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Sat Jan 30, 2016, 09:50 AM

11. That's the Clinton spin but as usual, not the truth

State Department Transcript of State Department spokesman Kirby yesterday:
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2016/01/251855.htm
"As to whether they were classified at the time they were sent, the State Department, in the FOIA process, is focusing on whether they need to be classified today. Questions about classification at the time they were sent are being and will be handled separately by the State Department."


The Inspector Generals had a bit of a time with the state department on this. In June-July 2015, the Inspector General of the Intelligence Community reported:
https://oig.state.gov/system/files/23_july_2015_cn_summary_of_ic_ig_support_to_state_department_ig.pdf
"State personnel continue to deny the classified character of the released information despite a definitive determination from the IC Interagency FOIA process)"


The old Clinton game of "in the face of the troubling truth, deny, deny, and then deny some more" has operated like a broken record since they came to Washington but lost some it's pizzazz with a stained blue dress.

The State Department is waking up to their errors in handling this material and how they've (intentionally?) been misinforming the American public. This transcript today shows Kirby is starting to catch on and back peddled on what was classified at the time of transmission - as is the accurate case because the state department has already been found by the Inspector General as being in denial after a formal determination has been made.

But here's the thing, aside from the 22 top secret emails (which now some are trying to spin "oh but they just got upgraded to top secret" as if they wouldn't have has any secret or confidential classification before). Yesterday, the State Department declined to release to the FOIA claim 18 emails between the past Secretary of State (Hillary) and with the President of the United States. And she did not inform the president their communications were completely unsecure. Think about that for a moment. No, think about for a second longer.

The lame defense of "well it depends what was said in those emails" is beyond absurd. Ignoring what the president might write to her during a sleepless night at 4am in an email, one example: the transmission of those emails very probably contains some valid IP addresses or transmission information that would help spies trying to tap into the White House to find a data pipe to attack. It's indefensible conduct. No acceptable excuse.

So stop the BS spin. The game is over. Whether anyone got anything or not or whether any information that was sent was classified or not (which I argue that communications with the president and the Secretary of State are automatically classified as confidential), she's guilty of compromising the security of the Office of the President of the United states and the Secretary of State of the United States - for starters - ignoring the other top secret stuff and the 1,300 other classified items found in her emails - which the FBI and others are trying to chase down.

Once again, history is repeating itself. A Clinton does something wrong. Rather than fess up and be part of the solution, it's "deny, deny, deny", triggering massive investigations, massive media attention circus, etc - when those FBI agents should be going after terrorists and the media should be focusing some of their attention on Bernie to get closer to fair balance and solving some of these issues he's talking about.

I'm sick of this crap from the Clintons and you should be too. They need to head out to their pasture of speaking fees - where bilking money out of Wall Street wallets actually might do us some good for a change.

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