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dmallind

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51. Varied - got higher as I got more stuff obviously

Fri Jun 1, 2012, 12:24 PM

Jun 2012

I've moved myself in a minivan. I've paid people thousands to move me. Depends how much you have and how much effort you're willing to put into it yourself or how much you can afford to pay others to do the work.

How much does it cost in lost income to not have a job? Varies too obviously but I bet it's almost always a shitload more than even my most expensive white-glove interstate move.

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Remember this, when you hear someone say "they should just move to where the work is": [View all] Ken Burch May 2012 OP

If you don't have a job... YellowRubberDuckie May 2012 #1

+1. $2000+ for moving truck cross country drive. napoleon_in_rags May 2012 #5

I barely have $50 to my name until midnight. YellowRubberDuckie May 2012 #8

+1 uponit7771 Jun 2012 #45

Moving to where the jobs were didnt work out so well for the Joads... HooptieWagon May 2012 #2

It worked out great for the folks who bought the Joad family's property and belongings Ken Burch Jun 2012 #12

the Joads (and the real people whom they were based) were sharecroppers cojoel Jun 2012 #50

It worked out fine for my grandparents back in the 40's bhikkhu Jun 2012 #34

UH...that was during World War II. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #36

So what should such a person do? badtoworse May 2012 #3

Keep moving every 2-3 years. Zalatix May 2012 #10

You can still use it. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #13

The point isn't what a single person should do. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #16

I disagree. I moved to where the jobs are years ago. I'm still here. Honeycombe8 May 2012 #4

And then the jobs leave your town and you have to go do it again. And again. And Again. Zalatix May 2012 #7

You move to a big city taught_me_patience Jun 2012 #15

At least until everyone else moves there Zalatix Jun 2012 #17

More people = bigger economy taught_me_patience Jun 2012 #20

Gotcha. So that's why there's now enough jobs for everyone in the big cities. Zalatix Jun 2012 #21

You just don't want to admit it when you're wrong. You don't move just anywhere. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #98

I'm not wrong. The math backs me up. Zalatix Jun 2012 #110

Not only are their 4 people fighting for each job Ken Burch Jun 2012 #124

"You can always start a small business too and make money that way"? Ken Burch Jun 2012 #61

Yes people start small businesses every day and make money taught_me_patience Jun 2012 #65

The vast majority of those who start small businesses Ken Burch Jun 2012 #72

Gotta Love Some Of The Shit On DU Ken HangOnKids Jun 2012 #76

Well, it could be that "patience" is right Ken Burch Jun 2012 #79

Damnit Ken That Was My Plan! HangOnKids Jun 2012 #81

You can still make it work Ken Burch Jun 2012 #84

Well it takes planning, hard work, dedication, and guts taught_me_patience Jun 2012 #83

And a lot of people who DO plan, work hard, are dedicated, and display guts Ken Burch Jun 2012 #85

It's a matter of statistics. If you are a mechanical engineer, Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #99

You just don't want to admit it when you're wrong. Zalatix Jun 2012 #112

Why do you resent people who do something proactive to improve their chances for their future? Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #118

Because in a resource shortage, there is a high chance that you're just WASTING energy Zalatix Jun 2012 #119

Again, this thread isn't about attacking individuals who have moved to find work Ken Burch Jun 2012 #122

I think if you read what I wrote taught_me_patience Jun 2012 #106

You didn't say "it was difficult but not impossible", or anything remotely like that. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #108

Sorry Dude Your Know It All Condescension HangOnKids Jun 2012 #91

That depends on your definition of success. I'm not rich, but I'm successful, Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author HangOnKids Jun 2012 #107

Me, too! Put me on ignore! Zalatix Jun 2012 #113

Your second paragraph makes it sound Ken Burch Jun 2012 #109

Lots of people start businesses here in Dallas. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #102

Lots of people start businesses here in Dallas. But you don't mention the failure rate. Zalatix Jun 2012 #120

Most new businesses fail everywhere. Everyone knows that. It's in the realm of common knowleldge. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #134

Or you can go out of business within two years KamaAina Jun 2012 #86

Not counting the drug dealers, of course. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #90

And, of course, the local Chamber of Commerce in those years(the Depression) Ken Burch Jun 2012 #29

Man, is that billboard iconic or what? Eerily coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #74

well yeah...if you count selling your body as a job. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #28

Always jobs available in "The BIG City"? bvar22 Jun 2012 #43

I'm on my 8th state. All but one for jobs. I'm perfectly happy dmallind Jun 2012 #47

How much did it cost to move each time? Zalatix Jun 2012 #49

Varied - got higher as I got more stuff obviously dmallind Jun 2012 #51

Well, if you're poor enough you can just abandon everything and walk, I suppose. Zalatix Jun 2012 #52

There was a very famous and very nasty British politician who expressed that vile attitude thusly: Ken Burch Jun 2012 #77

You'd be less poor if you took that job in another city though. dmallind Jun 2012 #104

Yes, if you abandoned your belongings, your family and kids, and packed up and moved Zalatix Jun 2012 #132

And if people WANT to move for work, that's fine. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #63

Sorry - nobody has the right to a job of their choice in a place of their choice dmallind Jun 2012 #103

Worth working to establish those rights, though, don't you think? Ken Burch Jun 2012 #111

You didn't read the post. I said I moved to a big city with a diverse economy. Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #96

Pretty funny Art_from_Ark May 2012 #11

Dionne Warwick nailed it Ken Burch Jun 2012 #88

In 1968, gas was as cheap as 20 cents/gallon Art_from_Ark Jun 2012 #115

True...that was the pre-OPEC era. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #116

You do realize that you were lucky, though...don't you? Ken Burch Jun 2012 #14

If I caught a break then EVERYONE will catch a break... just spend $2000 and move! Zalatix Jun 2012 #23

I was responding to Honeycomb8's post, not yours. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #25

Oh no, I wasn't attacking your post. I was making fun of the argument you were responding to. Zalatix Jun 2012 #27

OK...glad we got that cleared up. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #30

Somebody needs to Photoshop an image of "The Moving Fairy" Ken Burch Jun 2012 #125

The REAL real answer, Ken, is to make the necessities of life Mairead Jun 2012 #42

Interesting thought. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #58

"you do need to find some way" Mairead Jun 2012 #67

My concern is to avoid the creation of a "nomenklatura" bureaucratic class Ken Burch Jun 2012 #69

Bravo! If we had politicians of vision, they would speak of organizing coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #75

Create what jobs where? dmallind Jun 2012 #48

Well, with design work, you CAN, in fact, do that anywhere Ken Burch Jun 2012 #59

How is that degree of planning and control possible? hack89 Jun 2012 #126

It can be done through the use of the Internet and email. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #127

How to you force people to conform? hack89 Jun 2012 #128

What the status quo does is about "forc(ing) people to conform" Ken Burch Jun 2012 #129

That doesn't work for manufacturing hack89 Jun 2012 #130

Completely agree taught_me_patience Jun 2012 #19

And I'm glad you were able to, but that wasn't my point Ken Burch Jun 2012 #26

Of course.. sendero Jun 2012 #41

Your argument about how something that works for you should be something lunatica Jun 2012 #82

I think "Honeycomb8"s posts reflect something that's being intentionally spread in this country Ken Burch Jun 2012 #92

What if I don't want to move to the Philippines? ( n/t ) Make7 May 2012 #6

What if you can't? Zalatix May 2012 #9

And what if the Filipinos don't want to move HERE? Ken Burch Jun 2012 #18

Why would they want to, now? All the jobs are coming to them. Zalatix Jun 2012 #22

It may look like the jobs are coming to them Ken Burch Jun 2012 #31

An excellent idea Zalatix Jun 2012 #33

Yep, I've seen it. freshwest Jun 2012 #24

Infuriating but true GObamaGO Jun 2012 #32

listening to stories from older generations Sea-Dog Jun 2012 #35

For a short period of time in one's life, yes. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #38

Fundamentally shifting the culture has been on the agenda for a long time. K&R n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #37

True flobee1 Jun 2012 #39

Follow in the footsteps of Tom Joad. Great idea, ain't it? Kablooie Jun 2012 #40

Maybe we can form nomadic tribes. Quantess Jun 2012 #44

^^^ Thread killer. Zalatix Jun 2012 #53

I thought "thread killer" meant that the thread died after the post..? Quantess Jun 2012 #55

Naw, I mean thread killer as in you issued what SHOULD be the closing statement. Zalatix Jun 2012 #94

This message was self-deleted by its author Quantess Jun 2012 #95

I would be happy to move to a town where the work is. GoCubsGo Jun 2012 #46

Well put Ken Burch Jun 2012 #62

If I recall correctly, a vice president once said people should just sell stuff on eBay... Shampoobra Jun 2012 #54

I know, that was colossally dumb thing of him to say. Quantess Jun 2012 #56

Or thieves who steal bins of defective electonics from factories Shampoobra Jun 2012 #66

My daughter just took a job 2000+ miles away. Even doing ALL of the moving herself, it cost @ $5k riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #57

It's about using repeated forced relocation to turn the majority into an underclass Ken Burch Jun 2012 #60

Guess nobody who praises the idea of "just get off your fat ass and move to where the jobs are" sad sally Jun 2012 #64

It's an idea praised mainly by those Ken Burch Jun 2012 #70

If you want work you'll abandon your kids, pets and parents. Do what ya gotta do! The American way! Zalatix Jun 2012 #114

It depends jeff47 Jun 2012 #68

Again...the point of this thread wasn't to say "it's wrong to leave your hometown". Ken Burch Jun 2012 #71

As the immortal Buddy Holly sang: coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #73

That's Clarence "Frogman" Henry's song. MrSlayer Jun 2012 #93

You're right. Time to re-boot the old noggin - n/t coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #97

This discussion also makes me think of one of the saddest country songs of all time: Ken Burch Jun 2012 #131

Keep in mind that some folks are dependent on family nearby Sabriel Jun 2012 #78

Those who demand "mobility" would argue that this means Ken Burch Jun 2012 #80

And they're supposed to do what, exactly, with their house? KamaAina Jun 2012 #87

Assuming they even had a house. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #89

Once I graduate from college I hope to begin business in my home region. AJTheMan Jun 2012 #101

And I'm not saying it's wrong that you're willing to do that. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #121

k&r . . . .n/t annabanana Jun 2012 #105

Relocating is too massively expensive and inconvenient for it to be BlueIris Jun 2012 #117

Service economy meets just in time manufacturing. nt rrneck Jun 2012 #123

Ah, yes.. taking us back to the good old days... opiate69 Jun 2012 #133

Hurray for anyone who does what it takes to better their situation,whether moving, getting education Honeycombe8 Jun 2012 #135

You know perfectly well I wasn't ridiculing people for relocating. Ken Burch Jun 2012 #141

Kick for an important issue. n/t area51 Jun 2012 #136

That actually happened in the Great Depression. Whole families living in their cars and following jwirr Jun 2012 #137

I intend to continue renting for the foreseeable future 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #138

Should the Irish have just stayed home? One_Life_To_Give Jun 2012 #139

And once again, I wasn't attacking people FOR relocating Ken Burch Jun 2012 #140