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Blue_Adept

(6,437 posts)
Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:41 AM Mar 2016

"Hitler Grandma" Picture Gets Context [View all]

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We've all seen the pic at this point, but I really didn't want to really get into it until I had some context. The gent in the picture hsa provided that context now via his FB post:

So here's my story about this picture, and I promise you it's the god honest truth :

my friend Sean Kavanagh and I are walking out of the UIC Pavilion filled with some of the most palpable joy I've ever experienced. We did it. We fought for the truth and for a moment, a brief day, WON.

As we are leaving Trump protestors form small sections, small channels where Trump supporters can pass through to exit (a kindness which isn't quite afforded in the inverse when ya know, people get sucker punched being forced out of Trump rallies).

As people are walking out we're saying things like "Bye racists", "You lost. Please just go home now." bc many are leaving with shoves and shoulder checks, begrudgingly, but most with pent up fury.

The woman pictured with me and what looks to be her husband we're stragglers in the pack, and started responding to people's jeers. Some guy ripped a sign out of the man's hands and another man leapt out of nowhere, encouraging everyone around to respect them and let them leave (again, sometimes America is amazing).

This woman is a human being and although I don't share her views, I start yelling "I will respect my elders. Please. Leave." and a few other great folks and I start to clear the path. I walk right up to her and say "Ma'am we have listened to you. We understand this is all a little wild but we have cleared a path for you to leave *my right hand was constantly swinging in motion, showing her the path out we made for her, as shown in the photo*"

She goes, and I quote "Go? Back in my day, you know what we did-"

Bam. Hail's Hitler.

I go "Ma'am you are endagering your life doing this. LEAVE. TAKE YOUR HUSBAND AND LEAVE." (I mean, anyone who knows me knows I get loud, so you know, sorry about that.)

And she won't. She won't budge. A young woman comes up to me and says "She wants this. Leave her be." looks to her and goes "God bless you. I hope you make it home safe." and I walk away from her astounded.

I have never experienced anything like tonight. To see America rise up for a man who hates so much of it, then for him to get checked so wonderfully by a city I love so much, and then for his followers to scream and cackle to the bitter end.

So many fights were stopped. So many people protected others instead of encouraging mayhem. Don't believe the hype : protestors only stoked a fire in these people that was born long before they had Trump to personify it.

Hate is real my friends. Vicious, hurt you if you aren't watching, worse if they can get away with it indignance was in so many eyes there.

I say that bc know this : hope is real too. Hope that when we stand up against hate from time to time, and collectively, we can defeat it. Or at least silence that beast, for one damn night.

We are at a point in America where those people, Trump supporters, make me sad. But the ones who make me angry? The incredibly intelligent, brightest minds I know, who sit on their hands and do nothing, don't vote, don't volunteer, and pretend as though their knowledge abdicates them from action.

The world is broken, I learned that best from Christianity. But I don't believe even one thing on this Earth is beyond repair, and I learned that from Christianity too.

You don't have to share my belief in Christianity, but I am asking you to stand up against hate. Or this woman's slanted arm never bears a greater weight than her own ignorance. She may never get the shot to understand love, living in the world where that symbol actually rules again.

Don't let that happen. Do something. Please, for the sake of everyone, do something.
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Thanks for posting! Laf.La.Dem. Mar 2016 #1
K&R chalky Mar 2016 #2
Great post. N/T SCantiGOP Mar 2016 #3
k&r (nt) noamnety Mar 2016 #4
Bookmarking. Excellent. underpants Mar 2016 #5
I hate taking pictures out of context and attributing things to it Blue_Adept Mar 2016 #6
Good to have an account directly from... 3catwoman3 Mar 2016 #7
Yup. so often we don't and make some wildly crazy assumptions. Blue_Adept Mar 2016 #8
Thanks for the link. James Woods and some other RW nutjobs tweeted a pic of a Bernie supporter vintx Mar 2016 #9
Trump Jr is going on about it being the Sanders woman as well Blue_Adept Mar 2016 #11
My friend took a picture of her in line earlier chade Mar 2016 #45
The Sanders campaign isnt wasting their time pulling shit like that liberalnarb Mar 2016 #46
I'm guessing she sees herself as a hero now, and will make herself public soon... C Moon Mar 2016 #49
Well, many of her closest friends will undoubtedly praise her for this, because tblue37 Mar 2016 #10
"...this woman's life is about to become a living hell." 3catwoman3 Mar 2016 #40
It's not the world that's broken. It's the Republican Party.... Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2016 #12
It's not just drunk, it's staggering around blacked-out and yelling drunken insanity. Dont call me Shirley Mar 2016 #74
Oh hate is real all right mountain grammy Mar 2016 #13
My inlaws were that way too Jenny_92808 Mar 2016 #59
from the deadest, flattest, most seamless expanse of concrete, a sprout can grow MisterP Mar 2016 #14
That can be taken two ways passiveporcupine Mar 2016 #43
It is more than a sobering experience Loki Mar 2016 #15
Thank you for the post DesertRat Mar 2016 #16
Hadn't notice until just now: madamesilverspurs Mar 2016 #17
Sure looks like it. nt awoke_in_2003 Mar 2016 #36
Thanks for the post! denvine Mar 2016 #18
Wow, I was hoping it was a protester making a point but no, it's a holdover flamingdem Mar 2016 #19
yeah I just read ol Trump blamed a Jew for the Chicago mess :( PatrynXX Mar 2016 #20
... calling Bernie his "communist friend". Two lies in one two-word phrase. nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2016 #32
I'm glad they are coming out of the woodwork so we can Ilsa Mar 2016 #21
Thanks for the post, it makes it real Lifelong Protester Mar 2016 #22
Do you think Hitler followed the Quran? ConsiderThis_2016 Mar 2016 #23
Wow, progressoid Mar 2016 #24
K&R! nt Duval Mar 2016 #25
Trump asked for people to interpret this as a Nazi salute with his racism/ Klan love Bestuserever Mar 2016 #26
This is REALLY screwed up (calling unkown people racists as they are walking out). Skwmom Mar 2016 #27
I thought the same thing MuseRider Mar 2016 #54
The Nazi salute is despicable 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #28
She had a lot of choices on how to expresses her disappointment in the cancelled show. Tikki Mar 2016 #31
You are correct. 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #34
So she was affirming her racism. Tikki Mar 2016 #39
Im sorry, I had relatives who died in those camps. There is no "butbutbut" here. Warren DeMontague Mar 2016 #44
you should stop trying to justify the Nazi salute from the republican supporter rockfordfile Mar 2016 #50
I am not trying to justify the salute at all. 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #68
Are you actually equating calling someone racist with actually doing something racist? gollygee Mar 2016 #58
Calling people names is also doing. 21st Century Poet Mar 2016 #69
Calling someone racist is not anywhere the same as actually doing a racist act. gollygee Mar 2016 #75
Random people are being called racist? Jackie Wilson Said Mar 2016 #77
The bigger picture here... OneGrassRoot Mar 2016 #78
Apples and oranges. IsItJustMe Mar 2016 #64
That was actually first known as the Bellamy Salute nichomachus Mar 2016 #29
no... she isn't that old OhioBlue Mar 2016 #37
man, obama's RE-ELECTION REALLY hurt! sweet. pansypoo53219 Mar 2016 #30
She ties her shoes in little nazis... BeatleBoot Mar 2016 #33
Umm just another view SujiwanKenobee Mar 2016 #35
No rockfordfile Mar 2016 #52
Bill Clinton should have never encouraged Trump felix_numinous Mar 2016 #38
Chills here. Thanks so much for this post. Hekate Mar 2016 #41
So proud of these young people and Chicago Sienna86 Mar 2016 #42
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2016 #47
Down at the VFW you'll encounter elders IronLionZion Mar 2016 #48
Nazi-saluting Trump supporter says she's not a Nazi steve2470 Mar 2016 #51
She was born in 1946 West Berlin powergirl Mar 2016 #56
powergirl Diclotican Mar 2016 #57
The face of today's GOP forest444 Mar 2016 #53
As we speak Trump is doing a rally in MO PatrickforO Mar 2016 #55
Amen, Brother. raging moderate Mar 2016 #60
"My grandson is this tall." tclambert Mar 2016 #61
They respond ghostsinthemachine Mar 2016 #62
The comment section is the best nadinbrzezinski Mar 2016 #63
Yeah...ummm...okay... but only because it isn't ScreamingMeemie Mar 2016 #76
Great post. K&R!! Nt AgadorSparticus Mar 2016 #65
yep, somehow looks familiar 0rganism Mar 2016 #66
so the context is.....she is a Hitler Grandma Skittles Mar 2016 #67
Bill Corbett on Twitter nxylas Mar 2016 #70
Glad to see this didn't drop like a stone Blue_Adept Mar 2016 #71
There is an extremely important message here. A large number of Americans are sick of the corrupt rhett o rick Mar 2016 #72
+1000,000,000 lark Mar 2016 #73
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