster leaves the door open about changing his mind.	pnwmom	Mar 2016	#150
You Better Believe It!	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2016	#97
We don't believe it, because there is nothing to back up that claim.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#101
You know, you could take it up with Skinner in ATA. That's what it's for. I get that you're trying	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2016	#106
Yes, this is applying public pressure. Well spotted.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#108
Good luck with that!	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2016	#111
skinner appears to have trashed ATA	Scootaloo	Mar 2016	#114
Oooh, you just made me spray tea. (LOL)	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#115
Sadly, time to call it a night	Scootaloo	Mar 2016	#119
I'm in a different time-zone, so allow me to keep up the good fight.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#122
NSS!! nt.	polly7	Mar 2016	#38
What?	bravenak	Mar 2016	#42
Lol! +1	BeanMusical	Mar 2016	#82
It certainly seems that some TOS violators are arbitrarily ppr'd while others	bbgrunt	Mar 2016	#43
I have decided and it speaks of double standards.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#47
The establishment at their finest--much like DWS.	bbgrunt	Mar 2016	#58
The "establishment."	pnwmom	Mar 2016	#80
the above statement was brought to you by BIAS -	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#89
But if we set up websites of our own, it won't be any fun.	JDPriestly	Mar 2016	#139
This is a website promoting the Democratic party owned by an individual. It is not a Democracy.n/t	pnwmom	Mar 2016	#149
You are free to spend your time elsewhere if it bothers you so much. eom	MohRokTah	Mar 2016	#69
So are you, there's always the cave, right? nt.	polly7	Mar 2016	#77
is that where Moh lives after earning six or seven hides?	Scootaloo	Mar 2016	#90
Probably. I'd guess mostly camped out in the hidden Grumble section. nt.	polly7	Mar 2016	#94
Yeah, I mention these things because I'd rather be somewhere else.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#78
Manny was milder than the Rude Pundit	LiberalLovinLug	Mar 2016	#46
People that don't get satire must have it rough in the real world.	polly7	Mar 2016	#51
You don't get it.	delrem	Mar 2016	#59
F*CK David Brock, then.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#64
shrug. It's reality, Betty. Reality.	delrem	Mar 2016	#84
K&R nt	Live and Learn	Mar 2016	#73
Heaven forfend....Dieu nous en garde !	Surya Gayatri	Mar 2016	#95
It would be fair and even-handed.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#103
He's been banned (thankfully), not suspended. Different rules.	Surya Gayatri	Mar 2016	#110
Banned arbitrarily. Different standards too, perhaps?	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#117
Skinner IS the ultimate arbiter around here...thank god.	Surya Gayatri	Mar 2016	#120
Ultimate, but even he has imperfections.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#124
There was nothing "arbitrary" about that decision.	NanceGreggs	Mar 2016	#126
Yes, it's clear that your side wants a monopoly on reprieves.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#145
Don't like the rules? Change forums! Arbitrary after 10~ years of disruption?	Surya Gayatri	Mar 2016	#127
So you want us to give you Hell and a cold treatment too?	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#147
THE MANNY HATERS CAN FUCK THEMSELVES	Skittles	Mar 2016	#102
Manny is gentle, kind, witty, ironic, imaginative, and enriched DU immeasurably.	senz	Mar 2016	#112
Senz, the kindness of your every word is wonderful.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#116
Illegitimi non carborundum	senz	Mar 2016	#121
Haha. You appeal to the latinist in me now:	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#130
Wow, I'm impressed.	senz	Mar 2016	#140
Actually, I have Horace's collected works on the bookshelf: one very think volume.	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#142
What psycho-babble codswhallop...Bwaahaaaaaa!	Surya Gayatri	Mar 2016	#143
LOL! Well, I tried	senz	Mar 2016	#146
+100000000000000	JDPriestly	Mar 2016	#148
Jesus Christ, get a room already!	randome	Mar 2016	#159
He was a troll - banned for TOS violation. n/t	Lil Missy	Mar 2016	#133
Let me repeat once more: the rule is clear, the violation was NOT at all clear:	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#135
It clearly helps Republicans. Get over it.	Lil Missy	Mar 2016	#137
Here is something for you to get over:	Betty Karlson	Mar 2016	#141
LOL...	SidDithers	Mar 2016	#151
Manny had an aversion to the likely...	Mike Nelson	Mar 2016	#152
Who says he wants back in here?	LiberalElite	Mar 2016	#157
God, the hero worship here is embarrassing sometimes.	randome	Mar 2016	#158
Manny is a racist. He was rightfully banned for his racist, and otherwise trolling. nt	msanthrope	Mar 2016	#160
That's not what he was banned for.	Amimnoch	Mar 2016	#165
Black posters were on the receiving end of that 'advocacy.' Targeted, alert stalked, etc. You	msanthrope	Mar 2016	#169
No argument at all there, and Bravenak is one of my most favorite people on this board!	Amimnoch	Mar 2016	#170
And people want his racist ass back.....unbelievable. nt	msanthrope	Mar 2016	#171
In order to expect that you'd have to think the rule changes were about fairness and inclusivity	aikoaiko	Mar 2016	#161
His ban was for something other than violating the "rules" covered in yesterday's OP by Skinner.	George II	Mar 2016	#162
Reasons as stated by Skinner.	Amimnoch	Mar 2016	#164
Where did Skinner say he's allowing banned members back?	sufrommich	Mar 2016	#172
Locking	In_The_Wind	Mar 2016	#173

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